I've read somewhere that Kings Superlows look good but don't handle as well as Kings Lows. Is this just an opinion? Can anyone here confirm that thier superlows handle just as well or better than the standard OR Worse?

I've been planning the kings superlow/low combo but now this is making me think twice. I don't want crappy handling & bumpy ride at the cost of looks. Would really love to hear from people who have actually done this mod.

i've got lovells lows all round its handles and looks great, it went lovells cause i read some where on here that kings eat suspesions parts away quicker and lovells don't do it as quick

I've read somewhere that Kings Superlows look good but don't handle as well as Kings Lows. Is this just an opinion? Can anyone here confirm that thier superlows handle just as well or better than the standard OR Worse?

I've been planning the kings superlow/low combo but now this is making me think twice. I don't want crappy handling & bumpy ride at the cost of looks. Would really love to hear from people who have actually done this mod.

sorry to say but to make the car lower, the springs need to be harder. if the springs are harder, then it will be bumpier. thats just the way things are

Ive got SL on front and Lows on the Rear, bumpy as hell. Kings BTW.

Handles VERY weird, see below:

Ive got an odd question since we are in the handling topic, my car pulls to the left violently at random intervals, I can drive all day no problem then suddenly it will pull to the left and the whole car may move 15cm to the left. Perfectly flat roads this dont happen, but even the slightest imperfection such as a gradual small raise in the road surface (like the bottom of a hill for example) will make the car pull left.

Only had this since I got shocks and springs and rims put on? (WITH an alignment of course)

Ideas? Would a strut brace/sway bar reduce this?

I've read somewhere that Kings Superlows look good but don't handle as well as Kings Lows. Is this just an opinion? Can anyone here confirm that thier superlows handle just as well or better than the standard OR Worse?

I've been planning the kings superlow/low combo but now this is making me think twice. I don't want crappy handling & bumpy ride at the cost of looks. Would really love to hear from people who have actually done this mod.
From what I've read and am lead to believe, King Lows or Lovell Lows, whatever grabs your fancy, will handle better than Superlows because they are a harder spring, whereas Superlows are a softer spring. If you want good handling, get the Lows, but like Keith said, you can't have good handling on Lows and a decent ride. It will be harsh.

I have the King Lows/Superlows combo, and yes, the car handles so much better, however you feel the bumps in the road. If you are looking at new sports style or replacement springs, and low profile tyres as well you can guarantee to spill your coffee on a pothole..

If youre driving on crappy roads often, then I would recommend leaving the car at standard height.. If most of the roads you drive on are sealed and decent, you really shouldnt have a problem unless youre aiming for every bump and ditch.

King superlows/lows combo give a firm ride, especially when combined with KYB shocks, but handling is greatly improved, and alot of people prefer to be able to 'feel' the road more with this setup.

I have Lovells Superlows front and back with KYB Shocks and polyurethane bushes on the front shocks. Every pot hole, sewer cover, etc i hit feels like I crashed into something. Very harsh on the car. Not so much the rear, more the front. Feels like the dash is gonna fall apart. Can't be good for the car. I think the front shocks are bottoming out. Dunno if the KYBs are shortened shocks that suit the Lovells Superlows. Maybe I need different shocks. Didn't check up on this before I purchased them.

Anyway, the Lovells Superlows look great on my Verada. Although I'm thinking of compressing the rears an inch or so as the rear seems a tad higher.

Definantely get Lows over SuperLows. As already said, The superlows are way too soft, basically the shorter the spring, the stiffer it needs to be, with the shock bump and rebound rates ramped up accordingly to match.

King Lows are just right, both in terms of ride height and spring rate IMO. When you lower the car too low, you are putting suspension comonents out of their effective operating range, and your geometry goes up **** creek. Having a very low riding car only works well if you all the related components have been designed/chosen for it, e.g racecars.

I've read somewhere that Kings Superlows look good but don't handle as well as Kings Lows. Is this just an opinion? Can anyone here confirm that thier superlows handle just as well or better than the standard OR Worse?

I've been planning the kings superlow/low combo but now this is making me think twice. I don't want crappy handling & bumpy ride at the cost of looks. Would really love to hear from people who have actually done this mod.

Mikeee I have a GTV same as yours with King lows and standard GTV shocks and the handling is great, ride is not bumpy and it never bottoms out and you don't have to watch out for every speed bump. You look like you have at least lows allready?

Mikeee I have a GTV same as yours with King lows and standard GTV shocks and the handling is great, ride is not bumpy and it never bottoms out and you don't have to watch out for every speed bump. You look like you have at least lows allready?

Thanks for all the feedback. My car has to double as a family car and I have a couple of baby seats in the back so it looks like lows for me.

MAGFAN: Yeah the GTV/GTVi is already factory lowered but it's only a small amount, how much lower did your car go after you fitted the lows?

Hey folks, long time reader first time post.
I went with lovells superlows all round first up, looked awesome but drove quite harsh.
Left 80mm clearance between extractors and road also.
Now I have lows on the front and still superlows on the rear, yes thats right backwards to what most have got, except one on here who has same.
Now it looks sweet, 2 finger gap both ends, is legal, and drives mint.

I have Lovells Superlows front and back with KYB Shocks and polyurethane bushes on the front shocks. Every pot hole, sewer cover, etc i hit feels like I crashed into something. Very harsh on the car. Not so much the rear, more the front. Feels like the dash is gonna fall apart. Can't be good for the car. I think the front shocks are bottoming out. Dunno if the KYBs are shortened shocks that suit the Lovells Superlows. Maybe I need different shocks. Didn't check up on this before I purchased them.

Anyway, the Lovells Superlows look great on my Verada. Although I'm thinking of compressing the rears an inch or so as the rear seems a tad higher.


The bushes are causing most of the harshness. But at the same time I bet theyre giving you sharper steering. That was the case in my EL XR8

or coilovers? i'm really tempted to go the hotbits ones after saving. from reading the posts on the forums especially :)

Definantely get Lows over SuperLows. As already said, The superlows are way too soft, basically the shorter the spring, the stiffer it needs to be, with the shock bump and rebound rates ramped up accordingly to match.

King Lows are just right, both in terms of ride height and spring rate IMO. When you lower the car too low, you are putting suspension comonents out of their effective operating range, and your geometry goes up **** creek. Having a very low riding car only works well if you all the related components have been designed/chosen for it, e.g racecars.

Couldn't agree more. I have Kings lows and they are really at the extreme of what the standard suspension geometry can comfortably take. Superlows look brilliant but really take the suspension geometry outside of what Mitsu intended, with the inevitable compromises that follow (usually most noticeable in suspension and steering components wearing out way quicker).

The only thing I would add is not to forget that it is actually the spings which absorb the shock and then the dampers (which most everyone mistakenly calls 'shock absorbers') which then control the way the spring reacts. So if you use a stock damper with a Kings low spring it will be 'softer' in ride and a whole lot less fidgety than my Kings/Koni Yellows setup is around town.

Don't get superlows/lows, they weren't engineered to go together. Lows already is practical, not uncomfortable and handles well enough. Arguably a rear sway bar is better for handling than new springs (reduces body roll), but most people do springs first.

What I want to know : do the veradas/awds just have softer springs but the same length? Awds seem to sit like king lows stock, especially the TL onward.

Ive got SL on front and Lows on the Rear, bumpy as hell. Kings BTW.

Handles VERY weird, see below:

Ive got an odd question since we are in the handling topic, my car pulls to the left violently at random intervals, I can drive all day no problem then suddenly it will pull to the left and the whole car may move 15cm to the left. Perfectly flat roads this dont happen, but even the slightest imperfection such as a gradual small raise in the road surface (like the bottom of a hill for example) will make the car pull left.

Only had this since I got shocks and springs and rims put on? (WITH an alignment of course)

Ideas? Would a strut brace/sway bar reduce this?
Hey mate... that sounds to me like you/they didn't align the holes in the strut top plate when you/they put the springs in. There is a hole in the top plate and a whole in the bottom one as well. They are meant to be aligned when putting it back together. I think the member Clarion Magna had this problem a while ago.

Ive got SL on front and Lows on the Rear, bumpy as hell. Kings BTW.

Handles VERY weird, see below:

Ive got an odd question since we are in the handling topic, my car pulls to the left violently at random intervals, I can drive all day no problem then suddenly it will pull to the left and the whole car may move 15cm to the left. Perfectly flat roads this dont happen, but even the slightest imperfection such as a gradual small raise in the road surface (like the bottom of a hill for example) will make the car pull left.

Only had this since I got shocks and springs and rims put on? (WITH an alignment of course)

Ideas? Would a strut brace/sway bar reduce this?

THis could possibly be that the top plates of the stuts are not aligned,

In my case they were totally off and when u would turn to full lock, the spring would wind up and then let go making a pretty loud sound, so depending on which way i had turned to full lock the car would then pull to that side, while goin straight, bu then i could turn the steering the other way and then the car would go staright with no alignment issue,

THis could possibly be that the top plates of the stuts are not aligned,

In my case they were totally off and when u would turn to full lock, the spring would wind up and then let go making a pretty loud sound, so depending on which way i had turned to full lock the car would then pull to that side, while goin straight, bu then i could turn the steering the other way and then the car would go staright with no alignment issue,



Nah its just tramlining. He says on flat perfect roads it doesnt happen at all.

I have the same problem as gas head!! But my car has never been lowered and as far as i know never had any major suspension work done on it... Only thing thats been changed is the rims for 18's might have to take it down to a suspension place and get it checked out

I have the same problem as gas head!! But my car has never been lowered and as far as i know never had any major suspension work done on it... Only thing thats been changed is the rims for 18's might have to take it down to a suspension place and get it checked out


Well that settles it then... As soon as u put wider rims on ur car, u will tram line. Do a search on TramLining.

I've read somewhere that Kings Superlows look good but don't handle as well as Kings Lows. Is this just an opinion? Can anyone here confirm that thier superlows handle just as well or better than the standard OR Worse?

I've been planning the kings superlow/low combo but now this is making me think twice. I don't want crappy handling & bumpy ride at the cost of looks. Would really love to hear from people who have actually done this mod.
Lows all round will handle better than superlows front and lows rear because like other people have said, superlows puts the geometry out, and also having 2 different lowering springs puts the car off balance.
I have lows all round and handling has improved ALOT, but it is a harsher ride (not too harsh though), but you get that when you have stiffer springs.

To answer your question in short..

Yes kingsprings handle good :)

My car feels 10x better than stock. I have lows and it was a massive drop from normal. The car sits noticably lower, felt good being able to look over my roof and see the other side lol Also, lows have no problems but if you go any lower like superlows then you will run into a few problems. I mean I already have minor problems with driveways etc on lows.

GET LOW!