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akko
27-01-2004, 10:41 AM
Has anyone ever installed the one piece parabolics into a TJ or similar that previously had the two piece headlight + seperate indicator?

The reason I ask is that I wouldn't mind getting some and I understand that the two piece parabolics that come from the verada's dont have the parkers and hence are not legal?

If anyone could clarify this for me that would be fantastic - Thanks!

Bain
27-01-2004, 11:28 AM
Has anyone ever installed the one piece parabolics into a TJ or similar that previous had the two piece headlight + seperate indicator?
If anyone could clarify this for me that would be fantastic - Thanks!

The VRX and Sports come with the 1 peice parabolics in the TJ series.

akko
27-01-2004, 11:33 AM
I have a 2001 Exec that i want to installed the paras into, what i want to do is get a pair of one pieces from either a VRX/Sports as you say and fit them into my Exec.

My exec currently has the standard two-piece headlight/indicator combo, will the one piece paras from the VRX/Sports fit and plug straight in?

Bain
27-01-2004, 12:22 PM
I have a 2001 Exec that i want to installed the paras into, what i want to do is get a pair of one pieces from either a VRX/Sports as you say and fit them into my Exec.

My exec currently has the standard two-piece headlight/indicator combo, will the one piece paras from the VRX/Sports fit and plug straight in?

Fit yes.. plug straight in.. not that i know of..

v64
27-01-2004, 12:27 PM
You will need to rewire them

WTCHME has done the swap, you best bet is to drop him a PM :)

Bain
27-01-2004, 03:03 PM
You will need to rewire them

WTCHME has done the swap, you best bet is to drop him a PM :)

I believe he has done the 2pot parabolics.. not the 1 whole piece..

akko
27-01-2004, 03:09 PM
hmmm.... i wonder what he did about the parkers then...

Perhaps he managed to get a hold of a set of non-verada ones that had parkers if they exist?

WTCHME???

v64
27-01-2004, 04:30 PM
ahh shit i just spent the arvo with him and forgot to ask
lol
ill ask him on msn tonight

AussieMagna
27-01-2004, 04:59 PM
Akko if your's is a TJ then the once piece parabolics will bolt straight in. The wiring will be different so you will have to re-wire it accordingly.

Best of luck with the conversion :D

User_1
27-01-2004, 06:45 PM
yer i got the 2 piece items fitted. both the 1 piece and 2 piece items are the same to wire up. Just slightly different to fit. Yes you have to rewire the normal beam. I will post on here which wires connect where tomorrow (too dark to see what colour each wire is.

For the parkers what i did is i removed the parkers from my old headlights and fitted them into the parabolics. They fit perfectly into a small bracket tahts in the normal beam.

Redav
27-01-2004, 07:52 PM
How did you get to the brackets?

User_1
27-01-2004, 09:50 PM
well if you look at the normal beam of the parabolic from the glass side you will see a small screw diagonally below the globe. Thats the bracket you need to remove to put the parker assembly in. You just remove the plastic and rubber circle things at the back of the parabolic (as if you were changing your normal beam globes) and you will se the bracket. just squeeze it and pull it and it will pop out. You then just put the parker in.

akko
27-01-2004, 10:05 PM
Thanks WTCHME, look forward to seeing your wiring information/diagram.

Blake, I notice you have the Parabolics listed in your old pricelist on AMC's website, are you still able to source them and at what cost?

I'll probably go with the two piece parabolic as I allready have the indicator part obviously and it would seem a waste to replace it when there is no need to.

Cheers guys!

User_1
27-01-2004, 10:09 PM
the user bogus on here sells parabolic headlights. He would be best to pm to find out if he has any in stock. His usual pricing is $450. When i went to mitsu to get my parabolics mitsubishi wanted $300 extra just for the 1 piece items. Really wouldnt be worth getting the 1 piece items even if you went 2nd hand.

akko
27-01-2004, 10:28 PM
the user bogus on here sells parabolic headlights. He would be best to pm to find out if he has any in stock. His usual pricing is $450. When i went to mitsu to get my parabolics mitsubishi wanted $300 extra just for the 1 piece items. Really wouldnt be worth getting the 1 piece items even if you went 2nd hand.

$450 for a pair plus postage? ... Did you get your two piece items from bogus?

AussieMagna
27-01-2004, 10:43 PM
Sorry but we no longer sell parts through AM.

We used to sell them as cheap as 300 a pair at times but it depends whats avaliable at the time. $450 is a fair price for a pair of two piece parabolics. Don't pay anymore than $600. Make sure they are in good condition and just remember the deal of a lifetime will come around every 3 weeks :D

happy hunting :D

TBuTcher
27-01-2004, 11:10 PM
I installeda set of the one and two piece ones...
they are both illegal as they have no parker...
you either have to use a Verada front bar.. or some driving lights that come on at the parkers stage. or as said above hackinto them and instll the small bayonet type globe..
My singel piece ones donot have the provision for the globe... the two piece ones do have a blanked off section.
Haydhn

DVS
28-01-2004, 03:45 AM
I used my old parkers in my Para's, same as WTCHME just removed the blanks in and pushed them in.

I also have the two piece, and wiring isn't that hard just seems like it at first.

akko
28-01-2004, 06:28 AM
thanks guys, in that case i'll pm bogus a little closer to pay day and see what the going rate is for a set in excellent (near new) condition...

has anyone else here purchased there paras from bogus, all good experiences I hope?

cheers.

eagleaus
28-01-2004, 08:46 AM
I got mine from bogus and they were great, only thing is he does not always supply the OEM side brackets for the two piece lights (mod's the normal brackets).

akko
28-01-2004, 08:59 AM
I got mine from bogus and they were great, only thing is he does not always supply the OEM side brackets for the two piece lights (mod's the normal brackets).

cheers for that, when the time comes I make ask him for them especially and see what he can do. Thanks for the heads up though!

BOosted' BOoya
28-01-2004, 09:05 AM
mine are bogus... i mean from bogus :lol:

yep, i was a bit "iffy" at the time, with the name "Bogus" but yer, i paid and they arrived as promised and im a happy man!! 8)

long live the bogus!! :lol: :D

User_1
28-01-2004, 11:25 AM
no i purchased my items brand new from mitsubishi.. payed a lot more but i like the satisfaction of knowing the items are in perfect condition.

Ok heres how to wire the parabolics

Plug just means which colour wire from the plug and wire is just which colour wire to connect to the plug.

Drivers side
Plug Wire
Red white with red line
white with red line red with white line

passenger side
plug wire
red red with white line
leave red with blue line as is

the remaining wires just get taped up so they dont make any contact with any ground.

Redav
28-01-2004, 11:29 AM
And that makes all lights on for high beam and the outside for low beam?

User_1
28-01-2004, 12:33 PM
no.. thats just to switch between your low beams and high beams. Its a legal setup. If you want all your lights to turn on with the high beam switch you'll need a bunch of relays and much more complex wiring.

Redav
28-01-2004, 12:34 PM
I thought that on high beam all lights were on?

akko
28-01-2004, 07:16 PM
Why the need for different wiring from standard?

I wouldn't have thought that mitsu would have made a different wiring harness and different headlight plug etc etc just to suit the sports & vrx which are just option-uped Magnas anyhow.

Whats the reasoning behind it & this may be a silly question but has anyone tried simply plugging the paras in using the standard headlight plugs & wiring, what happens?

DVS
28-01-2004, 07:20 PM
Mine also are from Bogus and with the Parabolics the low beam are always on and the High beam only come on, you guessed it when you flick the high beam switch, if you just plug the standard plugs in, when you switch to high beam the low beam light go out.


Just for Info on the Parabolics they are all single filiment bulbs unlike the standadard lights which have a high/low on the outer lights the para's only have low on outer high on inner.

akko
28-01-2004, 07:31 PM
Mine also are from Bogus and with the Parabolics the low beam are always on and the High beam only come on, you guessed it when you flick the high beam switch, if you just plug the standard plugs in, when you switch to high beam the low beam light go out.


Just for Info on the Parabolics they are all single filiment bulbs unlike the standadard lights which have a high/low on the outer lights the para's only have low on outer high on inner.

How'd you wire yours up then? ...obviously differently to WTCHME?

DVS
28-01-2004, 07:44 PM
To cut a long story short.


I went to autobarn an got a couple of the headlamp plugs, conected one wire direct to earth and the other to the positive headlamp wire (if you unplug all of the plugs and use a multi meter it's easy to find the positive wire)as the other two wires just swith the headlamp high to low by changing the earth of the lights, as the Parabolics only have a single bulb for both when I turn my headlights on low beam is always on even when high beam is on, no need for any relays or miles of wiring, the high beam plugs on the inside lights are unmodded.

akko
28-01-2004, 10:21 PM
To cut a long story short.

I went to autobarn an got a couple of the headlamp plugs, conected one wire direct to earth and the other to the positive headlamp wire (if you unplug all of the plugs and use a multi meter it's easy to find the positive wire)as the other two wires just swith the headlamp high to low by changing the earth of the lights, as the Parabolics only have a single bulb for both when I turn my headlights on low beam is always on even when high beam is on, no need for any relays or miles of wiring, the high beam plugs on the inside lights are unmodded.

cheers for that! Handy to know for when I tackle this mod myself sometime over the next few months...

If possible i want to get both the low & high beams to be on when you flick to high-beam like you, this is how the paras opperate as standard after all!

akko
03-02-2004, 02:53 PM
Now i'm really confused, was speaking to my local dealer today concerning pricing for parabolics for my magna....apparently the units with a seperate indicator part cannot be installed into a TJ, these are some $100+ cheaper than the one piece jobs, but only the one piece jobs are suitable for the conversion apparently...

anyone car to comment on this and explain why this might be the case?

I personally cant see why this would be the case given that the standard Exec headlights are two piece jobs...hmmmm

BOosted' BOoya
03-02-2004, 02:57 PM
witchme has a TJ with 2 piece para's :roll:

they' just f--kin with you.

Killbilly
03-02-2004, 02:59 PM
They're lying..they want your money

DVS
03-02-2004, 03:43 PM
They are full of shit, I have a TH the panel work is the same as the TJ and I used the two piece and they fitted just fine, you will find that the person you spoke to is just a parts salesperson and probably never done a mod in his life. I have had this problem before went to one Mitsi parts place and were less than helpfull, no that won't fit ect even though I know it would, so I went elsewhere and got a very diffrent answer.

akko
03-02-2004, 04:49 PM
settle down fellas, i'm sure the guy was just trying to help and all i'm looking for is a little clarification...no need to slag him off, the guy has treated me great with everything else i've bought from mitsu to date!

cheers

DVS
03-02-2004, 04:51 PM
No offence ment but still he should know what he's talking about

DaJaJa
04-02-2004, 02:47 PM
can you change the headlight 'glass piece' and replace it with a clear one.. so it looks kinda parabolic?

Killbilly
04-02-2004, 03:40 PM
can you change the headlight 'glass piece' and replace it with a clear one.. so it looks kinda parabolic?

No, unless they're multi-parabolic lights the front glass must have those diffusers *for lack of a better term* in the glass.

akko
04-03-2004, 07:43 AM
Fitted my parabolics overnight....fitting 1-piece parabolics (from a VR-X) into a TJ Exec is NOT easy by any means, took two of us the best part of 3-hours and i'm still yet to get them wired up correctly.

I did test DVS' suggestion of how to wire them up and that will work a treat, just need to buy some more headlamp plugs like he did so I don't have to cut the existing wiring harness!

I also need to get some parts to mount and wire up the parker globes.

Hopefully I should have everything sussed by the weekend, but until then they look fantastic as is!

DVS
04-03-2004, 04:55 PM
glad I could help

akko
04-03-2004, 10:11 PM
After getting some headlamp plugs from Supercheap this evening...

With the help of my friends down at Alberts Car Stereo in Myaree (Perth, WA) I've now got both my high and low beams functioning and wired identical to DVS and are working a treat.

Next step is getting the parkers (http://members.westnet.com.au/akko81/vrx-parker-assembly.jpg) in which should be easy (i'm going to use some PIAA globes), just ran out of time to do it tonight unfortuantely!

Again, thankyou to all those who have replied to this thread and offered advice, especially DVS and in the earlier part WTCHME.

cheers guys.

Phonic
05-03-2004, 05:58 AM
ahhh man now you made me wanna do this convertion, but I can't afford it at the moment :(

Redav
05-03-2004, 07:12 AM
So, what did you have to buy extra and what's the wiring schematic like? I still need to fix mine. I got a fix from someone else but for some reason it only works for one side :?

akko
05-03-2004, 07:48 AM
Pic: Akko's Paras
http://members.westnet.com.au/akko81/akko-paras.jpg

akko
05-03-2004, 07:54 AM
So, what did you have to buy extra and what's the wiring schematic like? I still need to fix mine. I got a fix from someone else but for some reason it only works for one side :?

I bought these from Supercheap:
2x NIGHTVISION (Automotive GLOBES and Accessories) - Pigtail Socket, 3 wire connector to suit sealed beams and flasher units. (P/N: 53-23416)

The existing black plug off of the back of the standard magna headlights is for the three prong double-filiment globe that they have, looking at this plug one of the two outside connectors is your constant positive. As the paras only have two prong globes and not three, what you do is connect your constant positive to one of these and connect the second of the two prongs on the back of the globe to ground/earth.

Simple as that... the inner globe on each side does not need the wiring to be changed at all, DVS please correct me if this is wrong in any way.

Hope this helps.

akko
05-03-2004, 08:08 AM
I bought these from Supercheap:
2x NIGHTVISION (Automotive GLOBES and Accessories) - Pigtail Socket, 3 wire connector to suit sealed beams and flasher units. (P/N: 53-23416)


Oh, and the reason I bought these is so that I didn't have to cut any of the wires from the existing headlamp wiring harness, I simply piggy-backed this plug off of the existing one, connecting only the wires I needed from the existing plug. i.e. only the one that is the constant positive.

Hope that makes sense?

akko
05-03-2004, 08:36 AM
Pic: Back of outside parabolic headlamp (low beam).
http://members.westnet.com.au/akko81/vrx-headlamp.jpg

Green - connect to an earthing point in your vehicle's engine bay.
Red - connect to the constant positive from your existing headlamp plug.

Hope this helps.

Redav
05-03-2004, 10:37 AM
Hope that makes sense?

I think it does. No cutting is the good solution. What I've got at the moment is just some wires going between the plugs. Just need to swap one to an earth. The one near the battery works fine but the other one doesn't. Don't know why. Mind you, I only spent 10 mins figuring it out. Shall spend more time on it when I get home.

Cheers.

akko
06-03-2004, 05:55 PM
Ended up recycling my old parkers, heaps easier given it mean't I could reuse the existing wiring, plug and globes from my old magna headlamps!

I simply removed the barrel of the globe holder which in my 1-piece VR-X paras that I got from bogus was doubling as the parker "blank" and stuffed my existing parker globe holder assembly into the bracket, a tight fit - good enough to hold it there too without need to glue anything meaning it can be removed at any time should the bulbs/globes need to be replaced or the standard headlights reinstalled etc.

DaJaJa
06-04-2005, 04:00 PM
does anybody have a diagram of how they wired up their parabolics??

akko
19-04-2005, 09:53 PM
If someone has a set of paras not in a car and would car to post picks here of the backs of them I might be able to help you out some more.

Shame all my old images/diagrams are now broken links.