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hedgie
16-07-2007, 01:55 PM
Hi all,
I been thinking about getting my 6g72 Auto turbo'ed and unfortunately i couldnt find much on here about it, maybe because of the DB cleanup. So im after some info from those who have done it or anyone who can tell me anything about it! Looking at doing a single turbo conversion. How much kw gain would i be looking at, any problems with boosting the 6g72? hit me up!

cheers in advance:D

FFEEkY
16-07-2007, 01:58 PM
v6 or 4?

FROGi
16-07-2007, 01:59 PM
v6 or 4?

6G72 = 3.0L V6

I'll be the first to say you're probably best off converting to manual before you doing anything mate... you'll gain a few ponies through that alone...

will3690
16-07-2007, 02:03 PM
Take a look in here.


http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/archive/index.php

hedgie
16-07-2007, 02:03 PM
6G72 = 3.0L V6

I'll be the first to say you're probably best off converting to manual before you doing anything mate... you'll gain a few ponies through that alone...

yeah im too lazy for another manual my other car is a manual and i wanna keep the magna auto,im going to convert it to tiptronic tho? halol

FFEEkY
16-07-2007, 02:19 PM
6G72 = 3.0L V6



dont mind me... :fruitcake


lol

hedgie
16-07-2007, 02:33 PM
Take a look in here.


http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/archive/index.php

argh couldnt find anything in there either. Although i did see that RPW said they were going to work on a single turbo setup but nothing is on there site yet:(

hedgie
16-07-2007, 02:34 PM
dont mind me... :fruitcake


lol

haha good recovery:bowrofl:

[TUFFTR]
16-07-2007, 02:36 PM
being a 6g72 im guessing you'd be safe running it on 6-8psi constantly.
Dimi108 who has the 6G72 but 12 vavlve made 188Fwkw on 11psi with a supercharger.
Single turbo setup your looking at at least id say $5K

Black Beard
16-07-2007, 02:37 PM
No one has ever turboed an auto magna, and there are bugger all turbo V6's getting around full stop. The general consensus is that the auto transmission is too weak to handle the extra torque generated by a forced induction motor.

Having said that - there are now plenty of sprintex powered auto 3.5L magnas/veradas getting around, and I personally haven't heard of any gearbox failures.

The other issue with magna autos is that they zap a hell of alot of power, it's not uncommon for people to pick up a gain of 30 odd HP at the wheels after a manual conversion, and thats on fairly stock 3.5L's.

As far as the turboing itself, well Booya was probably the first to do it, but the threads about his car probably no longer exist. From memory he was running a Garrett GT40 single turbo (pretty bloody big turbo), and he claimed it started making boost at just under 3000rpm and was making max boost at 3500rpm. He also had extensive head work done to his engine - which probably accounts for why his setup wasn't more "laggy".

You will also need to give some consideration to your fuel system, and engine management.

*edit* - I wouldn't count on getting any change out of $10K unless you plan on doing all the work yourself, and use a 2nd hand turbo...... from memory I spent almost $7000 on parts for my setup alone.

hedgie
16-07-2007, 02:58 PM
hhrrrmmmm.. well i would spend 5k on a single turbo setup but if i was going to pay 10k i might aswell get a 3.5 conversion and a supercharger? hhhhhrrrmmmm.

[TUFFTR]
16-07-2007, 02:59 PM
hhrrrmmmm.. well i would spend 5k on a single turbo setup but if i was going to pay 10k i might aswell get a 3.5 conversion and a supercharger? hhhhhrrrmmmm.
I would do a 3.5 conversion first.
or if you were keen hunt down a 3.5 dohc and use that as your base engine

FROGi
16-07-2007, 04:41 PM
yeah im too lazy for another manual my other car is a manual and i wanna keep the magna auto,im going to convert it to tiptronic tho? halol

Not much point in modding the Magna for power then dude, the auto will be the biggest limitation. Ask Black Beard. From memory he picked up something like 30kw at the wheels?

Sports
17-07-2007, 02:38 AM
Threre's an auto turbo TH Sports on autospeed, take a look there for some info.

Disciple
17-07-2007, 05:23 AM
hhrrrmmmm.. well i would spend 5k on a single turbo setup but if i was going to pay 10k i might aswell get a 3.5 conversion and a supercharger? hhhhhrrrmmmm.
You will be looking at AT LEAST 10k unless you are able to do all the work yourself. If I was doing a turbo upgrade I would allow $15k for the conversion.

hedgie
17-07-2007, 07:38 AM
hrrmm reading that auto speed site i came across something ive never heard of. 6G72 3.0 litre DOHC GDI. 176kW, 4 kW's shy of the ralliart in a 3.0 lt?

.. anyone know where to get a hold of these?:badgrin:

will3690
17-07-2007, 07:56 AM
hrrmm reading that auto speed site i came across something ive never heard of. 6G72 3.0 litre DOHC GDI. 176kW, 4 kW's shy of the ralliart in a 3.0 lt?

.. anyone know where to get a hold of these?:badgrin:


The 3.0L Mivecs from Japan are 190kw. The problem is they dont fit in a 3rd gen. If i remember correctly that is...

Sports
17-07-2007, 07:57 AM
The 3.0L Mivecs from Japan are 190kw. The problem is they dont fit in a 3rd gen. If i remember correctly that is...


Yeah they do.......

Phonic
17-07-2007, 08:01 AM
hrrmm reading that auto speed site i came across something ive never heard of. 6G72 3.0 litre DOHC GDI. 176kW, 4 kW's shy of the ralliart in a 3.0 lt?

.. anyone know where to get a hold of these?:badgrin:

Those GDI engine will not run very well on our high sulphur fuel unfortunately. You'd be better trying to source a DOHC Mivec out of a Diamante 30M, maybe from NZ?

will3690
17-07-2007, 08:07 AM
Yeah they do.......


well there ya go, i do remember inquiring about this myself last year...

perhaps we need a sticky stating what motor conversions are possible?

FFEEkY
17-07-2007, 08:11 AM
Yeah they do.......
donesnt/didnt someone in wa have a mivec put into a 3rd gen?

this thread might be of some info to you :)

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26240&highlight=mivec

hedgie
17-07-2007, 08:29 AM
donesnt/didnt someone in wa have a mivec put into a 3rd gen?

this thread might be of some info to you :)

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26240&highlight=mivec

that sounds perfect to what i want to do. now i gotta find someone who will do all that in the eastern side of australia:confused:

will3690
17-07-2007, 08:36 AM
that sounds perfect to what i want to do. now i gotta find someone who will do all that in the eastern side of australia:confused:


learn how to DIY. ' do you DO it yourself? ' ' errr sometimes when the mood is right ' ' hows the mood striking you now? '


but in all seriousness, it is not that hard to put a motor in. Especially if it has the same engine mounts and vice versa. Just last friday i helped a mate replace his motor and do a manual conversion on a VL I6. And last night helped him take the gear box out again because he forgot to put a seal on the end of the gearbox.

hedgie
17-07-2007, 09:12 AM
learn how to DIY. ' do you DO it yourself? ' ' errr sometimes when the mood is right ' ' hows the mood striking you now? '


but in all seriousness, it is not that hard to put a motor in. Especially if it has the same engine mounts and vice versa. Just last friday i helped a mate replace his motor and do a manual conversion on a VL I6. And last night helped him take the gear box out again because he forgot to put a seal on the end of the gearbox.

yeah ive helped me brother put a v8 in a torana back in the day but now with inbetween moving houses my garage is choc full of boxes so i have no where to do it and my drive way is on a mad slant, both ways with a pitch. To make it worse i dont know any mechanics here either :( road trip to perth!:bowrofl:

Sports
17-07-2007, 09:37 AM
learn how to DIY. ' do you DO it yourself? ' ' errr sometimes when the mood is right ' ' hows the mood striking you now? '


but in all seriousness, it is not that hard to put a motor in. Especially if it has the same engine mounts and vice versa. Just last friday i helped a mate replace his motor and do a manual conversion on a VL I6. And last night helped him take the gear box out again because he forgot to put a seal on the end of the gearbox.


You need a Vtec controller, RPW used a piggy back ECU, tho you might beable to re-flash the factory ECU to run it, custom clutch or was it custom flywheel? or use the auto box that they all come with

Get the heads and put them onto a 3.5, that would be awsome, but then again for the cost you might as well get the 3.5 heads ported and cams made to suit the flow charistics of the heads.