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[TUFFTR]
16-05-2007, 01:42 PM
Somethings causing a pressure buildup and is spewing oil everywhere, when idling its fine, when driving, well, thats when oil comes out (from where yet i DONT know)
Just waiting for the car to cool down before i do a quick test.
PCV has been cleaned about 8K ago..

to anyone who is mechanicially minded, what else can i check on this thing to narrow down the possibilitys??

ADZA27
16-05-2007, 02:19 PM
where is it leaking from Paul? btw 3mm acrylic is the answer to your pm

[TUFFTR]
16-05-2007, 03:13 PM
where is it leaking from Paul? btw 3mm acrylic is the answer to your pm
hehe thanks man gonna get some tonight...
If you start the engine in P and let it, well, do its thing, there is no leak, none of the seals(i.e. cam) look to be leaking.

(coming from timing side of engine)
But when i go ona drive and come back, the crossmember is full of oil again, so its coming from somewhere, just going to do a few checks now on it (should of cooled down)

Btw just going to bunnings to get it (the 3mm perspex)

smooth2
16-05-2007, 03:24 PM
how'd that fg parcel shelf go or did u ditch the idea??

ADZA27
16-05-2007, 03:49 PM
Sounds like the Oil filter, you may have overtightened it which would cause it to leak under pressure.
the other thing is the cam seals.. although you would be able to see it leaking behind the timing cover underneath.
the other option of course is the sump gasket.

[TUFFTR]
16-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Sounds like the Oil filter, you may have overtightened it which would cause it to leak under pressure.
the other thing is the cam seals.. although you would be able to see it leaking behind the timing cover underneath.
the other option of course is the sump gasket.

Might be? Ill change the oil filter tomorrow and see how that goes but i know the rocker covers are fine as when the engine is running and the hoses are disconnected the PCV is sucking and the rocker cover one is blowing..

And smooth - ahh alot of cbf'ing as i know its a huge project, might go get some stuff for it tonight.

Ive made the FG shelf, just have to make the actuall thingy now

Ozzcaddy
16-05-2007, 06:46 PM
Have you checked the small outlet elbows on top of the rocker covers, to see if they are blocked. The front outlet hose leads to the PCV Valve, the rear (V6) hose leads to the air sensor.

I had pressure build up in my TS V6, that had blown oil seals, coming out of the middle of the oil cap, and some other areas. I found that the rear rocker cover outlet tube was totally blocked. Once I cleared that, everything was back to normal. Some carburettor cleaner and thin wire will do the job in clearing the blockage. I actually used long pipe cleaners.

[TUFFTR]
16-05-2007, 07:03 PM
Have you checked the small outlet elbows on top of the rocker covers, to see if they are blocked. The front outlet hose leads to the PCV Valve, the rear (V6) hose leads to the air sensor.

I had pressure build up in my TS V6, that had blown oil seals, coming out of the middle of the oil cap, and some other areas. I found that the rear rocker cover outlet tube was totally blocked. Once I cleared that, everything was back to normal. Some carburettor cleaner and thin wire will do the job in clearing the blockage. I actually used long pipe cleaners.

Couldnt get the rear one off but the front one was ok...ill try the rear tomorrow

Ozzcaddy
16-05-2007, 07:38 PM
']Couldnt get the rear one off but the front one was ok...ill try the rear tomorrow

All I did was cut the rubber hose off, as it was welded to the outlet pipe, cleaned out the blockage, and just bought another rubber hose from Mitsubishi. Bought the new hose first before cutting the old one off.

TSWAGS
17-05-2007, 12:28 PM
Make sure the old O ring is on the oil filter when you take it off, sometimes you can get stuck and when there is 2 on there the filter will leak oil. Pretty basic but worth double checking

[TUFFTR]
19-05-2007, 06:39 PM
Any other ideas here?

Madmagna
19-05-2007, 08:31 PM
Remove your dip stick a few inches and drive, if still leaking is not pressure build up.

Could be rear cam seal, under revs you get a lot more oil in the rear, could also be oil pressure switch leaking, again under higher pressure it may tend to squirt up a little.

Another culprit is the end carrier for the rear cam not being seated as well as the rocker cover gasket getting a twist in it when it was installed.

[TUFFTR]
20-05-2007, 05:59 PM
Remove your dip stick a few inches and drive, if still leaking is not pressure build up.

Could be rear cam seal, under revs you get a lot more oil in the rear, could also be oil pressure switch leaking, again under higher pressure it may tend to squirt up a little.

Another culprit is the end carrier for the rear cam not being seated as well as the rocker cover gasket getting a twist in it when it was installed.

Thanks Mal. Its on stands atm (nothing new really) So would it be a good idea to put it in D and give it a bit of a rev, so with one of the wheels off i could possibly see a leak?

Also another point is that the oil is coming from the front, then being flicked around some how :s

smooth2
20-05-2007, 06:41 PM
have u seen if it's dripping onto a belt or pulley then being flung around your bay?? my only useless thought.

[TUFFTR]
20-05-2007, 06:59 PM
have u seen if it's dripping onto a belt or pulley then being flung around your bay?? my only useless thought.

nah cant see anything at idle, the engine runs perfectly, no signs of leaks anywhere, but it is being flung around, as all belts are soaked in oil and its flung onto the sides..

such a wierd one.

Madmagna
20-05-2007, 07:37 PM
No need to risk the car leaping off the stands, clean it all (remeber water restrictions) and then hold 2500 - 3000 rpm for a while, keep an eye on temp though as you are standing still. If it is not leaking then then there will really be a mystery.

Other option, is get me to look.....

[TUFFTR]
21-05-2007, 07:32 AM
No need to risk the car leaping off the stands, clean it all (remeber water restrictions) and then hold 2500 - 3000 rpm for a while, keep an eye on temp though as you are standing still. If it is not leaking then then there will really be a mystery.

Other option, is get me to look.....

Yeah, its heading that way...
I'll keep you updated

[TUFFTR]
25-05-2007, 09:47 AM
im 99% sure its the oil pressure switch, i did replace it about 2 months ago though, it seems like the only logical place for it to be spurting out oil, and then hitting the driveshaft directly spinning it EVERYWHERE.

so if this dont fix it i dunno what will:)

manifesto
25-05-2007, 10:09 AM
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so if this dont fix it i dunno what will:)

duct tape and blutac?

or a DOHC conversion perhaps? just a thought fluffy :P:cool:

[TUFFTR]
25-05-2007, 08:12 PM
duct tape and blutac?

or a DOHC conversion perhaps? just a thought fluffy :P:cool:

lol dw you know my plans for the DOHC...
for now ill be extreamly happy with a working SOHC, or "sock" lol

btw, i want to change the tranny fluid, but ive heard *storys* about these transmissions blowing up soon after? are these just storys of stupid mechanics not knowing how to change oil or is this a "common" problem?

Madmagna
26-05-2007, 07:29 AM
As I said bring it over lol

Trans fluid is fine, make sure you use the mits trans fluid and you have it full and you will have no worries

[TUFFTR]
26-05-2007, 08:43 AM
As I said bring it over lol

Trans fluid is fine, make sure you use the mits trans fluid and you have it full and you will have no worries
hehe, gonna put in this oil switch when i get some time and all should be right...
yeah just thought id ask as i had a few people tell me not to service the trans fluid and just leave it.....but it slips gears SO bad when cold and i dont think its ever been changed:S

Lucifer
28-05-2007, 08:48 AM
']hehe, gonna put in this oil switch when i get some time and all should be right...
yeah just thought id ask as i had a few people tell me not to service the trans fluid and just leave it.....but it slips gears SO bad when cold and i dont think its ever been changed:S
Dude you shouldn't have to install a switch to make it work like it should, just take it to Mal you lazy bastard lol

[TUFFTR]
28-05-2007, 04:40 PM
Dude you shouldn't have to install a switch to make it work like it should, just take it to Mal you lazy bastard lol

its a 5 minute job! (took me a week though:))

Going to check one more thing tonight...thanks to Mal's guidance:cool:

Cocopopz
04-06-2007, 04:54 PM
happened to mine the two breathers on the rocker covers were blocked check them with some compresed air

[TUFFTR]
04-06-2007, 04:57 PM
happened to mine the two breathers on the rocker covers were blocked check them with some compresed air

Checked them mate and they are fine! Both blowing and sucking fine.
Atm the rear cam gear is off and so is the dizzy, Going to get the end cap seal replaced wednesday as it looked sus.

I PRAY TO GOD (even though im atheistlol) That this is the cause, every other seal looks fine, not leaking under pressure...

So yeah after wednesday we'll see how we go:D
If it works expect me at the next cruise:)

lima
04-06-2007, 05:00 PM
correct me if i'm wrong paul, but could this all have been fixed a bit quicker by visiting a mech? :P

TSWAGS
05-06-2007, 03:37 PM
Im sure it could have been, but then he wouldnt have learnt anything would he? Easy to give in and pay someone but I'd rather suss things out first and see if I could fix it.

[TUFFTR]
05-06-2007, 05:15 PM
Im sure it could have been, but then he wouldnt have learnt anything would he? Easy to give in and pay someone but I'd rather suss things out first and see if I could fix it.

Yeah its definatly been a good learning curve. before doing all this crap i was like wheres an exhaust manifold gasket?
I'll see how things go tomorrow

[TUFFTR]
20-06-2007, 08:30 PM
WELL..

Replaced the end cap seal and all was well, as i was bolting it all back up, one of the bolts for the end cap snapped suddenly, i wasnt cross threading it or anything..the bolt got harder and harder to turn then went soft like butter and snapped!:redface:

Needles to say i was pretty peeved..
So mech came out and removed the bolt for me which was awesome, he reckons the bolt was just crap and just gone soft (or whatever you call it when a bolt is just crap)

So put it all back together and SO FAR theres no oil leaks...:gtfo:
So what COULD of happened is that crappy bolt holding the end cap on could of just not actually sealed the end cap on properly and left enough space for oil to leak through..

I'll give it a few days before i jump for joy but yeah its good driving something that wasnt biult in 1980..Although the faithful XD falcon which ive been driving has been good, despite no heater, good ol fords:)

So yeah...And those are the days of our lives

lima
21-06-2007, 08:58 AM
so your car's back on the road for another week or so before something else breaks? :)

coldamus
21-06-2007, 02:09 PM
If the work you carried out did not fix it, it may be the valve stem seals, especially if the car has done a lot of kms.

My 1st gen. used to do the same. No sign of oil leaks when engine stopped or when idling. But when stuck in traffic for a while, oil would come out, presumably through the oil filler on the rocker cover and would drip on the generator drive belt and get sprayed all over the underside of the bonnet and the passenger side of the engine bay.

It would also blow clouds of smoke intermittently, seemingly at random but mostly when stuck idling it traffic.

I used to go through a litre of oil a week. Since replacing the valve stem seals, it no longer uses oil and never blows smoke.

[TUFFTR]
21-06-2007, 02:32 PM
If the work you carried out did not fix it, it may be the valve stem seals, especially if the car has done a lot of kms.

My 1st gen. used to do the same. No sign of oil leaks when engine stopped or when idling. But when stuck in traffic for a while, oil would come out, presumably through the oil filler on the rocker cover and would drip on the generator drive belt and get sprayed all over the underside of the bonnet and the passenger side of the engine bay.

It would also blow clouds of smoke intermittently, seemingly at random but mostly when stuck idling it traffic.

I used to go through a litre of oil a week. Since replacing the valve stem seals, it no longer uses oil and never blows smoke.

I have reco heads mate.

o.



And it still leaks oil!:bowrofl:
Lima - so umm....name me some things that "break" on my car:s
last time i looked nothing had "broken"
thats not really funny either...like taking a dig at my car...?

Gemini
21-06-2007, 02:48 PM
Just go nuts on it with gasket goo lol

[TUFFTR]
21-06-2007, 02:52 PM
Just go nuts on it with gasket goo lol

i would if i knew where it was coming from.

its going away now to hibernate for a few months..
im thinking of just ripping the engine out and stripping it, replacing all seals again, but this time not in the homo position of in the car.
then i can save for the DOHC and by xmas it should all be in.

btw. This SOHC will be FS. and has reco heads on it, so if anyones keen gimme a bell.

lima
21-06-2007, 03:13 PM
']Lima - so umm....name me some things that "break" on my car:s
last time i looked nothing had "broken"
thats not really funny either...like taking a dig at my car...?

Easy paul, i didn't mean anything by it. Just seems like the car has been off the road for a long time is all, you've had a fair bit of bad luck ever since the heads went.
No offense intended champ, sorry to hear the problem hasn't been fixed.