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MAGNA
29-01-2004, 05:34 PM
I need to choose what type of engine to fit into my car. I have a choice of the following:

2.5 litre quad cam
3.0 litre quad cam
3.0 litre quad cam twin turbo

The benefit of the 2.5 litre quad cam is that it can be registered easily, the 3.0 might be a problem as it puts out more power than the standard one. 3.0 twin turbo I wouldn't even bother telling drt about it.

TZABOY
29-01-2004, 05:38 PM
The 2.5 litre, is that the jap import out of a galant???? If it is they rev their tits off. Would you consider the 2.5 litre twin turbo??? might have a bit more pick me up than the 3.0 litre twin turbo.

Redav
29-01-2004, 05:47 PM
3.0l TT.

More torque = more fun.

Asylum
29-01-2004, 05:59 PM
3.0 mivec... or even 2.5 mivec....

anything that will make tonnes of power without hissing like a turbo or anything.... very sleeper

CYPHER-VRX
29-01-2004, 06:14 PM
3.0l TT.
More torque = more fun.

YEP :!: :D

dsfsdf
29-01-2004, 06:17 PM
fix that bloody ding in your door

MAGWGN
29-01-2004, 08:13 PM
fix that bloody ding in your doorLOLOLOLOLOL :lol:

bLAdEbLA
29-01-2004, 08:49 PM
The twin turbo would make it a bastard to drive on the street. Which is exactly opposite of what the magna is built for.

Mitsiman
29-01-2004, 08:57 PM
Go the N/A 3.0 the twin turbo is a great option but licensing could be a problem in the older cars.

Redav
29-01-2004, 09:09 PM
Now, Dave. Stop being sensible. :lol:

Big Daz
29-01-2004, 10:04 PM
Id go the quad cam 3.0 N/A, and do some serious engine work to it...But keep if N/A..

Daz

Killbilly
30-01-2004, 12:13 AM
You wont get the 2.5 in there as it's mounted the wrong way around.

Mitsiman
30-01-2004, 06:57 AM
I'm sorry let me rephrase

Go the 3.0 DOHC Twin Turbo. It would be an awesome improvement, car will be insane to drive. Give me a ring when you are doing it so you can get an LSD, suspension, computer, brakes and all the other gear necessary so we can keep it on the road straight and then get it engineered so the cops will let it pass.

Definitly my choice of engine swap - twin turbo's are great for smoking the tyres and going awfully fast. I can talk from experience.

:D

vlad
30-01-2004, 09:04 AM
I need to choose what type of engine to fit into my car. I have a choice of the following:

2.5 litre quad cam
3.0 litre quad cam
3.0 litre quad cam twin turbo

The benefit of the 2.5 litre quad cam is that it can be registered easily, the 3.0 might be a problem as it puts out more power than the standard one. 3.0 twin turbo I wouldn't even bother telling drt about it.

Interested to know who you are sourcing the engines from as I'm
interested in a 6G72 DOHC as well.

Glenn
30-01-2004, 09:47 AM
3.0 twin turbo I wouldn't even bother telling drt about it.

it would be nice to have but after all the work and $$$ you have poured into your car - you'd be screwed if you an an accident, or someone else ran into you, and you havent told them you have a TT, you wouldnt have a leg to stand on. sorry - just being sensible.

id go the 3.0 quadcam, and im sure with some slight mods it would kick some serious ass.. good luck

MAGNA
02-02-2004, 09:28 AM
I'm definately thinking the twin-turbo, then i'll go bigger brakes and get the thing engineered (check of brakes, fitting, etc etc) which should all be fairly straight forward.

heydude
02-02-2004, 05:29 PM
3.0l quad cam.

mattstar
02-02-2004, 07:05 PM
guys as i posted in another thread i think u will find these engines are dohc motors not quad cams, if they are referred to as quad cams by the same reasoning that would make the magna twin cam.....

MAGWGN
02-02-2004, 08:09 PM
they are a v motor. so there are two cams per bank. quad cam, double over head cam, they still have four cams all up. who really cares what you call it!

Redav
02-02-2004, 08:43 PM
guys as i posted in another thread i think u will find these engines are dohc motors not quad cams, if they are referred to as quad cams by the same reasoning that would make the magna twin cam.....

And the Mivec engine is DOHC / twin cam.

Killbilly
02-02-2004, 10:11 PM
A V6 DOHC would be Quadcam as there are 4 cams.

Double OverHead Cam = 2 cams per bank
2x2 = 4

Quad = 4

Quadcam = 4 Cams.

It's not really that hard to realise that they're the same thing....Different terms for the same thing.

mattstar
03-02-2004, 04:55 AM
A V6 SOHC would be DOHC as there are 2 cams.

Single OverHead Cam = 1 cam per bank
1x2 = 2

double = 2

DOHC = 2 Over Head Cams.

Killbilly by your reasoning our magnas are DOHC as they have a total of 2 cams which are OHC....

Either way doesnt matter i was just pointing this out as a lot of people looking at say a magna vs a camry see toyotas advertising stating quadcam and mitsubishi's SOHC. This is misleading..

I will stop being trivial now.

Redav
03-02-2004, 07:41 AM
Killbilly by your reasoning our magnas are DOHC as they have a total of 2 cams which are OHC....

No it doesn't. DOHC is specifically aimed at the heads of a bank of cylinders. Quad cam is specifically aimed at a number of cams in the engine.

That's why Dave is talking about a twin throttle body, not a dual throttle body or double throttle body which would be like Booyas setup. I reckon dave should call it a siamese throttle body :lol:

Mitsiman
03-02-2004, 08:28 AM
Here is teh correct terminology.

Firstly when referring to SOHC or DOHC etc they are always referring to the number of camshafts per cylidner head. Regardless of whether it is a 4, 6 or 8 cyl engine.

There fore to clarify

SOHC refers to one camshaft per cylinder head
DOHC refers to two camshafts per cylidner head

A Qaud cam engine is of course a V engien with two cams per cylidner head and origonally came from the use of ferrari's etc where they ran factory V8 engines with DOHC cylinder heads.

This goes across teh board for all vehicle manafacturers.

All Mitsubishi V6 engines are generally V6 SOHC models except for the rare ones like the 3000gt engines DOHC, pajero incl EVO DOHC (Some models) etc.

Mivec engiens were origonally DOHC Mivec, but mitsubishi is pulling a swifty on everyone with the new ralliart lancer by calling it a mivec engine.

This is not techincally true as the mivec engine is variable valve and camshaft timing on a DOHC engine. The new ralliart 4G69 engine is actually a SOHC with variable timing only on the camshaft, not variable lift hence it is more like the VVT - Variable Valve Timing found on some toyota and Ford XR6 vehicles. Not anything like the origonal Mivec engines.

But they are banking no the reputation of the mivec and will make some goods sales from it.

Killbilly
03-02-2004, 08:41 AM
A V6 SOHC would be DOHC as there are 2 cams.

Single OverHead Cam = 1 cam per bank
1x2 = 2

double = 2

DOHC = 2 Over Head Cams.

Killbilly by your reasoning our magnas are DOHC as they have a total of 2 cams which are OHC....

Either way doesnt matter i was just pointing this out as a lot of people looking at say a magna vs a camry see toyotas advertising stating quadcam and mitsubishi's SOHC. This is misleading..

I will stop being trivial now.

HAHAHHAHH Think for a second.

I said 2 cams PER BANK!

Which means our SOHC's have 1 cam per bank...so by what I was saying you could call them Twin cam if you wished (tho that terminology is usually only used on 4 cylinders)

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're dumb, then to open it and prove it"

MAGNA
03-02-2004, 08:44 AM
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're dumb, then to open it and prove it"
Slightly off topic - but that's a brilliant quote (read: add to favourites).

I'm definately heading down the twin-turbo path I think. I'll be finding more out Saturday and taking photographs. :D

Killbilly
03-02-2004, 08:52 AM
Cool MAGNA! I cant wait to see it done :)

Hey this might give you some sort of insight into the work involved:

http://www.fastmagna.com/feature/feature4_part2.html

MAGNA
03-02-2004, 08:54 AM
I've got a the v6 engine to start with so it'll almost be a bolt-in conversion apart from the wiring and computer (which might also be straight forward).

That guy went from a four to a six, hence new engine mounts and so fourth.

Killbilly
03-02-2004, 09:47 AM
Oh yeah I realised that...just thought you might want to see that article.

Also notice the drive shaft issue...we will both be facing that one..

Madmagna
03-02-2004, 04:45 PM
KB are you not using your factory box, again you will be fine then with drive shafts as the gear box is not moving.
The 4 - 6 conversion would have been a lot easier if the v6 front members and v6 shafts had been used I am sure.

Killbilly
03-02-2004, 05:41 PM
On the page Mal, he said that he sourced driveshafts from the SOHC V6...and they were too long.

I thought it strange too..but I believe he'd be telling the truth.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
04-02-2004, 04:08 PM
2.5 if it's a quad cam.
better economy/power mix.

Killbilly
04-02-2004, 06:27 PM
2.5 wont fit.

Verada91
01-03-2004, 08:19 PM
hey mate
this is a bit off topic...but i noticed that u got a bodykit for u verada
i got a 1991 verada xi and have being kinda looking for one but havent been successful
whered u get urs from
cheers mate

Verada91
01-03-2004, 08:20 PM
im new at this hah