Okay I wasn't going to do this yet but everyone has been pestering me so I am giving everyone some news.

But before I start let me make this part clear - the twin TB system is not going to be cheap, nor is it going to be suitable for the everday driver. this is geared towards the more serious owner who is going to have something visually different, possibly nitrous and plans on doing some fairly good mods to the car. If this i snot you - then stick with the high flowed throttle body system.

Now that I have got that part off my chest,

We just ordered threeof our new throttle bodie systems from the states. These are brand new CNC machined throttle bodies with three options

(A) Cheapest - twin 52mm throttle body
(B) Dearer - twin 58mm throttle body
(C) Best - twin 58mm throttle body with in built nitrous passages (This one got your interest)

But we will start at the beginning.

The basic kit is a parallel twin 52mm throttle body. We will be cutting and manafacturing a new high flowing designed intake manifold top half only, adapting the new twin unit on and utilising factory TPS switch, Idle speed control.

Cruise control and traction control we will be working on at a later date. They are planned to be adapted in the future.

The upgrade is essentially the same thing but using a twin 58mm unit for larger air volumes.

The final kit though using the same throttle body CNC machined but has factory fitted Nitrous Channels built into it. This mean you simply hook up your fuel and NOS lines to the throttle body, fit your jets into it internally and off you go. With the new designed manifold we will also ensure full air flow into all cylinders.

Of course all of these will require a piggy back computer but will be hooked up via a single air inlet hose so MAF sensor gets to stay to help with tuning.

Side Note - our current cold air kits would have to be modified to accept this system.

We are using these designs as our starting point although we still may end up making our own CNC designs but these are our starting points.

I will try to keep people updated but if things go well we should have one of these ready sometime in the next eight weeks.

Feel free to ask away an questions!

Just to clear up for anyone else who mightn't be sure, what sort of gains would we expect from each?

Because Im VERY interested!

how would this system be more effective then say, my system where i have one 62?mm throttle body each side of the plennum, allowing equal air flow between each cylinder.

would the end cylinder in your case still be somewhat starved of air compared to the front cylinders??

Because we are going to redesign the intake manifold to setup an equal air flow to all cylinders and most importantly

- you won't need a haltech to run it. It will run on teh standard computer with a piggy back ecu only and be compatible with auto transmissions and stock sensors.

This is being designed for the majority of owners who don't need to go to the extreme of fitting aftermarket programmable computers but piggy back systems like the greddy instead.

my system should run with a piggyback tho.

:D

will this bolt up to std intake manifold with out any mods ? and will it be ok to run stock computer with these t\b ? and we looking at more gains than a hi flo t\b

will this bolt up to std intake manifold with out any mods ? and will it be ok to run stock computer with these t\b ? and we looking at more gains than a hi flo t\b

bah!

he said it will bolt up.

he said you need a piggyback/aftermarket ECU

he didnt not say how much 'improvement' is to be made, but im sure it would def. be more then the 'high flowed' unit.. or it just defeats the purpose :lol:

I do not have a HP gain yet as remember it hasn't been fitted to a car ys it will improve it but no I don't have hard figures yet.

and to clarify - booya your system can't be used with a piggy back as you have two throttle bodie son each end but only one MAF sensor. The only way you could possibly do it was to run two MAF sensors and somehow shaer teh signal and at this stage there is no piggy back that can do that.

Hence why we are looking at this system to enable both options.

oh, is the the complication :lol: :lol:

well. id be damned! cheers for that dave. 8)

now i know myself :badgrin:

Not a problem always happy to impress with people with my vast resovoir of knowledge and useless facts.

Now where were my key's again - keep seeming to lose them. :? Ok found them but where the hell is my damn wallet ...........

but where the hell is my damn wallet ...........

i would offer you mine, but.. bloody hell, its still empty from magna meet! :lol: :lol:

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but where the hell is my damn wallet ...........

i would offer you mine, but.. bloody hell, its still empty from magna meet! :lol: :lol:[/quote:e422a258f1]

No, its empty coz you are never happy with what you purchased 3 months ago and always want something better 3 months later ;)

This I am seriously intersted in - especially with a nos hookup ;)

Manual

Dave,

By improvements, I didnt mean HP gain, I was meaning more will it aid low end, middle, top etc?

Improvements will always be mid range and top end. Won't do anything for low rpm as it massivly improves air flow but with the combo of new manifold design, we should be able to retain the same low rpm torque the vehicle already has.

at this stage we aer still hypothesizing

at this stage we aer still hypothesizing

Yep, understood :D

Well Im still interested for the DOHC later on, might do that and the cams I was talking to you about at the same time.

I know that most of your customers are 3rd Gen owners, but would this twin throttle body set up suit a TS V6 engine as well??? And i assume you don't need to run NOS, but it's there if you want it. right?

Yes we should be able to hook it up on the earlier generation without any problems very similiar setup

Al-la LS-1 throttle body, Where will the ISC motor be attached and will the egr still be able to be fitted (for legal purposes)

Yes we should be able to hook it up on the earlier generation without any problems very similiar setup

Just turn it around :p lol

These are the things we will need to machine and adapt.