Well i know it goes the same way a least.
Ive found a front cut off a Galant VR4 and well
If a 3L DOHC N/A conversion is going to cost *around* $5K
And i get a 2.5TT Front cut for say, Under $4K, what would be the best option? i have the whole gearbox conversion in my shed ready to go minus a clutch and this front cut includes ECU

and another Q, we all know the 3L conversion has been done but who has done the 2.5TT conversion?
wouldnt mind some doseing action (joking joking)
so yeah.....i know where i stand with the 6G72 N/A conversion but what bout this one...just throwing it out there

thats one thing i wont be copying you one :P
you said i copied you re: rims lol :D
hehehe
nah like i keep telling you, get a new car :P hehehe
would be a fun conversion, interested in seeing how it goes!

if it's from the galant it's 3rd gen orientation. I think the earlier turbo 4 may fit one of the 2nd gens if it follows mitsu's other designs.

There were 6g72TT 1/2 cuts for about a k more than mine available. Just do it Paul... i dont have the income and it seems ill be doing uni forever... im pre-exam im gunna fail point right now. If there's not enough room high or low mount the turbos...

It'll have more torque than the 6A13TT.

Either way i'd be getting a complete aftermarket computer like me though...

I'd think of your insurance first bro, as soon as you put a snail shell under the bonnet you're going to get into expensive territory :( Go with the 6G74... others have done it and proved it successful and can help you.

I'd think of your insurance first bro, as soon as you put a snail shell under the bonnet you're going to get into expensive territory :( Go with the 6G74... others have done it and proved it successful and can help you.

Insurance doesnt bother me mate.
The idea for the smaller 2.5LTT came into my head a while ago but never thought about it, i mean if it fitted right in...then yeah wouldnt be bad, pretty wure with the 6g72 DOHC TT I *may* need some firewall surgery and heard alot of things about bigger brakes and such.....cbf....
Any numbers of some import jap wreckers in NSW?

Why don't you see if you can have a look at it. Take a tape measure with you and take measurements, probably the first ones to take would be the positions of the engine mounts relative to each other. If they are and different to your current ones it immediately becomes too expensive as I'm sure you're aware ;).
Next best bet would be to take measurements of the 'box' that would enclose the engine to see if it will fit, remembering that some parts could possibly be realigned or moved(yay, hammer time :P). Also you would need to check that the drive shafts are located in pretty much the same position as the maggie ones.

But go the 6G72 TT :P you know you want to

Mate, if you want something different, just measure up a 350 blown chev and be done with it! - with RWD of course :bowrofl:

Seriously, take it slow. Work out the pros & cons of all your options. DOHC, DOHCTT and this new 6A13TT idea. Also don't forget the other options of sticking with your engine and just doing some head work etc. - also the option of saving your $$$ and getting another car. Maybe a newer Magna, or something different.

Just take it slow and make sure it's what YOU want.
JET-BLK managed to get his DOHC conversion rego'ed here in Victoria. I'd ask VicRoads and a couple of compliance places first before you go sticking in a turbo tho.

Good luck with whatever you decide. :thumbsup:

im pretty sure the motor is actually the oposite way around in the galants like the 3rd gens. in fact, didnt a guy on the forums put one in his Verada?

like GRD said, take it slow...make sure everything will fit. the 6G72 will be the easiest option IMO. plenty of people have done it so there is a bit of help there....if you want be be original...it might cost you more lol.

and you say that insurance doesnt bother you....how much do you actually want to pay per year?

and i would DEFINIATLY make sure that any engine swap you do is totally legal, so make sure you ring Vicroads, and also chat to an engineer. i can give you a number if you like for one near me??

OR i could do what MADTS has done and made his TS RWD with a 300hp Buick motor lol.

Was just an idea, obviously no one has done it so not gonna bother trying...
Im positive i saw a configuration where it was the other way around...ah well...

Paul, looking at this most hilarious thread and your signature, i have made the following evaluation;

You should invest your money into something more worth while.
Just take your car to a mechanic who has a shop (not someone who does the work at your house) and just fix up the rims which i said I'd help you with.

If you are keen and you a willing to sacrifice all your money into the car just be aware of how much you are going to fork out.... especially when pouring funds into performance. I'd hate to see you in debt just because you were trying change the engine and/or turbo your car.

']OR i could do what MADTS has done and made his TS RWD with a 300hp Buick motor lol.

Was just an idea, obviously no one has done it so not gonna bother trying...
Im positive i saw a configuration where it was the other way around...ah well...
Who had the first gen with a turbo motor in it...

yes you could fit that engine into your car , i have been offerd the same thing , i think you may have to redesighn one of your engine mounts , but i think it can be done , the problem is finding some one who will , just make sure as posted before your gear box is on the same side as yours , cheers norm

Who had the first gen with a turbo motor in it...

Like I've mentioned about 100 times before, it was Sogg who has/had a red first gen that he did the 4G63BT conversion on, and it was "BOLT IN" apart from making a hybrid clutch, but it cost about 7K all up, engineered etc, then he busted the modded VR4 box and had to get his Magna box put back in (that had lasted a few months the last I talked to him which was probably in the Triasic peroid).

Tbutcher had ordered a half-cut of a 6A12TT to go into his japspec 3RD gen, dunno if it ever happened, I know the evo brembo's and 20's went on and god did it look bizzare. I think it was Meansolara who did a MIVEC conversion on his... Solara.. but apart from that I know not of others who have done other conversions (apart from the DOHC). I was going to do a 4G63 conversion but wrote off my TP GT so I did some research on that.

The 6A12TT WILL NOT FIT AND IF ANYONE ELSES ASKS THIS I WILL ****ING KILL THEM. 6A12TT 2L V6 is the 3rd gen orientation, you need your box to the left (when looking at the car) which is 6G TT territory. Plus like AJ said, you'll have more torque from the bigger capacity engine, and we all know how much half a litre can make (as in the 3L and 3.5L Magna v6's). 4G63BT 4 cyl turbo will fit into a 4cyl Magna, and would be easier than a 4cyl to V6 conversion but like everyone has said, make sure you find out your insurance, it could be 4K a year and then you really WOULD care because you couldn't afford to use your car because your premium would be about the same.

See pics below maggots.

http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/vision/images/ben_vr4_engine.jpg
VR4 Galant 4cyl turbo 4G63BT.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/6d/300px-VR4-5.jpg
VR4 Galant V6 twin-turbo 6A12TT.

Please for the LOVE OF GOD, can NO ONE bring this up EVER AGAIN??!! It's almost as bad as "Why doesn't my pod give me 300kW ATW????"

:tantrum: :flame:


And just for good measure :dancin:

/end.rant++

Is it "that time of month" for you Nick :bowrofl: Hahahaha

(nice write up though)

Is it "that time of month" for you Nick :bowrofl: Hahahaha

(nice write up though)


LOL i was thinking the same thing!!!

Who had the first gen with a turbo motor in it...

sogg did. and was trying to sell it. not sure if he did. here's his bay

Thanks nick maybe i wont ask any more questions ever again...

also i did say 6A13TT not 12...

']Thanks nick maybe i wont ask any more questions ever again...

also i did say 6A13TT not 12...
Good!

haha.. got the 6G74TT man!

']Thanks nick maybe i wont ask any more questions ever again...

Be done with you boy!

Uhhh, I'd like to say, my bad - I was totally and utterly wrong but I guess I needed to go spastic, you DID say 6A13TT which is the same orientation as the 1st and 2nd gen motors, which means this engine transplant may indeed work, also going with you on this is the fact that the 6A12TT is only a 2L TT whereas the 6A13 is a 2.5L TT so you are loosing 500cc of displacement BUT picking up a couple of slug's at the same time.

One thing that may hinder your progress is the fact that setting up a turbo conversion will cost muchos pesos, and from what I've read the stock VR4's run a low/mid 14 with a 2.5L and the 6G-DOHC converted magnas run high 14's so you may infact be paying much more for some "Pssshh" and about the same go - not only will you need custom shiney 'i-have-a-small-weiner' intercooler piping, greif with the gearbox, possible grief with the turbo's actually fitting (and not melting your firewall or radiator, last the most likely), and most of all, actually finding someone with the balls big enough to start AND finish such a conversion.

Dude, the DOHC 6G is a cheaper and more worthwhile conversion, why not do this? the TT front cut costs more, will cost you more in comprehensive insurance, give you more grief with the possibilities of problems (turbos do go 'snap, crackle & pop' sometimes) whereas the tried and proven DOHC method produces great results for most probably half or less of the cost.

Now go, fly, be free.. :gtfo:

Well at least i wasn't dreaming.
Put some glasses on next time before you have a good ol' rant orighty:D
Was simply a question which came into my mind which i thought i'd ask cause no one else has..
the 6G72 DOHC is the most likely candidate, and if all goes well, the joint 3 minutes away from me should be getting one in in a month..

I'll wait till they actually have it before i say anything else :)

i didnt see backflips as good as that in the olympics

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i3/0307_1mg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_0307/article.html%3FpopularArticle&h=512&w=782&sz=107&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=F2Ab9WLuS8AmuM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3D6a12%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den %26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

btw paul i cant see one of these motors being any cheaper to put in than a 72TT, also you should probably do me a favour a measure the clearance of the turbo's, remember we haven't had someone with a 6cylinder do this just a 4.

i didnt see backflips as good as that in the olympics

Hey, I'll admit where I'm wrong.

I wonder if anyone knows the weight of a 72vsA13, wonder if the TT is any lighter..

Being a completely different engine, and turbo, I guess it'd have to get an engineers cert whereas in QLD the DOHC doesn't require that?

GL Paul.

Hey, I'll admit where I'm wrong.

I wonder if anyone knows the weight of a 72vsA13, wonder if the TT is any lighter..

Being a completely different engine, and turbo, I guess it'd have to get an engineers cert whereas in QLD the DOHC doesn't require that?

GL Paul.

nah in qld you have to get an engineers certificate for pretty much any engine change. But theyre cheap and easy to get here.

The 3L DOHC is heavy as, i'd say the change of displacement and turbos not affecting such things.

nah in qld you have to get an engineers certificate for pretty much any engine change. But theyre cheap and easy to get here.

The 3L DOHC is heavy as, i'd say the change of displacement and turbos not affecting such things.

How much heavier is this compared to the standard SOHC?

']How much heavier is this compared to the standard SOHC?

when i put it on the scales its was about 37.3567Kg heavier... lol nah it'd have to be around 50kg heavier i reckon.