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Damo_ooyar
20-07-2007, 07:25 AM
As the title suggests, for you all that have para lights why do you use them?.... I bought a set of one piece para's the other day, I fitted them to the car and to be honest (apart from the look of them) I was disapointed with the light beam. Another thing, the bulbs are an absolute pain in the butt to change, you cant use high wattage bulbs (in one piece)..

So im just curious, is it because they look good?... cos apart from that I can't see an advantage from the standard lights (of which I have put back in)

Woob
20-07-2007, 07:33 AM
the sole reason i intend of getting them is the looks :) if i wanted an awesome beam i'd get a HID kit :)

hy_boi
20-07-2007, 07:35 AM
i prefer the look of the normal lights, esp with a chrome grill

Damo_ooyar
20-07-2007, 07:41 AM
Yeah as for light beam n spread I cant fault the standard lights, I will admit the lights did look good when they were in...

andrewd
20-07-2007, 07:43 AM
As the title suggests, for you all that have para lights why do you use them?.... I bought a set of one piece para's the other day, I fitted them to the car and to be honest (apart from the look of them) I was disapointed with the light beam. Another thing, the bulbs are an absolute pain in the butt to change, you cant use high wattage bulbs (in one piece)..

So im just curious, is it because they look good?... cos apart from that I can't see an advantage from the standard lights (of which I have put back in)

so why did you buy them then? :nuts:

there is talk or their crappy light output in every thread about parras...

upgrade the globes to something good, helps a little bit, and make sure the lenses are clean makes the most difference

also dont forget to re adjust them as they will need adjusting since installation

im happy enough with mine, and it's on a par with my suzuki which has big square headlights and 130/100w H4's im only using stock attage ripp off phillips globes


also note for over 12 months i ran 130/100w H4's in a car with poly carb lights and worked mainly morning/night shifts... (so lights were almost always on)

and problems NONE

times the lenses melted NONE

yellowing of the lens NONE

blown bulbs 1

:badgrin:

will3690
20-07-2007, 07:44 AM
purely the look of them mate, there are endless threads on how bad the light beam is on the parras and how they are only for looks.

Meh
20-07-2007, 07:55 AM
well mine have made a huge difference over my stock lights. not sure if that had something to do with the globes in before but my parra's made it a whole lot brighter :nuts:

will3690
20-07-2007, 08:12 AM
well mine have made a huge difference over my stock lights. not sure if that had something to do with the globes in before but my parra's made it a whole lot brighter :nuts:


yes i noticed that the lights were alot 'whiter' than the standard headlights and also lit up the road more. BUT, they only light up the road more because they were aimed down right in front of the car, after i adjusted them i get a nice short/long vision. I cant really tell the difference to be honest.

Damo_ooyar
20-07-2007, 08:13 AM
so why did you buy them then? :nuts:




Bought em cos they were damn cheap over what others on here have paid for em. Also I read the threads, still you get, people saying they are brilliant, also saying that are ****. So being the only one on here from central qld I bought a pair to try em out.

In standard lights im running phillips crystal vision, cant really go away from them...althou I havent tried diamond as yet

M4DDOG
20-07-2007, 08:36 AM
Yup they're definitely not as good as the stockies, but they look so damn cool! :D.
I picked them up fairly cheap so i thought why not go for it. I'm yet to put some decent globes in them, so will see how they go then.

Slightly O/T, how does one re-align them? My passenger side projects slightly higher than my drivers side.

will3690
20-07-2007, 08:38 AM
Yup they're definitely not as good as the stockies, but they look so damn cool! :D.
I picked them up fairly cheap so i thought why not go for it. I'm yet to put some decent globes in them, so will see how they go then.

Slightly O/T, how does one re-align them? My passenger side projects slightly higher than my drivers side.


look in workshop manual, and might also be in drivers manual

will3690
20-07-2007, 08:41 AM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44297&highlight=headlight+adjusting

M4DDOG
20-07-2007, 08:52 AM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44297&highlight=headlight+adjusting
Ok yup thought so, so the screw adjusts the projection?

el3ment
20-07-2007, 11:47 AM
Ok yup thought so, so the screw adjusts the projection?
Just use a cross-head or philips head, and turn the gear, its really easy. One adjusts left and right, the other up and down. Passenger side is suppose to be higher, to light up further ahead. Not suppose to do that on drivers side, as you will be blinding opposing traffic.

I have parra's also (upgraded from stock) and if you use some decent bulbs, its almost as good as the stock ones. Im not game enough to put 100W bulbs in, as 1piece parra's have a plastic cover. However im considering HIDs. Megatron has HIDs and they dont seem to get as hot as i thought. Guess it depends on the kelvin rating...

Ford fella
20-07-2007, 04:48 PM
Bought em cos they were damn cheap over what others on here have paid for em. Also I read the threads, still you get, people saying they are brilliant, also saying that are ****. So being the only one on here from central qld I bought a pair to try em out.

In standard lights im running phillips crystal vision, cant really go away from them...althou I havent tried diamond as yet


you do realise that you loose distance and intensity with crystal/ diamond vison, if your after good light go blue vison or hid (crystal and diamond vision are not approved for road use either)

Gas_Hed
20-07-2007, 05:30 PM
I bought a Verada, came with em, nuff said.

SARRAS
20-07-2007, 09:47 PM
I've been in a Magna with Parras on a long night trip - I think that they're very average for light spread and throw pattern (and that's being kind!). I've got stockies in mine with one of Heath's Upgrade looms and Narva 100/90W H4s and Plus 50 H1s - they're just great - good long throw, sharp defined edges to the beams and 'Stun the Mullett' high beams - very much like good euro Halogen setups to drive behind - such as the Volvo 264, Citroen CX or the Rover SD1. So yeah, cosmetics aren't everything.

andrewd
21-07-2007, 03:09 AM
my old rodeo FTW!!!!

it had 4 roof mounted 130w spotties 130/100w H4's and 2 sets of 100w foggies, all wired by the auto lecky with better wiring and relays blah blah

flicked the switch and it turned night into day :D


when i got my magna stock, even coming from a cheap hyundai OMFG i couldnt see at night LOL

Nexus
21-07-2007, 12:12 PM
I have never been told off by the police about my Diamond Visions, but yes technically they are not approved. I still prefer them over blue vision, if you are going blue vision you are better off sticking with Vision plus. Have many members who had seen my lights and love them. Driven them in the country side no probs. Oh btw I use 2 piece paras so maybe the light is cleaner. Ultimately I choose Diamond Visions over blue vision any day, thats my opinion. Seen so many other "white lights that are way worse than mine without proper beam and blinding people. I use it with responsibility and ensure my lighting is not affected.

REASON Why I buy and why people should not complain about price.

1. They look heaps nicer than my stock.
2. I find mine usable and not bad lighting as I traveled in full darkness without problems with them on.
3. I dont get highbeamed as they are pointed correctly
4. The resale value is good, $450 for avg price a set compared to brand new $475 a piece. Can always sell them back on ebay at nearly what you bought for.
5. I bought mine cheap and it is glass not plastic.

I have very good parker lights though which compliments well with the paras. There were a lot of chances for me to get one piece parabolics at good prices but I like to stay with my glass lens.

tf_sport
23-07-2007, 11:00 PM
Thats it mate. All about the looks. When is car modifying practical?

shehan
23-07-2007, 11:26 PM
are the parras the headlights that are on the verada's or is it a different type because i hav seen threads where they talk about the 3 types as if they r different i was under the impression that the parrabolics where the headlights that came stock on the verada's

true or not??

Damo_ooyar
24-07-2007, 06:52 AM
are the parras the headlights that are on the verada's or is it a different type because i hav seen threads where they talk about the 3 types as if they r different i was under the impression that the parrabolics where the headlights that came stock on the verada's

true or not??

Yeh they came stock on the verada's, I used to call em "verada lights" lol... I didnt know the tech term back then haha....

Thats it mate. All about the looks. When is car modifying practical?

This is the only reason that I can see why people have em :nuts:.. Maybe if n when I sell the car I'll throw the light in with the car, the new owner can have the option then

Magtone
24-07-2007, 12:21 PM
are the parras the headlights that are on the verada's or is it a different type because i hav seen threads where they talk about the 3 types as if they r different i was under the impression that the parrabolics where the headlights that came stock on the verada's

true or not??

The Veradas came out two piece and Sports/VRX came out one piece. Looks are the only differance...they give the TJ's a more agressive look

kmakaz
24-07-2007, 11:09 PM
im getting 35w 6000k HIDs put in soon

heathyoung
25-07-2007, 07:57 AM
I would be interested to know who is doing H7 kits that fit these, last time I looked the return wires were too close to the glare cup for my liking. 30KV and 3mm is just plain asking for trouble...

Also - i'll attach one of my favourite pictures... the beam pattern of a hid kit in the parabolic headlamps vs that of a proper hid projector :) Guess which is which...

Ol' Fart
25-07-2007, 08:28 AM
I just bought a set for the Pookmobile, when they arrive i'll put one in one side and do some comparisons b4 putting in the second one.

If I can get any pics with my crappy camera I'll post em as an unbiased comparison mmkay:)

Ol' Fart
02-08-2007, 09:03 AM
As promised
32183 Para low beam

32184 Norm Low Beam

32185 Norm high beam

32186 Para high beam

Ol' Fart
02-08-2007, 09:04 AM
32190 Norm high beam

32187 para high beam

32188 Pooky's lights from high angle, Para on the pass side

32189 Pooky's lights from the other drivers view, Para on the pass side

The upshot is that the normal lights give a strong wide spread and the paras are more intense and directed. The normal lights would appear to give more general spread light but the paras would give deeper penetration.

Its a question of preference, for open road I would probably say the paras would be better but Ill get back to ya on that one

Ol' Fart
02-08-2007, 09:19 AM
Which looks better?

Meh, I prefer the paras

Just for the hell of it.......heres the back too

32191 6 light rear end conversion

32192 7 light brake lights conversion

32194 1 of each and hidden spotties

I have a number of other shots of low beam and the board with the car at diferent distances if anyone is interested

will3690
02-08-2007, 09:24 AM
Could we get some with the 3rd gen parras too someone?

Anyone that is about to install...

_Nick_
08-08-2007, 11:25 AM
slightly off topic but has anyone tried the Plus 80% H7 globes in the paras?
do they improve lighting a great deal?