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BishiBenj
26-04-2007, 03:13 PM
Hey Guys,

Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how to get more oomph out of an 01 TJ VR-X, without killing me insurance wise. Whats, wheres and how much's would be muchly appreciated thanks dudez/dudettez

Benj

LeGiOnAiR
26-04-2007, 03:20 PM
Well...not too sure on a VR-X, they might have some of this covered.

Usually for basic mods, exhaust system (a full one, extractors ect), cams (which a VR-X has), a Cold Air Intake (not a huge deal) Panel/Pod Filter (not a big deal either).

One of the best things you can do is handling mods. A VR-X already has decent power...give it some handling mods and you'll be laughing. Its one thing to have speed, its another to be able to use in when cornering.

BishiBenj
26-04-2007, 03:27 PM
One of the best things you can do is handling mods. A VR-X already has decent power...give it some handling mods and you'll be laughing. Its one thing to have speed, its another to be able to use in when cornering.

Such As...?

likeashot
26-04-2007, 03:33 PM
Such As...?

Strut brace!!!!!:D
Lower and new shocks!!!!!

BishiBenj
26-04-2007, 03:38 PM
ok i no im bein a pest here, but where can i get these in perth, what brands am i looking for/avoiding and how much approximately will it cost?

Ta

Benj

likeashot
26-04-2007, 03:41 PM
I got my strutbrace from RPW in perth $200 fitted as for shocks and springs don't know the best place to go as i'm in Bunbury.:)

BishiBenj
26-04-2007, 03:51 PM
kewl thanks for that, so ur using k n d filters, what kinda effect do they have?
worth getting?

likeashot
26-04-2007, 04:00 PM
kewl thanks for that, so ur using k n d filters, what kinda effect do they have?
worth getting?

YES, A GOOD ONE, YES.:D
Hope that helps.

BishiBenj
26-04-2007, 04:04 PM
haha very muchly, ta.
how much r they? cos ive been lookin (only for about 5 secs) and only seen us prices
benj

s_tim_ulate
26-04-2007, 04:05 PM
Try the search button too

Handling: shocks, lowered springs, coilovers, better compound tyres, sway bars, strut braces,

Power: panel/pod air filter, CAI, EZboy pod box, port n polish, muffler/exhaust, extractors, turbo/supercharger (~$10k), New ECU/power chip, different fuel, NOS, big drift wing, big pioneer sticker on the back windscreen etc.

BishiBenj
26-04-2007, 04:07 PM
thanks dude, i might even try 2xbig pioneer stickers, whoa back off!
haha yeh cant wait to get my baby

Chisholm
26-04-2007, 04:15 PM
here's my list of good value-for money mods that are worth doing for you:

handling:

-Whiteline adjustable 22mm rear swaybar
-Whiteline front strutbrace
-Whiteline anti-lift/castor kit
-King Lows springs
-KYB Excel-G shocks, or Koni reds as used in the ralliarts if you can afford to spend some more
-17-18" rims so you can use lower profile tyres. 19-20"s are too heavy and expensive. Maybe some stock 17" TJII vrx rims, or 17" ralliart rims for convenience/cheapness.
- Front brake upgrade off the awd/ralliart magnas.

Performance

- Homemade CAI..the cheapest 5-6kw atw you'll ever gain.
- better intake manifold. EZboy is likely to be selling them soon, RPW also does them too if that doesn't work out.
-Barrys grounding kit. Probably not much of a gain in the top-end, but very noticeabl down low for daily driving.
-K&n panel. Not convinced you really gain any peak power, but power seems to drop off less as you rev beyond peak power, which is nice.
-Pacemaker or RPW extractors. Starts getting pricy here for the gains, but some seem to think it makes a big difference in torque and revvability, not so much for peak power.
- 3" metal-cat. Been advised by EZboy to do this, apparently is worthwhile.
- 2.5" exhaust piping. Debatable..some seem to think it makes a big difference, others reckon the stock sysem flows fine. I lean towards the latter. The biggest gain in exhaust for magnas is a higher-flowing muffler, not needed in your case since the sports/vrx mufflers already flow nice.

With the performance mods, alot of them are supporting mods if you wanto chase more power, rather than doing all that much by themselves.

After this is gets very expensive..cams/piggback ECU. After that either a n/a rebuild with better internals and headwork, or forced induction.

Give us an idea of how much you are looking to spend, and maybe we can advise you on what mods are worth doing the most.

Personally I take my car to the track, so handling/brakes/semi-slicks come first. Now I'm finally at the stage where I wanto start chasing more power, and might actually be able to put it down on the track. Still not done with my suspension thou, anti-lift kit going in soon, and coilovers eventually.

IMO get your handling/suspension sorted first..nice handling is so much more rewarding than a bit of extra power, which you can't really enjoy with boat-like handling anyway.

Phonic
26-04-2007, 04:29 PM
Quality post right there^^^:D

BishiBenj
26-04-2007, 04:38 PM
yeah definately, big thanks for that one man, just makin me look forward to gettin it so i can blow sum munnys!!!

Magtone
26-04-2007, 04:55 PM
Well...not too sure on a VR-X, they might have some of this covered.

Usually for basic mods, exhaust system (a full one, extractors ect), cams (which a VR-X has), a Cold Air Intake (not a huge deal) Panel/Pod Filter (not a big deal either).

One of the best things you can do is handling mods. A VR-X already has decent power...give it some handling mods and you'll be laughing. Its one thing to have speed, its another to be able to use in when cornering.

A VR-X does not have different cams to an executive:nuts: it was a puta retune and an rear muffler. After having put a full system on after i had extractors i felt i wasted my money....extractors and panel did help a bit so chuck those on but i ran a 15.3 1/4 mile before and after a hi flow cat and catback system was put on. Unless you are doing eng mods(which i doubt cos this is insurance related) down the track...put your money into suspension lowering, upgraded sway bars, strut tower bar etc...instead of exhaust...they flow very well for a factory system.

Chisholm
26-04-2007, 05:27 PM
A VR-X does not have different cams to an executive

Actually, AFAIK with the TJIs the sports and vrx had a slightly different cam profile. They also run slightly advanced base timing too. The muffler is the main difference, but a few kw probably came from a few other little fiddles like the ones I've mentioned.

with the TJIIs I believe all the magnas had the "revised" cam profile. The ralliart had a somewhat different cam profile, but still pretty mild..apparently mitsu had a pre-production cam making 200kw, but ditched it due to a slightly lumpy idle or something like that.

LeGiOnAiR
26-04-2007, 05:49 PM
Sheesh MagTone sorry i got it wrong, what a tragedy...

To the OP, Chisholm has the idea going on what you should do. Just be prepared to pay a lot by the end of it. And being in Perth it might be a bit harder to find Magna related stuff, so just be patient.

Disciple
27-04-2007, 04:25 AM
Being in Perth I would of thought would be easier because RPW is over that way?

piv
27-04-2007, 06:30 AM
Actually, AFAIK with the TJIs the sports and vrx had a slightly different cam profile. They also run slightly advanced base timing too. The muffler is the main difference, but a few kw probably came from a few other little fiddles like the ones I've mentioned.

with the TJIIs I believe all the magnas had the "revised" cam profile. The ralliart had a somewhat different cam profile, but still pretty mild..apparently mitsu had a pre-production cam making 200kw, but ditched it due to a slightly lumpy idle or something like that.

I was always under the impression vrx had the muffler change alone. The TH onwards had a different cam, and so did the TJ (only tiny revisions), but I thought otherwise they were the same...

LeGiOnAiR
27-04-2007, 08:05 AM
Being in Perth I would of thought would be easier because RPW is over that way?

Yeah but apart from RPW there couldnt be that many options, right?

Disciple
27-04-2007, 08:07 PM
Yeah but apart from RPW there couldnt be that many options, right?
Yeah but APART from RPW lol. There's nothin over here champ.

[TUFFTR]
27-04-2007, 08:13 PM
BIGGEST OOPMH from a VRX = Supercharger.

Or if you dont mind farting around with your engine for a few months you can go down the N/A path.

But for drive in drive out power the Sprintex Supercharger would be the best option.

Gas_Hed
27-04-2007, 09:44 PM
OK, the VRX and SPORTS use EXACTLY the same cams as the Exec.

The KE/KF/TH/KH 3.5's were 147kW

The TJ Series 1 was upped to 150kW with a revised cam.

TJ2 got a computer tune to up to 155kW.

VRX & Sports Series 1&2 both already have the computer tune, so engine is 155kW, then add the higher flowing muffler and you get your 163kW as they shipped from factory.

This has been covered many many times, and this is the SECOND time in a week I have answered this.

:gtfo:

Chisholm
27-04-2007, 10:24 PM
OK, the VRX and SPORTS use EXACTLY the same cams as the Exec.

The KE/KF/TH/KH 3.5's were 147kW

The TJ Series 1 was upped to 150kW with a revised cam.

TJ2 got a computer tune to up to 155kW.

VRX & Sports Series 1&2 both already have the computer tune, so engine is 155kW, then add the higher flowing muffler and you get your 163kW as they shipped from factory.

This has been covered many many times, and this is the SECOND time in a week I have answered this.

:gtfo:

Interesting, I was told the 5kw hike in power from TJI to TJII for the execs was due to a revised cam profile, not a different tune. But I'm not 100% sure about this, hell I can't even remember where I got this "info" from, so you are probably right if you have reason to believe you're sure.

piv
28-04-2007, 10:14 AM
OK, the VRX and SPORTS use EXACTLY the same cams as the Exec.

The KE/KF/TH/KH 3.5's were 147kW

The TJ Series 1 was upped to 150kW with a revised cam.

TJ2 got a computer tune to up to 155kW.

VRX & Sports Series 1&2 both already have the computer tune, so engine is 155kW, then add the higher flowing muffler and you get your 163kW as they shipped from factory.

This has been covered many many times, and this is the SECOND time in a week I have answered this.

:gtfo:

My money is on this.. almost certain I've read that explanation before. I knew there was only 1 cam revision for the magna motors.