Well, was talking to a very knowledgable guy at a brake place here in Perth today about brakes for the Rada... i knew what i was looking for, and he did seem like he knew the car (had the age to know the car too). Anyways he mentioned the Pajero twin-pot upgrade, which i'd heard of before on here, but i think only maybe 1-4 ppl have gone thru with (after a search on here, it seems like that amount!)... he looked up the catalogues, wrote down the matching part numbers etc

these are the models he listed would bolt on:
NH
NJ
NK
NL

so May 1991 - April 2000.

Now, i'm thinking of being a guinea pig for this, if i can find the later model calipers at a wreckers round here. advantage of the pajero calipers is theyre twin pots, and the pad is a fair bit bigger than the stock magna/verada pads. and can still fit 276mm rotors on them (cheap :) )

so, just double checking, anyone done it? also should i also get the brake lines off the pajero, or will the Rada lines be fine?

wish me luck :D

Wouldn't throwing massive calipers on a small disc just make it fade faster? I thought the whole reason behind massive discs was not only the surface area but also cooling, because if you have a massive pad creating a lot of heat, it wont dissipate fast enough and just fade like a mole..

Is the Pajero caliper bigger than a twin-pot AWD/2nd gen rada caliper? Can we fit bigger discs to suit the pajero calipers?

Wouldn't throwing massive calipers on a small disc just make it fade faster?


Trust me, they don't fade. :badgrin:



Is the Pajero caliper bigger than a twin-pot AWD/2nd gen rada caliper? Can we fit bigger discs to suit the pajero calipers?

The caliper is exactly the same, however the AWD calipers use a different bracket for the 3rd Gen steering knuckle. My calipers came from an NK, and they went straight on. The discs are also exactly the same.


should i also get the brake lines off the pajero, or will the Rada lines be fine?

Neither line will work. They WILL physically join, but they won't seal. The original Magna brakes use a mushroom flare throughout, while anything with a twin piston setup used a double flare. A mushroom flare won't seal with a double flare, and vice versa. You'll need custom lines made up.

So this means the pajero caliper IS the same as the twin-pot 2nd gen magna's? If not, will the pajero calipers fit the 2nd gens?

Sorry to hijack Spackbace :P Nah i'm not really sorry.

Same disc, same caliper, same pad.

The twins I've got on my car came from an NK Pajero.

Im sorry, but have you had brake fade with decient pads and good fluid before?

NO ONE needs bigger brakes for there magna here, as the stock brakes are very capable with decient pads and good fluid!

This is true... unless your racing in an endurance race your wasting your money, race pads will give you the same stopping upgrade and when you think about it, doesn't every working brake system activate tcl anyway?

Im sorry, but have you had brake fade with decient pads and good fluid before?

NO ONE needs bigger brakes for there magna here, as the stock brakes are very capable with decient pads and good fluid!

good point about the fluid, get some good stuff in there, i've ****ed mine and now it shows up every time i make a few stops, just another thing on the list..

No i disagree, going from single pot to twin pot calipers has saved my ass a few times before, they just grab a WHOLE lot better then crappy single pots.
For everyday driving i think its a great mod :thumbsup:

Besides, they look cooler than single pots anyway!

Im sorry, but have you had brake fade with decient pads and good fluid before?

NO ONE needs bigger brakes for there magna here, as the stock brakes are very capable with decient pads and good fluid!


Thats a load of ****. The difference between my TE with the single piston 276mm setup and puny rear solid discs and the standard AWD/ralliart setup is huge. On my TE the brakes would get fade without too much provocation and the discs would warp. I tried a number of pads bendix ultimate etc and had dba rotors and good fluid and it was still underdone. The twin pot setup and the bigger ventilated rears make a huge difference to the car and actually provide good feel adn decent confidence that your going to stop.

I tried a number of pads bendix ultimate etc and had dba rotors and good fluid and it was still underdone. The twin pot setup and the bigger ventilated rears make a huge difference to the car and actually provide good feel and decent confidence that your going to stop.

I completely agree. The difference between the single and twin piston setup is worlds apart.

1) got any pricing on these pajero calipers at all? or would it be a wrecker jobbie?

2) pricing on getting the custom lines?

3) recommend good brake fluid?

I pulled my calipers off myself, and they cost me ~$30 bucks each, plus $120 for new seal kits. The lines cost me $45 each, plus $70 for fitting, $80 for Bendix pads. All up you're looking at about $375, which is average from what I've heard. I was able to use my existing RDA slotted rotors, which saved me a fair bit.

Wreckers will probably have the calipers available on thier own, but they'll know what they've got and nail you for it.

I use the Castrol DOT5.1 fluid in my brakes. Works really well, and I've never ever had fading issues.

Wouldn't we need a bigger master cylinder?

Wouldn't we need a bigger master cylinder?

Nope. All Magnas used the same master cylinder, ABS or not. You'd only need a bigger one if you were changing to 4 pots up front and twins on the rear, but even then it'd probably be unnessesary.

Nope. All Magnas used the same master cylinder, ABS or not. You'd only need a bigger one if you were changing to 4 pots up front and twins on the rear, but even then it'd probably be unnessesary.

Oh, thanks for that.. Im seriously gonna consider doing this mod. But not so much a DIY since you gotta get the seals done by someone aye? I've got a TE.

']No i disagree, going from single pot to twin pot calipers has saved my ass a few times before, they just grab a WHOLE lot better then crappy single pots.
For everyday driving i think its a great mod :thumbsup:

:stoopid:

I agree with TUFFTR

It has saved me quite a few times are are very good when you are towing a trailer down hill.

worth the money as i drive alot.

Plus good when a crazy driver drives my car so i don't have to grab the dash board :D .

I did the seals myself. Finding the kits was really trying. Mitsubishi don't stock them, but ordered a kit which they believed would 'definetely' fit. It didn't. I ended up getting the kits from an aftermarket clutch shop of all places. $60 a side. Set up a date with your manual and workbench, and you should have them together in a few hours. It's not hard to do, just fiddly. Plus you get to find out exactly how everything works, and you'll know that everything's clean and done properly.

Cause you're running a TE, you'll need the Ralliart/AWD setup; the caliper brackets from the R ans S series won't fit E-W series steering knuckles.

There are two versions of the 3rd Gen twin piston brakes; wagon and sedan. The wagon has a 49mm piston, the sedan a 42mm. The seal kits for the AWD sedan WILL fit the 2nd Gen twin pistons.

I had my brakes professionally fitted. I wasn't keen on destroying the existing fittings, cause they were tight as hell after 290k. The hoses are the sticking point with these brakes. You'll need new hoses; there's no other way around it. Because the original system was setup for PBR calipers, which use what's called a mushroom flare, the twin pistons, which I believe are made in Japan, won't seal properly. The hose you need has a female mushroom flare on one end, and a male double flare fitting on the other.

I did the seals myself. Finding the kits was really trying. Mitsubishi don't stock them, but ordered a kit which they believed would 'definetely' fit. It didn't. I ended up getting the kits from an aftermarket clutch shop of all places. $60 a side. Set up a date with your manual and workbench, and you should have them together in a few hours. It's not hard to do, just fiddly. Plus you get to find out exactly how everything works, and you'll know that everything's clean and done properly.

Cause you're running a TE, you'll need the Ralliart/AWD setup; the caliper brackets from the R ans S series won't fit E-W series steering knuckles.

There are two versions of the 3rd Gen twin piston brakes; wagon and sedan. The wagon has a 49mm piston, the sedan a 42mm. The seal kits for the AWD sedan WILL fit the 2nd Gen twin pistons.

I had my brakes professionally fitted. I wasn't keen on destroying the existing fittings, cause they were tight as hell after 290k. The hoses are the sticking point with these brakes. You'll need new hoses; there's no other way around it. Because the original system was setup for PBR calipers, which use what's called a mushroom flare, the twin pistons, which I believe are made in Japan, won't seal properly. The hose you need has a female mushroom flare on one end, and a male double flare fitting on the other.

Thanks heaps for the info... Damn, its alot harder to find Ralliart/AWD calipers than to find the Pajero ones...

Thanks heaps for the info... Damn, its alot harder to find Ralliart/AWD calipers than to find the Pajero ones...

true all you got to do is keep on looking they are like gold really hard to find.

see this is why i made this thread... even if i dont end up doing it, it still works out cheaper than RPWs twin pot setup (over $1k) and it gets all the info into one thread :) everyone goes on about the AWD/Ralliart ones, but this seems just as viable, yet calipers are surely heaps easier to find!

go amc :D

Anyone tried the four piston brakes from the newer model pajero. Im sure wheel clearance would be a problem

Anyone tried the four piston brakes from the newer model pajero. Im sure wheel clearance would be a problem

every time i see one of these buggers on the road,my eyes are drawn to those nice four pot calipers..and ..drool...yes..i too have wondered if they would fit...but think of the cost...

3000GT VR4 1999 Calipers + 314mm disc's bolt onto 3rd gens.

;1172981']3000GT VR4 1999 Calipers + 314mm disc's bolt onto 3rd gens.

is that both front and rear TUFF?

cheers luke

is that both front and rear TUFF?

cheers luke

You are more then welcome to buy some rear ones for me to try out, as far as my wallet goes, only the front ones fit:P