Hey everyone, im so excited i cant hold it in.
In the next few weeks, i will be undertaking the biggest mod of my life.I will be hauling out the old, leaking 3.0 donk, and replacing it with a 3.5. I know where i can get one with warranty for $500. I am really looking forward to this as the extra power will be a buzz.
Thanks for puttin up with me.
Chris

good luck!!!

to save time and hassles, keep the 3 litre ecu and loom in the car as is, and hook it up to the 3.5 and the car will run, a little rich but it will run. Get yourself a piggyback ecu and you will get it singing like a dream!

I know someone had a nightmare putting the 3.5 litre loom and ecu in a TE because of the lock modules, or immobiliser or something along those lines. Threw the old ecu in and the car ran straight away, but as i said a little rich

hahah i was expecting a massive twin turbo covnersion ready to break the new fwd record or something for a magna, hahah, well have fun with the 3.5l engine,

hehe its good fun! i take it ur not doin it urself??? trust me its a bit of a headache to do it all ur self cos i changed the wiring loom and keys and comp.... all of it really but it started like a dream :D mind u i need a new engine mount againt but hey its a big improvement have fun :cool:

yeah, i will be doin it myself, or woth my mate, eho i helped change his engine, and from an auto to a manual in his vk.....:confused:

Its ok though, 3 out of 4 cars i have had will have had the engine out of them. I guess i am somewhat of an experienced person.
thanks for everyones posititive comments.
Chris

ummm isn't the 3.0 L and the 3.5L the other way around?
ie the gearbox on the driver side on 3.0l and on 3.5L its on passenger side?
which means the mounts are all wrong??
oh well have fun...

He means the 3.5L from the 3rd gen lol

ummm isn't the 3.0 L and the 3.5L the other way around?
ie the gearbox on the driver side on 3.0l and on 3.5L its on passenger side?
which means the mounts are all wrong??
oh well have fun...
Only if you're talking about the 2nd gen 3.0L

lol or doesn he mean the 3.5L from the debonair?? ;)

come on guys assume common sense.

Anyways as someone who themselves has pulled out an engine to replace it i know how huge an effort it is. 3 days (shouldve been 2 but was ****ing around) and i've never been so dirty and exhausted. Worst bit is how many tiny cuts you pick up, and they get so dirty. It's ok though i got a mad immune system.

Peace yo

']He means the 3.5L from the 3rd gen lol

sorry to steal thred, but your car looks like a rexy in your avatar...

btw good luck, apprently there is not tooo much difference in power, but the 3.5 has a bit more torque, good luck:)

btw good luck, apprently there is not tooo much difference in power, but the 3.5 has a bit more torque, good luck:)

quite a bit more torque actually, nearly 25% more, which means a big difference in the shape of the power curve.

quite a bit more torque actually, nearly 25% more, which means a big difference in the shape of the power curve.

its definatly noticable, i went from a 3.0L auto to a 3.0L manual and i thought that was good! then to a 3.5L manual and omg :cool:

good luck on ur mods:thumbsup:

My car is getting this conversion at the moment. As said, stick with the 3.0L ECU and loom (saves having to use the BEM from the 3.5 and having to reprogramme new keys etc...)

Try get the alternator, starter etc, from the 3.5 with the engine. I bought an engine without any ancillaries (hoping to make use of the 3.0L ones) but apparently the difference in block height doesn't allow them to line up properly on the 3.5. Although you can get away with it by modifying the brackets.

It's very worth doing this conversion if you pick up a motor for cheap. I'm using a 3.5 from a TJ sports/VRX, so that an increase of 23kW and more importantly 61Nm or torque.

Hmmm, doesn't the TE have the old 12v 3.0 v6? :/

Hmmm, doesn't the TE have the old 12v 3.0 v6? :/
my TE is 24v

Hmmm, doesn't the TE have the old 12v 3.0 v6? :/
No it doesn't, all 3rd gen 3.0L are 24v, only the 2nd gens had the 12v.

No it doesn't, all 3rd gen 3.0L are 24v, only the 2nd gens had the 12v.

oh yeah... thats right. Thanks for clearing that up. lol

good luck!!!

to save time and hassles, keep the 3 litre ecu and loom in the car as is, and hook it up to the 3.5 and the car will run, a little rich but it will run. Get yourself a piggyback ecu and you will get it singing like a dream!

I know someone had a nightmare putting the 3.5 litre loom and ecu in a TE because of the lock modules, or immobiliser or something along those lines. Threw the old ecu in and the car ran straight away, but as i said a little rich

Don't you mean it'll run a little lean as the 3.0 ECU is only programmed to inject amounts
of fuel for a lesser capacity engine. Mitsu engines run rich by default.

Don't you mean it'll run a little lean as the 3.0 ECU is only programmed to inject amounts
of fuel for a lesser capacity engine. Mitsu engines run rich by default.

3.5L had larger injectors, therefore must mean the 3L injectors were opened for longer than the 3.5L injectors were on the 3.5L

My Dad said he caught up with you and you up to no good ;)

Is it a TH motor or later? I have TJ cams sitting around doing nothing meant to be a slight improvement over the TH ones.

What r you doing with the old motor?

My car is getting this conversion at the moment. As said, stick with the 3.0L ECU and loom (saves having to use the BEM from the 3.5 and having to reprogramme new keys etc...)

Try get the alternator, starter etc, from the 3.5 with the engine. I bought an engine without any ancillaries (hoping to make use of the 3.0L ones) but apparently the difference in block height doesn't allow them to line up properly on the 3.5. Although you can get away with it by modifying the brackets.

It's very worth doing this conversion if you pick up a motor for cheap. I'm using a 3.5 from a TJ sports/VRX, so that an increase of 23kW and more importantly 61Nm or torque.

my alternator, starter motor all bolted up no problems

my alternator, starter motor all bolted up no problems

Yeah after a better look the starter motor went on without problems, but the Alternator needed some modifying to fit. There was a slight clearance issue due to the differnce in block height between the 3.0 and 3.5, but a spacer quicklly resolved that issue.

Interesting how your altenator went on without modification?!!!! :confused:

Yeah after a better look the starter motor went on without problems, but the Alternator needed some modifying to fit. There was a slight clearance issue due to the differnce in block height between the 3.0 and 3.5, but a spacer quicklly resolved that issue.

Interesting how your altenator went on without modification?!!!! :confused:

only drama's i had with my conversion was the dizzy not sparking enough but that was caz it was modified for the last engine. even all the haltec components connected up fine.

i was told somthing about the inner drive shaft not fitting aswell but that went in fine too.

3.5L had larger injectors, therefore must mean the 3L injectors were opened for longer than the 3.5L injectors were on the 3.5L

Or the they opened for the same ammount of time, and the larger size of the 3.5 injectors was enough to supply the larger fuel demand. :P

only drama's i had with my conversion was the dizzy not sparking enough but that was caz it was modified for the last engine. even all the haltec components connected up fine.

i was told somthing about the inner drive shaft not fitting aswell but that went in fine too.

Is that why you changed over to individual coils? Hows the car going now anyway? :D

Is that why you changed over to individual coils? Hows the car going now anyway? :D

yep,
that and the fact i was going to up the shot of nos and hopefully have this s/c on from raptor once its finished. so might has well get it out of the way and be able to handle the extra power then have to mess around with it later on

cars getting worse hahaha gearbox still causing me greif. its no fun havin to push it out of parks every day caz of no reverse hahaha

My Dad said he caught up with you and you up to no good ;)

Is it a TH motor or later? I have TJ cams sitting around doing nothing meant to be a slight improvement over the TH ones.

What r you doing with the old motor?

heh heh heh :badgrin: i'm not up to no good.
Im not sure what motor it is, but i will be stripping it down anyway and replacing all gaskets and seals. Dont want to put it in a have it leak. How much you want for the cams if it is a th motor? also, u still doin the throttle bodies?

:shock: what 3 days to swap a engine over?, it should only take a day or so!

heh heh heh :badgrin: i'm not up to no good.
Im not sure what motor it is, but i will be stripping it down anyway and replacing all gaskets and seals. Dont want to put it in a have it leak. How much you want for the cams if it is a th motor? also, u still doin the throttle bodies?
An intake plenum from EZ would be better than a flowed TB :)

Make sure if the 3.5 doesn't come with ancillaries, that it comes with all the ancillary brackets (more importantly the alternator bracket) as the difference in block height doesn't allow the 3.0 bracket to light up properly with the alternator. You can get around it by making an extension bracket, but easier if it bolts up first time.

Some people have had no problem with drivshafts lining up after fitting a 3.5, but I did (manual transmission). Wasn't a problem, but did require some modification.

you gotta get a halfshalft from the 3.5L also and i had to change all of my aircond lines, it was easier than changing the brackets!