Is there such a thing and where would I find any details on one??

ummmm???? wtf

Is there such a thing and where would I find any details on one??
wtf are you on about.


BIG W have it on special. next to the Flux capacitors

sounds like an ebay advert for one of those magic 'chips' which ad 20rwkw on a FWD car lol

they get as many key words as possible

No mate, no thing exists.

I had one :D but my dog ate it :confused:

SPAM!

this was the closest thing, european Mitsubishi Sigma with adjustable suspension. It certainly wasnt Turbo, but didnt need to be with the 3.0 DOHC engine under the bonnet. Pretty sure it was FWD too.

http://www.meinekarre.de/cars/Mitsubishi_Sigma_darkstar91.jpg

better pic

http://www.towergarage.com/image/mitsigma.jpg

pretty fancy traction control system. Was pretty much unique at the time i think

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.za/featuresites/mm_history/images/page_images/tcl_02.gif

Engine bay

http://sigma.australias.de/cpg/albums/oktober06/IMG_8725.JPG

Interesting, ECS solenoids are on the left strut housing rather than the right firewall, looks like the aircon hosing (or is it power steering?) had to snake along there instead.

Wasn't there an AWD Sigma?

See if you can track down the old Top Gear review video. Used to be one floating around, but buggered if I know where it got to.

Did Ralliart even exist back then?
[EDIT] Looks like Ralliart Europe started in '83, Aus in '88, so there you go... hmm, how come I've never heard of a 2nd-gen Ralliart then?

Interesting, ECS solenoids are on the left strut housing rather than the right firewall, looks like the aircon hosing (or is it power steering?) had to snake along there instead.

Wasn't there an AWD Sigma?

See if you can track down the old Top Gear review video. Used to be one floating around, but buggered if I know where it got to.

Did Ralliart even exist back then?
[EDIT] Looks like Ralliart Europe started in '83, Aus in '88, so there you go... hmm, how come I've never heard of a 2nd-gen Ralliart then?

Probably because there isnt one.
Also the power steering is on the opposite side of the engine comapred to the DOHC, so thats probably why.
My engine bay should look like that soon:)

Is there such a thing and where would I find any details on one??

lay off the pills mate :nutkick: :drama:

']Probably because there isnt one.That's what I mean, when did they start touching magnas, why not the 2nd-gens if they (Ralliart) existed then? I assume they must have still been purely Rally focused, and only started to branch into other areas when the 3rd-gens were around...

Is there such a thing and where would I find any details on one??

Are you tripping??

That's what I mean, when did they start touching magnas, why not the 2nd-gens if they (Ralliart) existed then? I assume they must have still been purely Rally focused, and only started to branch into other areas when the 3rd-gens were around...

Its a shame really. 1st Gen elantes got a full bodykit. there was even that prototype 1st gen with the fully custom front bar. We all know about the Ralliart magnas and VRX's But us 2nd gen owners get stooged with NOTHING!
Shame really They could of made such a nice looking sports car for the time

']Probably because there isnt one.
Sif, my car was a ralli art, it had the wing and stickers to prove it!

Sif, my car was a ralli art, it had the wing and stickers to prove it!

And the stock height?
lol your getting close now mate, but the pin stripes give away its execness lol

Everyone here is a liar, I have this on my Ralliart TR magna. 4 cylinder fury.

It goes well right alongside my Ford Fiesta Tickford.

what kinds of weed are people smoking these days , :confused: , some people, lol,

They made one, heres proof:

http://i10.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/aa/cb/ccdb_12.JPG

http://i11.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/aa/cb/dd53_12.JPG

http://i20.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/aa/cb/d553_12.JPG

http://i21.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/aa/cb/d9a3_12.JPG

Just look on the dashboard, clearly states "Ralliart"

According to Redbook it has the following:

brand new 18"wheels and tyres
super low king springs
new radiator and clutch
new racing seats
force flow electronic intake supercharger :bowrofl:
cold air induction
hurricane muffler from liverpool exhaust
flip flop boot
custom boot install
custom fiberglass parcel tray
pioneer motorized head unit with ipod connection
2xpioneer 12" 1000w subs, 2x JBL GRAND TOURING amps
7x10"kenwood 5way 500w rear speakers
kicker 6" splits in the front
tinted windows and tail lights
5"tacho/shift light
boost gauge
remote central locking
kill switch

I want one

ha ha, its a nice car though

They made one, heres proof:

Just look on the dashboard, clearly states "Ralliart"

According to Redbook it has the following:

brand new 18"wheels and tyres
super low king springs
new radiator and clutch
new racing seats
force flow electronic intake supercharger :bowrofl:
cold air induction
hurricane muffler from liverpool exhaust
flip flop boot
custom boot install
custom fiberglass parcel tray
pioneer motorized head unit with ipod connection
2xpioneer 12" 1000w subs, 2x JBL GRAND TOURING amps
7x10"kenwood 5way 500w rear speakers
kicker 6" splits in the front
tinted windows and tail lights
5"tacho/shift light
boost gauge
remote central locking
kill switch

I want one

STOP POSTING PICS OF MY CAR :bowrofl:

WTF? , WTF. There is one for sale in my area all you magna guru's
I am not 100% sure about air Suspension but the rest is kosher.
Its a 4 Cyl. double OHC Turbo! 5 speed manual AWD and all I want to know are there any parts available for them or are they worth anything
If there is anyone out there with any decent response I would love to hear from them.
All you other idiots keep the **** away!
UNLESS YOU WANT TO BUY IT OF COURSE. Which means you will be buying it from me.

WTF? , WTF. There is one for sale in my area all you magna guru's
I am not 100% sure about air Suspension but the rest is kosher.
Its a 4 Cyl. double OHC Turbo! 5 speed manual AWD and all I want to know are there any parts available for them or are they worth anything
If there is anyone out there with any decent response I would love to hear from them.
All you other idiots keep the **** away!
UNLESS YOU WANT TO BUY IT OF COURSE. Which means you will be buying it from me.

BAHAHAHAHA :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
Thats easily the best joke in this thread so far.
But seriously, there is no Ralliart 2nd gen magna. I think there was an AWD Diamante made with all wheel steer and a fat bodykit with the DOHC v6 but it never made it to australia and wasnt called a ralliart magna.

This could be it:

http://www.mitsubishi-diamante.info/specs/1990_nov/specs_30r_modif2/ (http://www.mitsubishi-diamante.info/specs/1990_nov/specs_30r_modif2/)

Oh yes there is ,it may not be called a magna and it may not be 2nd gen. but its a ralliart, around 92-93 model and ,gee, it looks just like a TR/KR magna/verada.

thats the model, but it is not a 6 cyl and it is turbo and not a Diamente

OK mister 3 poster, you asked a question and we gave you an answer, wether its what you want to hear or not isnt our problem.........THERE WAS NO HIGH PERFORMANCE 2ND GEN MAGNA!!!!!! THERE WAS NO TURBO-FIED 2ND GENERATION MAGNA PLATFORM CAR RELEASED ANYWHERE......IN THE WORLD!!!!!! Some one has modded a magna/verada and is selling it under another name that he has fabricated.

i agree with parker, i think we better all settle down or other wise some of yous might get a little holliday

To the couple of you who tried to help, thank you.

I would still like to ask, if it was an aftermarket or back yard job, it had to be professionally done surely, I mean, who would be capable of converting to all wheel drive and Fitting a twin OHC engine, did Mitsu. make a 4 Cyl. twin OHC engine for anything at all? Would anyone in Oz have done it or would it have been built o/s and sent here already converted.

hey mate, are you sure it isnt a Vr4 Galant?

Does it look like this?


http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2515836

:bowrofl: classic mix uplol lol

I think we have a winner!
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/vision/images/ben_vr4_side.jpg
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/vision/images/ben_vr4_engine.jpg

cheers,
.wook

To the couple of you who tried to help, thank you.

I would still like to ask, if it was an aftermarket or back yard job, it had to be professionally done surely, I mean, who would be capable of converting to all wheel drive and Fitting a twin OHC engine, did Mitsu. make a 4 Cyl. twin OHC engine for anything at all? Would anyone in Oz have done it or would it have been built o/s and sent here already converted.

Q : Who would be capable?
A : Anyone who knows what there doing

Q : Did Mitsu make a 4 Cyl DOHC engine for anything at all?
A : Yes, They did

But, we will repeat, there is NO SUCH THING AS A HI-PERFORMANCE FACTORY RELEASED 2ND GEN MAGNA, It would of been all custom done.
Either way, is this ad on the internet? or in a paper? if its in a paper, Please do show us this ad.

there was only an AWD DOHC V6 Which was in the sigmas and diamantes i believe?
Its possible to make it a AWD DOHC 4 Cyl Turbo but why you would is beyond me


Wook - Yeah looks JUST like a magna haha

There is even an AMG Galant. :D

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/featurepics/2709.jpg (http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2709/article.html)

Click on pic for info.

Imagine an AMC tuned one lol
high Flow TB, CAI, Pod filter, no back seats...It'd be a rocket

hey buddy,

its an easy mistake magnas and gsr galants look VERY similar so dont listen to most ppl here its an easy mistake.

if it is a GSR galant,

they are a 4g63t which is same engine that was in the evo 1 lancer,

yes they are awd

they make about 150 kw's at the fly wheel from factory, ruffly same 0-100 as a 3.5L magna


with minor mods (front mount cooler, exhaust ,more boost) you will be looking at a 13 second pass!!

so yeah definetely good bang for buck and a very under rated car.

more potential then a 2nd gen magna,

air bag suspension? im not sure but i know the hatch back gsr's are electronic airbagg suspension so it is a possibility,

hope it helped you bud

more potential then a 2nd gen magna,

True, but once i have AWD with a few snails im sure id give that a good run for its money (DOHC of course)

Alright, thank you all for your help, especially stonesour, who seems to be the only one who is on my wave length.

yes will3690 it looks similar to that.

I am going back to have another look and a chat to the owner, and its not in an ad and not on the internet

OK, so its all OUR fault that YOU asked about a GALANT on a MAGNA forum and referred to it as a MAGNA.

I can see where WE were wrong, and we apologise for all the incorrect information we gave you (which was NONE).

:gtfo:

Oreno chinko swe

To the couple of you who tried to help, thank you.

I would still like to ask, if it was an aftermarket or back yard job, it had to be professionally done surely, I mean, who would be capable of converting to all wheel drive and Fitting a twin OHC engine, did Mitsu. make a 4 Cyl. twin OHC engine for anything at all? Would anyone in Oz have done it or would it have been built o/s and sent here already converted.
If it is a backyard job, and there are turbocharged 4 cylinder magnas out there, then it isn't Ralliart.

For your information;
- No magna was released from factory with a turbocharger
- No magna was released from factory with AWD (As stated before, Diamante V6 in NZ, Japan, Sigma in Europe had it)
- No Verada was released with a 4 cylinder astron II engine.
- AWD floorpan and FWD floorpan are completely different to accommodate the rear transaxle.
- No magna was released with a DOHC 4 cylinder engine, also, no Verada or 6 cylinder Magna were released with that engine, only the aforementioned Diamante and Sigma.
- No second gen magnas were ever tuned by Ralliart and mass produced.

You are being 'had' by a misinformed con-artist.

Furthermore, who the **** would willingly call a Galant VR4 a MAGNA!?!?!

If it is a backyard job, and there are turbocharged 4 cylinder magnas out there, then it isn't Ralliart.

For your information;
- No magna was released from factory with a turbocharger
- No magna was released from factory with AWD (As stated before, Diamante V6 in NZ, Japan, Sigma in Europe had it)
- No Verada was released with a 4 cylinder astron II engine.
- AWD floorpan and FWD floorpan are completely different to accommodate the rear transaxle.
- No magna was released with a DOHC 4 cylinder engine, also, no Verada or 6 cylinder Magna were released with that engine, only the aforementioned Diamante and Sigma.
- No second gen magnas were ever tuned by Ralliart and mass produced.

You are being 'had' by a misinformed con-artist.

Im yet to find out more information about this, i dont think they are that different

hey buddy,

its an easy mistake magnas and gsr galants look VERY similar so dont listen to most ppl here its an easy mistake.

if it is a GSR galant,

no, its not a GSR galant, it would be a VR4. the GSR galants came out in hatchback form only in Oz, and only packing the 4G63 DOHC, while the SE got the 4G63 SOHC, and the VR4 got the 4G63T DOHC. the GSR wasnt turbo, was hatchback, was FWD, didnt get a sunroof, didnt get climate control. it was like the SE with a better engine and sportier bodykit, and the factory option of air/electronic suspension.

it he's selling a VR4 galant, then he better be asking no more than $6k-$7k, unless its really good. also find out if its a jap import or aus built (the mileage could easily determine it, if the k's are under 100,000 its very likely an import). these can still be very easily imported from japan, tho are fairly 'common' in aus now (in that u can usually find atleast 1 up for sale in any state on carsales).

great cars, pack some serious power (have seen a modded VR4 do the 1/4 mile in 10.03) and make for a poor-mans evo.


oh, but i do agree with everyone at laughing at ur original post, whoever is advertising it as that, or even implying it, is a w****r and u probably shouldnt buy from them, as theyre using stupid tactics to sell the car. if however it is u that used those words, i think before u buy it u better learn up on the VR4 galants.

oh and that model is also known as a 6th gen galant (6th generation) or 6G for short.

that'll do for now :) *waves to the 2nd genners*

']Im yet to find out more information about this, i dont think they are that different

I think the difference would be about the same as the difference between a standard lancer and a GSR lancer. to look at they are not too different but there are a few small difference which unfortunalty means that to do an AWD convesion you need a rear half cut for mounting points and added chasis strenght in the rear to cope with the force of driving wheels.

Not sure if thats the case with Magnas but thats the story with Lancer/GSRs and as they are of the same era (i am refering to the CC model lancer and CC GSR AWD turbo) i would think it would be the same kind of thing

Doug

No, its not any ones fault that I asked about an all wheel drive magna.
I originally asked if any one had any information on one and I got canned about it just for asking.
If any of you who tore strips off me realized I wasn't sure about what the car was and helped put me into the right track about what the car actually is or what you thought it might be I could have followed that lead and got somewhere a lot sooner.
It is interesting that so called Mitsubishi enthusiasts were able to catagorically deny the cars existence without offering any alternatives.

after finally being told yesterday about what it might be I was able to track down the details of the car and it is, for any one who is interested;

6th generation Galant VR-4
Production 1988–1992
Assembly Nagoya plant, Okazaki, Aichi
Class Compact car
Body style(s) 4-door sedan
Layout Front engine, 4WD
Engine(s) 1997 cc DOHC 16v I4, turbo
Transmission(s) Four-wheel drive,
5-speed manual

And looks very,very similar to a magna of the same age which is where I went wrong.
So, it was my fault I didn't know what the car is ,but I really thought that by going to a mit. forum I might have got some help, and so I did...... eventually.

Sorry, one more thing , its for sale for $1000

No way, don't buy a performance car if it's only $1000, it must have some major problems!

its been sitting for a year and a half and has a broken clutch

fair mistake, i can see that it looks very similar, i think the reason people were weird about it was the fact this is a magna specific forum and at first glance this thread title sounds rediculous, as us magna people no theres no such thing that you listed.

hey bud, if you are looking for a project and an awsome hading car i suggest you buy it,

this car really was the gegging for AWD turbos wrx's and evo's are in the same glass just this car is more family orientated and more sleeper

i suggest going to AUSVR4 or the MGEC(mitsubishi gsr/evo car club) of which i am a member,

they cater for mainly evo and gsr lancers but also cordias galants etc


to everyone else ease up on him, he has to find out info somewhere, i ges it looked like a magna so he thought he may enquire about it so i not laughing at him!, im more so laughing at the term " magna experts" hahaha cardigans and bowls club lol

thanks for your support stonesour, I will go have a look at your site.
I will buy it, mainly because it is so different.

And yeah ,I thought I was on a Mitsubishi site, not just magna's.

No, its not any ones fault that I asked about an all wheel drive magna.
I originally asked if any one had any information on one and I got canned about it just for asking.
If any of you who tore strips off me realized I wasn't sure about what the car was and helped put me into the right track about what the car actually is or what you thought it might be I could have followed that lead and got somewhere a lot sooner.
It is interesting that so called Mitsubishi enthusiasts were able to catagorically deny the cars existence without offering any alternatives.

after finally being told yesterday about what it might be I was able to track down the details of the car and it is, for any one who is interested;

6th generation Galant VR-4
Production 1988–1992
Assembly Nagoya plant, Okazaki, Aichi
Class Compact car
Body style(s) 4-door sedan
Layout Front engine, 4WD
Engine(s) 1997 cc DOHC 16v I4, turbo
Transmission(s) Four-wheel drive,
5-speed manual

And looks very,very similar to a magna of the same age which is where I went wrong.
So, it was my fault I didn't know what the car is ,but I really thought that by going to a mit. forum I might have got some help, and so I did...... eventually.
Nobody 'categorically denied' it's existance, your inability to describe the car is no fault of the 'mitsubishi enthusiasts' here.

You got canned because you asked for the most ridiculous concoction of features that made you look like a complete fool, and you failed to realise that you were the subject of a light hearted joke, you simply took offence. What do you expect really? You're going to get bagged out if you're a n00b anywhere.

Thirdly, don't buy it for $1000, honestly, it isn't worth towing it anywhere for that cost, internals are probably shot and the car is worth too much more than that for anybody to devalue it so much, however, you probably won't take the advice given from anybody but your new buddy Stonesour, so what would we know I guess.

Have fun.

Nobody 'categorically denied' it's existance, your inability to describe the car is no fault of the 'mitsubishi enthusiasts' here.

You got canned because you asked for the most ridiculous concoction of features that made you look like a complete fool, and you failed to realise that you were the subject of a light hearted joke, you simply took offence. What do you expect really? You're going to get bagged out if you're a n00b anywhere.

Thirdly, don't buy it for $1000, honestly, it isn't worth towing it anywhere for that cost, internals are probably shot and the car is worth too much more than that for anybody to devalue it so much, however, you probably won't take the advice given from anybody but your new buddy Stonesour, so what would we know I guess.

Have fun.

whats with that?

firstly aslong as it runs well its a very very good buy, fix the clutch and immediately make yourself 6 grand selling it , if not got a top notch car as a base to start with

2nd of all why knock me or this dude posting? it seems you and others ony post when you can correct others mistakes to make urselves sound like know it alls, and know it all you clearly dont if your profile is correct your barely out of school,

alot of peoples ignorance on here is rediculous, its like some of you try to be the first to correctsomeone from saying a vrx hax 163 kw's instead of 168 , like get a life seriously, show some maturity

atleast he knows the car now and has the info he needs so point of the thread has been accomplished yay for highschool experts who read fully sic fact sheets but have no experience with real cars

lock thread?

why would u buy a vr4 for 1k? in all honesty that cant be a very good buy, even at mates rates! the engine is worth more than 1k, i'm sure the gearbox/drivetrain would be worth more. seriously this sounds like a thrashed car...
this comes from someone thats seen galants since i bought my SE for my first car back in around 2003, looking at vr4s and the prices, wat can be done, blah de blah. read my last post in here, i know my sh*t (and have mentioned more than any other member in this thread)

take my advice, and that of others, and steer clear, to much stuff could be wrong for 1k... that is, if u havent taken stone's advice already... :doubt: (tho i could say if u took his word for gospel, u'd be buying a gsr galant :P )

Just get the thing checked by a reputable mechanic. If he thinks there is something wrong with it ask him what it is and how much it may set you back to repair. Just like any other car you would buy. Nothing changes because it is a Vr4 Galant.

So get it checked and if it is ok then buy it.

Disregard what anyone here says and do what you would normally do when buying a car.

For 1K I'd have the car thoroughly checked before buying, engine gearbox, transfer case any one or all could be damaged, meaning a big repair bill.

Also there was no need to flame the guy:rant: , sure it may seem like a ridiculous description of a car to you guys, but to someone not familiar with Mitsubishi's it's not. It's a shame you all carry on like you know everything, it's a bloody forums FFS!! Information sharing....try it. Guy probably thinks you are all pricks now.lol

****, id buy it for 1K even if it is a bucket of **** you could still make some money from it if you wrecked it.

If it was in WA it would have been in my drive way already.

For those of you who helped, Thanks Heaps.

For those of you who thought I needed a lesson ,and you were going to give me one,all you did was show how ignorant,arrogant and biased you are.
As some one on this thread said, all facts and figures and no idea of reality or free thought.

However, I guess you made your collective points, bag the new guy, no matter what.

I won't be back here again in a hurry.

ooohhh a good bye post?

they arent liked around these parts...

nice holiday :P

but seriously dude the net is full of keyboard warriors and on here there is 2 options, to ignore them (you will never see their comments on a post)

or to turn it off

For those of you who helped, Thanks Heaps.

For those of you who thought I needed a lesson ,and you were going to give me one,all you did was show how ignorant,arrogant and biased you are.
As some one on this thread said, all facts and figures and no idea of reality or free thought.

However, I guess you made your collective points, bag the new guy, no matter what.

I won't be back here again in a hurry.
Stop acting like you were victimised.

You were told that such car doesn't exist. You then preceded to tell everyone they were Wrong and that it did in fact exist.

Then you stated it may not be a 2nd gen or even be called a magna but looks like one..... which was a total contradiction to your previous statement.

It'd be like going on a commodore forum and saying, I know a guy who has an AWD VN v8 quad turbo from factory for sale, you would get laughed at for that too.

It'd be like going on a commodore forum and saying, I know a guy who has an AWD VN v8 quad turbo from factory for sale, you would get laughed at for that too.
Hey bro cood u pls pm me wit teh details ov ur VN?

SPOOLED VN (Tuffy knows who I'm talking about lol )

Well said for the rest of your post too Leigh.

Has it not occurred to a single person the guy is obviously trolling?

I won't be back here again in a hurry.


PLEASE come back oh please!!!

you were such an awesome forum member i would dearly hate to see you go




friggen toolbag

Its always the most contributing members that are the hardest to let go :cry:

Yeah sorry mate, you asked us about a stupid car and we gave you an answer. Who honestly believes that someone would have an AWD Turbo with Air for $1000?

We gave you answers the question warranted? If your original post was better prepared and constructed ie; you mentioned you were buying a car sold as this, the answer would have been different.

cya!!!

I won't be back here again in a hurry.
Good, No one will miss you!

Clown.



Maybe you should go to the Skyline forums and see if there is an R34 GTR-TS Godzilla Quad Turbo with NOS for $500.

Maybe you should go to the Skyline forums and see if there is an R34 GTR-TS Godzilla Quad Turbo with NOS for $500.

my cousin just bought one of these bro, its fully hektik

500 hundred is a rip

i got mine for a 6-pack of Coldies and a pack of Peter Jackson Golds

and it does 7 sec 1/4s

Good, No one will miss you!

Clown.



Maybe you should go to the Skyline forums and see if there is an R34 GTR-TS Godzilla Quad Turbo with NOS for $500.

I have been told with the one with chrome wiper blades, LED washer nozzle jets, an LED exhaust tip, blue parker bulb, and stick on hood scoop does go substantially faster

So many quotes sum up this situation nicely...

Enjoi (http://www.cco.net/~jpete/deepthou.htm)