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liberate
30-04-2007, 08:50 AM
If I remove my engine and gearbox out of my TE what will be left in my engine bay? anyone have pics?

Also, how hard is it to remove the engine and gearbox? is it as easy as removing the gearbox then unbolting the engine mounts, disconnect all the looms and stuff and out comes the engine?

I reckon pulling it all out probably wouldn't be too hard, it would just be putting it all back togeather I'd probably have trouble with lol

-Daniel

will3690
30-04-2007, 08:56 AM
Battery, windscreen washer bottle, radiator, axles, i think thats about it... really depends if you disconnect everything from the engine or not..

liberate
30-04-2007, 08:58 AM
The engine bay will be getting sprayed so I will need to remove pretty much everything lol.

How do you remember where everything plugs back into and connects to when the engine goes back in?

will3690
30-04-2007, 08:59 AM
The engine bay will be getting sprayed so I will need to remove pretty much everything lol.

How do you remember where everything plugs back into and connects to when the engine goes back in?


Thats wat labels are for.... Label and color code EVERYTHING!!! lol

liberate
30-04-2007, 09:01 AM
I reckon I'll take lots of photos aswell lol

How hard wwould it be to remove it all? gearbox, engine etc?

magna buff
30-04-2007, 09:11 AM
with the engine crane you have no problem
drain all fluids
undo all the hoses heater hoses wires to the fire wall and electrical connections
you can leave the intake manifold on
remove radiator
remove exhaust manifold undo exhaust pipes
undo cables and linkages
front of car on car stands
undo cv joints remove them from the gearbox
undo engine mounts lift engine and gearbox out

done and time for a beer one days work

liberate
30-04-2007, 09:13 AM
so if I drop the gearbox out from underneath the car does the engine come out the top or bottom of the engine bay?

magna buff
30-04-2007, 09:15 AM
yes it will come out the top

If you have a crane strong eneough

easier to take engine and gearbox out the top as one
up to you if you want to split it

liberate
30-04-2007, 09:17 AM
yes it will come out the top
so after I have dissassembled everything would I leave the engine and gearbox attatched and just pull the whole lot out the top? or do I drop the gearbox then pull the engine out the top?

liberate
30-04-2007, 09:21 AM
if wrecking hire an oxy welder and cut engine out of chassis

if not

with the engine crane you have no problem
drain all fluids
undo all the hoses heater hoses wires to the fire wall and electrical connections
you can leave the intake manifold on
remove radiator
remove exhaust manifold undo exhaust pipes
undo cables and linkages
front of car on car stands
undo cv joints remove them from the gearbox
undo engine mounts lift engine and gearbox out

done and time for a beer one days work

what do you mean by cables and linkages?

magna buff
30-04-2007, 09:21 AM
gearbox and engine can be taken out the top

before you do .......undo the torque converter drive plate bolts hard to get to later when you want to split them

and undo airconditioning compressor and power steering pump off the engine block

magna buff
30-04-2007, 09:23 AM
speedo gearshift accelerator anything that stops the engine from lifting out that is attached to the cars internal for wiring parts

especially efi and anti pollution pipes and fuel line

liberate
30-04-2007, 09:25 AM
speedo gearshift accelerator anything that stops the engine form lifting aout that is attached to the cars internal for wiring parts

especially efi and anti pollution pipes and fuel line

so I have to drain all fluids you said? so thats fuel, coolant, trans fluid etc?

magna buff
30-04-2007, 09:29 AM
autotranny fluid /coolant and engine oil only


not petrol that stays in the tank

turbo_charade
30-04-2007, 09:37 AM
I do not thing you should attempt this :D

It is not simple job by any means. The brakes, fuel lines and a lot of other things are attached to the engine bay.

Its one of those things,

if you had to ask...

liberate
30-04-2007, 09:39 AM
I do not thing you should attempt this :D

It is not simple job by any means. The brakes, fuel lines and a lot of other things are attached to the engine bay.

Its one of those things,

if you had to ask...
One of my mates is an apprentice mechanic, do you reckon if he helped we could do it?

turbo_charade
30-04-2007, 10:01 AM
If you are going to go to the trouble of take a motor out, you might as well spend another few hours and remove everything.

Anyone can do it, but it will take a long time for a novice and you may end up replacing a few things due to damage. Expect it to take 3-4 full days for a novice with all the right tools. You will just need to jump on here and ask a lot of questions when you get stuck and hope someone has done it before.

You will never learn if you don't just get stuck in and do it :)

GTV_KruzR
30-04-2007, 12:01 PM
well you need a engine hoist, proper jacks, good strong socket set, depending on what year apprentice he is and if his ever done it unsupervised, its fairly simple connect disconnect job, not as easier job like back in the day of gemi's, lots of plugs n cables, and if you aren't mechanically minded it will take you a while, and you might break something or bend something, or drop something.

considering your painting the whole engine bay and have to take nearly everything out, i wouldn't part the engine and tranny, its easier just to lift them out together and put them back in together. then you have all the wires that run along the firewall and around, power steering and brake cylinder, which are all time consuming to remove and not so easy to put back. don't take this the wrong way, but by the sounds of it you don't seam to have the know how of how to do it, and your not goin to get it from askin here because it comes with experience, so i wouldn't bother risking damage from inorrectly refitting something. my first time was with a kingswood, and not much to go wrong there, but if i didn't have help from someone more experienced i would have missed little things that mean a lot.

check up on your apprentice mate, see if HE has done it before on a late model car. FWD and RWD are a bit different but same concept applies.

veradabeast
30-04-2007, 04:42 PM
When you're lifting the whole lot out, really double check that absolutely everything's undone. Try to keep it all clear of the master cylinder and brake lines when you're lifting, and you'll have to put a serious angle on the whole lot to get the trans to clear the bump it sits under.

When I pulled the motor out of my KR, I was completely unprepared and it took me nearly 2 days to get it out.

madjack
02-05-2007, 12:07 PM
A useful bit of gear for this activity is a leveling bar.
Connects between the crane and the motor and allows the angle of whatever is being lifted to be adjusted with a screw mechanism.
It makes life a whole lot easier.
And make sure you're using quality lifting gear, chains etc that you can trust. It's a heavy lump of metal !