Hey,

It starts..... 8 months ago i was offered my g-fathers 94 tr v6 auto with 23724klms on the dial! All original not a beat over 3500rpm car.... original tyres!:dancin: It now has 48000klms :cool:
Put the rims on pronto, left stokies in garage. Tinted the windows, and put a stereo in.
The delemma is i dont want to sell the car, paid 4G (comments please)
Now i really want more go...

what are my options?

I want the manual bad, cant stand auto's.:headbange
And the 24v... Can the heads be swapped?????
I've done the K&N panel filter, iridium plugs.
this weekend i will be custom modifying the HORRIBLE 'T' in the original exhaust headers, into a nice 'Y' intersection and 2 1/2 in exhaust. another thread for that later..

What else OTHER than a full transplant and turbo conversion(OH! how sweeeeeet)
can i do??? Cheers!

DOHC Engine and Manual Gearbox.

Best bang for buck, if you are willing to do some hardcore modifications.

EDIT: Whoops, didnt read the part about anything OTHER than a transplant lol sorry.

Rear mount turbo seemed popular.

Other then that, you can bore out the engine a bit, pretty sure they go to 3.5L which should give you some more kwatfw lol

Also the Eaton M90 Supercharger can be applied to this engine, if you can find someone willing to put one on for you etc

if not, as said before, DOHC conversion is BEST bang for buck around

Maybe just go the manual install for starters.

Maybe just go the manual install for starters.

That'll cost him about a grand anyway if hes not DIY'ing so hes better off doing something with the engine while its out or putting in a DOHC

Has no-one tried the pajero heads?
Is there much to gain with aftermarket ignition. ie Crane hi6, MSD 6AL....
I'm even considering UNICHIP.... But cant do that until everything else is done(or @ same time)

edit, what boxes fit my car? will the 3.5 manual fit?

Has no-one tried the pajero heads?
Is there much to gain with aftermarket ignition. ie Crane hi6, MSD 6AL....
I'm even considering UNICHIP.... But cant do that until everything else is done(or @ same time)

edit, what boxes fit my car? will the 3.5 manual fit?

1) Which heads?
2) There is, but for the $1000ish you'll be paying, its not worth it for 5kw's
3) Dont think many 2nd genners have one of those, cept ones with modified engines..
4) No, as the 3rd gen engines are the other way around, only box that will fit is the manual out of the 2nd gen

The 24v heads from the pajero 3.0 v6.
As for the box Crapola! any1 got a box? can they be reconditiond cheap? Or throw away? $$$?

The 24v heads from the pajero 3.0 v6.
As for the box Crapola! any1 got a box? can they be reconditiond cheap? Or throw away? $$$?

Throw away:s

heads wont fit...KB tried...
I have a manual box, Except i think i'll use it

you would be mad to do much to an engine so low in mileage.

The 24v head will not fit as the galleries are different, i have compared the 2 gaskets and they do not align.

If you are going to play, get the dohc and keep your motor incase you want to return to standard again one day

is there any way of getting a new box to go with the 3.0. Seeing it's such low milage,
4 Sale: 1 4 speed auto done 50k for manual conversion kit..... LOL:poke:

is there any way of getting a new box to go with the 3.0. Seeing it's such low milage,
4 Sale: 1 4 speed auto done 50k for manual conversion kit..... LOL:poke:

Your better off keeping your auto, its basically brand new, Cars like yours are really REALLY hard to find but yeah....you'll probably have to ring up a few wreckers to see if they have any available, Most 2nd gens have done upwards of 150K though

hence the reconditioning.....if i get a manual. How reliable are the 5 speeds? what sort of kilom's are they good for. what goes wrong and to look for? will i need new C.V's?
i heard its a different computer aswell is this true?

hence the reconditioning.....if i get a manual. How reliable are the 5 speeds? what sort of kilom's are they good for. what goes wrong and to look for? will i need new C.V's?
i heard its a different computer aswell is this true?

Nah CV's are the same and you dont NEED a manual ECU but its easier if you can get one.

does it change power delivery or any thing? whats would the dif be in ecu?

Pretty sure there is a difference in the number of teeth on the drive-shaft. CVs themselves aren't different, but driveshafts are.

Pretty sure there is a difference in the number of teeth on the drive-shaft. CVs themselves aren't different, but driveshafts are.

Ive looked up the part numbers at work, there identical for v6 manual and Auto, diff for 4cyl's, pretty sure there were more splines on the v6 to cope with the extra torque, i could be wrong, ill let Madmagna have the final word in this:P

Back to the box... what problems do the manuals encounter?
what k's will they get reliably. If i get a 2nd, it will be freshened up as much as possible dont care about $ labour is free.....

Back to the box... what problems do the manuals encounter?
what k's will they get reliably. If i get a 2nd, it will be freshened up as much as possible dont care about $ labour is free.....

no problems i know of
Treat the box like **** and im sure it'll treat you the same way, bu no AFAIK the manuals hold up fine

Thanks Heaps! keep it commin.:fruitcake

Ok now i'm gunna do the manual con.... What before that?
Anything else that gets the kettle hotter?

once you've done zorst and headers, you've done most of the basics. After these basic mods, you might want to perhaps lower her and do some more visual upgrades. Any more performance upgrades will probably cost you a fair bit of money, and you're already exploring those options.

Yes do the manual conversion. The car will be heaps better to drive and you'll save a heap on petrol too. Pay for itself in couple of years if you drive a lot.

I had to do a double-take... only 20,000+ km when you got it? Nice!

Yeah 23000k's.... First things i did when i got her.

Timing belt! Mainly for age, everybody knows what time does to rubber.
Brake fliud flush...
Coolant,Oil Magnatec, fuel filter, oil filter, air filter,iridium plugs, cap and rotor.
Rocker cover gaskets were leakin so got them done too.
New battery cause it died about a week after having it.:doh:

Bout a grand i spent getting it up to brand SPANKIN NEW!

But now the c.v boots have gone and i got grease all in pretty swirls down the side of my nice white car..... getting them done soon.

Oh and to top it off, a truck droped a rock and cracked my widndscreen last week!:rant:

Soo really for 5 grand i got a NEW CAR (4g purchase price)

Never had trouble with my Manual box (on the TS Wagon) - and my cars done over 350,000kms.
Done two clutches tho :doubt: and the third may be on its way out (revs crept up as something slipped the other day while going up hill) :cry:

']Ive looked up the part numbers at work, there identical for v6 manual and Auto, diff for 4cyl's, pretty sure there were more splines on the v6 to cope with the extra torque, i could be wrong, ill let Madmagna have the final word in this:P
Mal should be able to set us right, but I have a vague recollection of a stuffup with the ordering of mine, and part of the stuffup was that the supplier's information had it as being one type, when the information in their books was actually incorrect. My mechanic was not impressed when he had to send them back twice!

Mal should be able to set us right, but I have a vague recollection of a stuffup with the ordering of mine, and part of the stuffup was that the supplier's information had it as being one type, when the information in their books was actually incorrect. My mechanic was not impressed when he had to send them back twice!


Sorry but what was sent back twice... ECU? or gearbox?

Sorry but what was sent back twice... ECU? or gearbox?
Driveshafts. Had both shafts/CVs replaced with brand-new ones, and the shafts they sent, which were correct according to their book, were NOT correct for a manual. Pretty sure it was a matter of manual vs auto rather than V6 vs 4cyl, as it was the number of splines rather than length that was the issue.

mate in my opinion if you want performance go all the way and get a dohc, if you want a decent enough car chuck in a manual box and it will go fine. i dont think its worth spending too much money trying to make it go fast cos there isnt much out there thats good value for money. i reckon youd be better chucking in the manual box, maybe doin the exhaust and then spending more money making it look good by colour coding it and doin a few simple things to make it look better, no point gettin peoples attention with an ugly old looking car

']Ive looked up the part numbers at work, there identical for v6 manual and Auto, diff for 4cyl's, pretty sure there were more splines on the v6 to cope with the extra torque, i could be wrong, ill let Madmagna have the final word in this:P

V6 auto and man CV joints are the same, (dont know anything about the 4-banger) i have V6 auto (second hand) joints in my V6 man car and they work a treat :D have a nice day

no point gettin peoples attention with an ugly old looking car

What the?:upyours: OLD.... LOL cmon not showin its age like the falcodores!:D

And i was a keen holden supporter till my recent investment!

What the?:upyours: OLD.... LOL cmon not showin its age like the falcodores!:D

And i was a keen holden supporter till my recent investment!

**** holden you got a pearler of a car now.
but ts3.0 has a point, the only mods you can do to these WITHIN REASOn is an exhaust, air filter, CAI and iridium plugs, anything more then that and you'll be beating 5L commodores with the DOHC

where can i source some 24v heads from and can some machining re-align the oil and or water ports?

where can i source some 24v heads from and can some machining re-align the oil and or water ports?

Not possible
If your lucky you can find a DOHC engine for as little as half a grand.
besides if you sold your engine you'd get a bit for it man....its basically brand new

I know you're after performance mods, which I know nothing about, but you've also done some cosmetic mods and I am wondering if you've tinted the guard repeaters - can't really tell in the pic - or if you're considering changing them to clear (from the 380)?:)

I reckon a lot of people wish they could pay about $5G for a car that sounds as brilliant as this.:thumbsup:

but you've also done some cosmetic mods and I am wondering if you've tinted the guard repeaters - can't really tell in the pic - or if you're considering changing them to clear (from the 380)?:)

I reckon a lot of people wish they could pay about $5G for a car that sounds as brilliant as this.:thumbsup:


I know BRAND NEW CAR for 5g, not often you see that, let alone get it.:D

As for the side blinkers it's been buggin me... gunna do em.
I am going to get the bumpers coded (to fix sratches and scrapes but that means top to bottom. After seein it i dont like it. too much i think. But it may grow on me..:doubt:

I've also painted the calipers and rotors silver 2 clean up behind the rims.
Oh Half badged it too. Taken the V6 and executive off...

by old i mainly meant the fact you have grey bumpers which you never see anymore cept for hilux utes, theres nothin wrong with the car obviously or i wouldnt own one i just meant better spending money on makin it look better by things like colour coding to modern it up a bit. white 2nd gens look sooooo much better after bein colour coded in my opinion. also other simple hings like parras, clear side indicators, verada tail lights, some sort of new grille all make it look alot nicer and more modern. once again in my opinion money better spent compared to the little to non gains for the same amount of cash

:stoopid: ... the difference after colour coding is so amazing you'll basically have a new car, that matched with some nice mods you've got yourselve a great ride!

Cheers,
Adz

:stoopid: ... the difference after colour coding is so amazing you'll basically have a new car, that matched with some nice mods you've got yourselve a great ride!

Cheers,
Adz
:stoopid::stoopid:

Agreed doubly as much, my car looked so much better after I put the awesome colour coded bumpers on it, none of this grey unpainted bull****!

Now whats a good price for colour coding.... i've been quoted about $500 front & rear....?
Is that too much?