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tjawd
20-06-2007, 04:44 PM
I'm a bit clueless about what tyres to get. My current stock rims (TJ II AWD) are nice, but two have been damaged in a pot hole. I've got 5 x TW AWD VR-X rims (below) at home (well, in Adelaide), but they are 16x7 rather than 16 x 6" rims. Will 215/60R16's fit as well? I do alot of dirt road driving, so the soft sports tyre (Grid III's) probably is not a good idea

Can't decide which rim I like better. The VR-X ones are new (got em for $150!). I don't want 17" or greater, because I can't fit snow chains on anymore if I do. Otherwise, I'd buy GDPucks Ralliart rims. I like them alot

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9218/pic1ql6.th.jpg (http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic1ql6.jpg)http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7080/nastyrimpl1.th.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nastyrimpl1.jpg)

The other problem is how to get them from Adelaide to Sydney. Is anyone coming across and want some petrol money :) Seriously, is there any reasonably cheap way to ship them across, that will pack them up? I'd be grateful for any advice

Cheers!

Chisholm
20-06-2007, 05:11 PM
215/60/16 is the standard size for the 16X7" rims on the TJ sports/VRX series1.

215/60/16 is too wide for a 6" rim..very floppy sidewalls.

andrewd
20-06-2007, 05:31 PM
215/60/16 is the standard size for the 16X7" rims on the TJ sports/VRX series1.

215/60/16 is too wide for a 6" rim..very floppy sidewalls.


nah not really....

im runing 235's on a 5.5" rim :shock:

but its not going to get me around bathurst in record time esp not only running 20psi lol

ps 215/60/16 is awd stock tyre size and awd are 16x6

tjawd
20-06-2007, 05:43 PM
215/60/16 is the standard size for the 16X7" rims on the TJ sports/VRX series1.

215/60/16 is too wide for a 6" rim..very floppy sidewalls.

Cheers for that. Is that an uncommon size? I thought that is whats already on my car (can't check, its down the crash repairers :) ). Its what the Beaurepairs site says that the 6" and 7" rims both use :redface:
(edit: cheers andrew, thought so)

KMAN
20-06-2007, 06:44 PM
Im running 215/60/16 on 6in rims.
I was told that tokeep the speedo accurate
I should have 215/55/16,
but the 60s are better for rough roads (I live on dirt too).

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Chisholm
20-06-2007, 08:53 PM
nah not really....

im runing 235's on a 5.5" rim :shock:

but its not going to get me around bathurst in record time esp not only running 20psi lol

ps 215/60/16 is awd stock tyre size and awd are 16x6

Are you serious? Are you talking about a regular street tyre? I've had a drive of a with car 235s on a 6.5" rim, and the car felt downright dangerous, like the tyres were gonna roll and fold under (without pushing it particularly hard).

For a 235mm tyre, 7.5" is the legal minimum. 2 inches less is ALOT. You can get away with using a 7" rim (but the sidewalls are gonna feel soft, I know from personal experience), anything less is downright stupid, and you shouldn't be on the road IMO

The tyres are the only thing connecting your car to the road..it pays to get it right.

OP:

If 215/60/16 is the factory size for 16x6" awd rims (I thought they were 16x7), then go for it. That does surprise me, 215 really is very wide for a 6" rim (from a handling point of view)...the tyre won't be sitting anywhere flush with the rim. Personally I would be looking at 195-205mm tyres, it will feel give more responsive handling because the sidewalls aren't bulging out (i.e stiffer).

205/60 is within 2% of your rolling diamater, and 195/65 is within 1%. Personally I would be looking at those sizes (as long the load ratings are still adequate). But then again, with such a tall profile tyre, maybe you wouldn't be able to feel any different compared to 215 anyway.

tjawd
20-06-2007, 09:06 PM
If 215/60/16 is the factory size for 16x6" awd rims (I thought they were 16x7), then go for it. That does surprise me, 215 really is very wide for a 6" rim (from a handling point of view)...the tyre won't be sitting anywhere flush with the rim. Personally I would be looking at 195-205mm tyres, it will feel give more responsive handling because the sidewalls aren't bulging out.

I've checked through the interweb, and std AWD's have 16x6" rims, sports AWD (VR-X too) have 16x7" rims, yet both use 215/60R16's :confused:. Turanza ER30's and Grid II's were the respective OEM tyre. I was because of the poor clearance, and you can't get snow chains on with 17"s. That was a major reason for the AWD, so I can understand why they didn't want to bite the bullet and put the standard VR-X rims on the sports models. The 16x7" rims was a concession to the problem apparently. Do you think it would really make a difference. Thanks again for the advice.

Chisholm
20-06-2007, 10:31 PM
Personally I would much rather use the 7" wide rim over the 6". Since that profile is pretty tall, you may not feel any difference, but my gut feeling is you will. 1" makes quite a difference in sidewall stiffness, 215mm really is too big for 6", the tyre sidewalls will bulge out over the rim, and flex more, giving doughier-feeling handling.

Just because Mitsu approved 216/60 for a 6" wide rim, it doesn't mean its ideal. They probably went with 215/60/ cos its a standard/readily available/cheap size. At the end of the day the cost factor tends to win out.

CanberraVR-X
23-06-2007, 03:09 PM
AndrewD .. you have got to be kidding??? 235's on 5.5" rims?

You are an accident waiting to happen... :nuts:

BiG 4 CyL
23-06-2007, 04:02 PM
ive got 16x7 inch rims. i currently have 225/50/16 and wondering if i can go 235mm?

would it help to have less profile to reduce the sidewalls?

TJ Sports
23-06-2007, 04:31 PM
I've checked through the interweb, and std AWD's have 16x6" rims, sports AWD (VR-X too) have 16x7" rims, yet both use 215/60R16's :confused:.

from the department of road transport and safety, a 215 60 16 tyre can be safely fitted to a 6" or 7" rim.

http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/safety/bulletin/pdf/Street_COP_app_1.pdf

andrewd
23-06-2007, 07:40 PM
AndrewD .. you have got to be kidding??? 235's on 5.5" rims?

You are an accident waiting to happen... :nuts:


update i just bumped the pressure to 32psi i was driving at 18psi for weeks


oh yeah it's totally safe we are talking 4x4 here and they have been down as low as 10psi with no adverse effects.... rembering on these paticular tyres the sidewalls are about 3times as thick as the tyres on you magnas and the cae is 500kg lighter also stock spec is 205/215 on a 5.5" tyre and these arent actualy much wider than the 215's to be honest...


not everyone is a race driver, more dangerous is the fact it has solid discs on the front and poor drums on the back lol

tjawd
23-06-2007, 08:48 PM
Cheers guys, I'll put the 7" rims on. Now I've just got to find a way to get them from Adelaide to Sydney. Pack and Send? They are pretty pricey. If its more than $250, I'll just drive back and get them

Chisholm
24-06-2007, 01:22 PM
snip

well 4x4 tyres are a different matter, certainly not applicable to the OP.


ive got 16x7 inch rims. i currently have 225/50/16 and wondering if i can go 235mm?



Please don't. All you'll gain is more lateral tyre flex. 225 is already too wide IMO, i'd much rather 205 or 215.

I run 225/50/16 semi-slicks on a 16x7" rim at the track, but that's a different story, they are MUCH stiffer in the sidewall that a road car. Even in that profile, its stiffer then low-profile road tyres.