After speaking with some pro's, ive made the leap into silliness. Today i lashed out and fited a set of 4" Clarion 2 ways (not the new ones, the old ones, there old top of the range ones.) To set up a 3 way stage in the VW, i used a pioneer Crossover, a 4 channel amp, a pair of VDO MPS1700 6.5" drivers, and the New clarions.

Its realitivly simple to do, and fairly effective way to raise the sound stage, well if you have the spaces.

The 4" co-axials are mounted to the top of the dash, on thier own channels on the amp, running from about 750hz and upwards. this is done on the crossover onm the amp. The VDOs are running off the other 2 channels, through the Pioneer crossover, to create a Band pass for the midbass freq's. This is set from 80hz (on the amp) to whatever the crossover point on the crossover was. i dont realy know how high this is. The levels can be tuned via the fader on the headunit as to how much mid bass you want, compaired to the mid and trebble.

All up. what iv'e achived is a raised soundstage, and better control over the midbass.
It now sounds as if you are in the first couple of rows of a concert, and the vocalist is standing on the dashboard. then the back up singers come in either side.

I'll post some pics.

cant wait to hear it man, sounds like an interesting setup, can definitely set something like this up in the magna, was thinking of doing it but then couldnt be bothered and i still need to get other things for the system still :P

I scored 2 sets of those VDO splits for $100 a pop, stupid me didnt get a set though.

They are a great sounding speaker man....This front stage setup should be wicked..

how much did it cost? can pick up 3-ways at decent prices (from very good brands), but the recommended place for the midrange is in the kicks, near the woofer, which adds a fair bit to install costs and difficulty.

have the stock 3-ways in the rada, not that i reckon it makes much difference :P

sounds pretty freaking ghetto :P but if it was no cost, why the hell not! nice one

^^ yeah i was thinking that too lol

Ha!!! Ghetto to da MAX!!!!

Having said that, some of the most impressive installs I've heard were pretty much of a ghetto nature in form or function. I reckon if it sounds good, it don't matter how you got it or did it, it's done its job.

One of the most painful experiences I've had to deal with was realizing that my Z6s, and PPI amps, and Infinity perfects in my current setup, didn't quite sound as good as a mates ghetto install with stuff that was taken from the cars at the wreckers where he worked, and he had pretty much done the same as what you did.... But for some reason it sounded f**kn awesome!!! It's still ****t1n me a bit, but hey.. that's how it goes.

average gear and good setup is way better than awesome gear set up by a 4 year old poodle.

8" drivers in the front FTW :P