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liberate
01-09-2007, 03:31 PM
my latest mod lol
lenda
01-09-2007, 03:33 PM
how much did it cost you, have u tried it yet.
liberate
01-09-2007, 03:35 PM
how much did it cost you, have u tried it yet.
na I havn't tried it yet, I have a bit of a gearbox problem I'm trying to sort out but I couldn't find anyehwre to get the bottle filled at 4:30pm on a Saturday night lol
Spackbace
01-09-2007, 03:35 PM
wet/dry? how much of a shot? how much it cost? have u considered painting the bottle so it doesnt look too......... rice? :)
smooth2
01-09-2007, 03:37 PM
does it work or is it just wank factor??
have u strengthened the motor or is it just stock??
liberate
01-09-2007, 03:37 PM
wet/dry? how much of a shot? how much it cost? have u considered painting the bottle so it doesnt look too......... rice? :)
Cost just under a grand all up. Its a dry fogger system and its a 75hp shot of n20 lol
If the bottle is painted no one will fill it. It has to be at whatever standars for places to fill it.
liberate
01-09-2007, 03:37 PM
does it work or is it just wank factor??
have u strengthened the motor or is it just stock??
yeah ofcourse it works!
lenda
01-09-2007, 03:37 PM
who did it for you?
Lucifer
01-09-2007, 03:38 PM
That's bloody good mate, well done!!! :D
What work have you done to the engine?
liberate
01-09-2007, 03:39 PM
That's bloody good mate, well done!!! :D
What work have you done to the engine?
nt much yet, I only picked the car up on Thursday. The system all works all the solenoids open up and everything. just need to fix the trans problems and go get the bottle filled lol
Lucifer
01-09-2007, 03:44 PM
nt much yet, I only picked the car up on Thursday. The system all works all the solenoids open up and everything. just need to fix the trans problems and go get the bottle filled lol
So it's just stock internals? Let us know how it goes :D
NOSDTL
01-09-2007, 03:49 PM
if that fuel line is hooked up it'll be a wet system. looks the goods:cool:
if that fuel line is hooked up it'll be a wet system. looks the goods:cool:
Doesn't wet go through injectors, mixed with fuel, hence wet? Looks like a dry system to me.
I've closely considered this... you get a car that runs 13s, idles properly, doesn't chew fuel, and the cost is less than two camshafts.
Where'd you install the purge valve?
NOSDTL
01-09-2007, 04:01 PM
wet system has fuel added with nos. dry system only has nos injected then you need your injectors to do the extra fueling. it'll use a fan spray nossle instead of a fogger
lenda
01-09-2007, 04:01 PM
6 people looking at the post all at once lol. does anyone know if anyone does this i perth?
Hope your running a piggyback at minimum btw...
veradabeast
01-09-2007, 04:23 PM
The lower compression of the 3.5 shouldn't really necessitate any ignition retardation, and it's only a relatively small boost. I guess the only way to find out is to use it.
What size bottle are you using?
The next thing to do it tap 6 foggers into the plenum and really boost her up :badgrin:
that is definately a wet nos system (i'd know, i've got one! :))
i'm interested in knowing the exact nozzles you used to get the 75 shot. i'm currently upgrading my 50 shot to a 75 shot. i just need to know the nozzle numbers.
put in a Denso 500hp fuel pump last w/e for a bit of extra fuel. the pump is a straight swap (for those of u playing at home).
a grand is not a bad price if it's a brand-new kit. let me know if you need re-fills. mine cost me $130 a pop and with the new laws EVERY nos supplier needs to keep a log of who's buying nos, what for and when. the guy i use has got a LEGAL way around that so let me know if ur interested.
veradabeast: that is a 10pound bottle, btw :)
liberate: couldn't you have mounted the bottle somewhere a bit less conspicuous(sp)?
Black Beard
01-09-2007, 07:30 PM
not really a stealth install. Doesn't the bonnet hit on those hoses when its shut?
wendnarb
01-09-2007, 07:41 PM
from my research guys it doesnt matter if your running it on stock internals! if its only a smallish shot then it wont screw up anything(just look at meh's) anddddddd you shouldnt need a piggy back either, although this would prob extract alot more power outta it!
speaking of meh? where is he? havent seen him in a while!
liberate
01-09-2007, 08:45 PM
not really a stealth install. Doesn't the bonnet hit on those hoses when its shut?
na just misses them lol.
I'm using the 36 jet for Nitrous and the 24 jet for Fuel. Yeah its a 10 pound bottle and I know its not a very stealth install but where else are you supposed to put a 10 pound nitrous bottle lol
liberate
01-09-2007, 08:48 PM
that is definately a wet nos system (i'd know, i've got one! :))
i'm interested in knowing the exact nozzles you used to get the 75 shot. i'm currently upgrading my 50 shot to a 75 shot. i just need to know the nozzle numbers.
put in a Denso 500hp fuel pump last w/e for a bit of extra fuel. the pump is a straight swap (for those of u playing at home).
a grand is not a bad price if it's a brand-new kit. let me know if you need re-fills. mine cost me $130 a pop and with the new laws EVERY nos supplier needs to keep a log of who's buying nos, what for and when. the guy i use has got a LEGAL way around that so let me know if ur interested.
veradabeast: that is a 10pound bottle, btw :)
liberate: couldn't you have mounted the bottle somewhere a bit less conspicuous(sp)?
Theres a place in Adelaide CBD called outlaw speed shop who have a propper pump and will fill the bottle for $115. They dont keep records or anything like that. I walk in pay the money, they fill the bottle and I'll walk out again lol
Cobra82
02-09-2007, 12:01 AM
Theres a place in Adelaide CBD called outlaw speed shop who have a propper pump and will fill the bottle for $115. They dont keep records or anything like that. I walk in pay the money, they fill the bottle and I'll walk out again lol
Good old Outlaw Speed Shop. Commordore bogan heaven that place is.
Black Beard
02-09-2007, 05:16 AM
na just misses them lol.
I'm using the 36 jet for Nitrous and the 24 jet for Fuel. Yeah its a 10 pound bottle and I know its not a very stealth install but where else are you supposed to put a 10 pound nitrous bottle lol
Fair enough - but I wasn't talking about the bottle. I was more referring to the fact pretty much the first thing anyone will see when they open the bonnet is 2x very un-stock looking braided lines leading to Nos fittings cut straight into the top of the intake pipe. It wouldn't have been hard put it on the underside of the intake piping and conceal the braided lines...... but each to their own.
el3ment
02-09-2007, 05:30 AM
Fair enough - but I wasn't talking about the bottle. I was more referring to the fact pretty much the first thing anyone will see when they open the bonnet is 2x very un-stock looking braided lines leading to Nos fittings cut straight into the top of the intake pipe. It wouldn't have been hard put it on the underside of the intake piping and conceal the braided lines...... but each to their own.
I was thinking the same thing. I would have hidden it more.
But grats on the nos mate
andrewd
02-09-2007, 05:31 AM
Fair enough - but I wasn't talking about the bottle. I was more referring to the fact pretty much the first thing anyone will see when they open the bonnet is 2x very un-stock looking braided lines leading to Nos fittings cut straight into the top of the intake pipe. It wouldn't have been hard put it on the underside of the intake piping and conceal the braided lines...... but each to their own.
:stoopid:
wouldnt be hard to do a stealth install
then at the lights when all of a sudden this stock magna is still keeping up with a hsv after he's gunned it :badgrin:
hmmm gives me an idea! now that im not supercharged anymore....
might look at nos for a it of fun..
cos i was putting 100+ kw more through a stock magna engine when supercharged constantly!
but with nos the extra HP is there only when activated, so in theory an extra 150hp would easily be handled by the magna engine in short doses :badgrin:
hmmmmmm...... :badgrin:
andrewd
02-09-2007, 05:38 AM
(i'd know, i've got one! :))
so how does it go with the extra 50hp????
im keen on getting one now, might keep the mag, the s/c had to go so the g/f can drive it legally....
but mmmm s/c on demand lol
damn magna is sill but in the merc i have a couple of spots where you could hide the bottle and see nothing at all.... perfect for the traffic light grand prix :P
codapane
02-09-2007, 05:40 AM
nt much yet, I only picked the car up on Thursday. The system all works all the solenoids open up and everything. just need to fix the trans problems and go get the bottle filled lol
do you have a new motor on order yet then?
mattkeane88
02-09-2007, 11:36 AM
don't you get in serious **** if you are caught with it connected on public roads? Even if your not using it?
so how does it go with the extra 50hp????
im keen on getting one now, might keep the mag, the s/c had to go so the g/f can drive it legally....
but mmmm s/c on demand lol
damn magna is sill but in the merc i have a couple of spots where you could hide the bottle and see nothing at all.... perfect for the traffic light grand prix :P
Sports
02-09-2007, 11:52 AM
don't you get in serious **** if you are caught with it connected on public roads? Even if your not using it?
Yep...
Matty_J
02-09-2007, 12:22 PM
don't you get in serious **** if you are caught with it connected on public roads? Even if your not using it?
Yeh thats exactly why everyone is saying to go for a more hidden approach instead of it being smack bang in the middle of the boot not to mention the braids under the bonnet!!
Regardless well done and congrats im sure its going to be fun to test out :thumbsup:
let us know how she goes!!
Fuzzlet
02-09-2007, 12:30 PM
The fitting on the intake looks like its ready to pop off at the first available moment...
Yep...
Don't think it's a little slap on the wrist either... main thing that turned me off it.
Sports
02-09-2007, 01:09 PM
I dont see the point of it either, $120 a refill approx. and you get 7-10 runs down the drags out of it, that's 1 night usually and even then you dont have that power all the time, seems like a waste to me and I always think what's the point.
NOSDTL
02-09-2007, 01:45 PM
can't really notice it on mine. unless from the right angles
MAGNA
02-09-2007, 01:52 PM
need to hide the bottle?
1> build a sub box and put a sub in it (reverse mount it if you need the space in the box)
2> hide the nos bottle inside the enclosure
problem solvered.
andrewd
02-09-2007, 01:59 PM
need to hide the bottle?
1> build a sub box and put a sub in it (reverse mount it if you need the space in the box)
2> hide the nos bottle inside the enclosure
problem solvered.
ahhh hard work lol
why not invent NOS in a can.... i know there is the NOS energy drink lol
but hidden system hidden lines into the cup holders and you can of nos good for one use once used simply recycle :) cops pull you over.... Nah man thats red bull, gave my car wings.... thats why it flys :bowrofl:
it is possible to do a completley steath installation and even if the cops look it over they wont find any trace of it, it has been done many times before
and it's not as dangerous as ppl make it out to be...
n2o isnt flammable its an oxidiser, so the nos wont catch on fire like a can of lawnmower petrol in the boot will lol but if your car is burning... it will add serious rage to the fire... who cares anyway... if my car is in flames im either already dead or the dudes who stole it soon will be
hedgie
02-09-2007, 02:37 PM
ahhh hard work lol
why not invent NOS in a can.... i know there is the NOS energy drink
but hidden system hidden lines into the cup holders and you can of nos good for one use once used simply recycle :) cops pull you over.... Nah man thats red bull, gave my car wings.... thats why it flys :bowrofl:
it is possible to do a completley steath installation and even if the cops look it over they wont find any trace of it, it has been done many times before
and it's not as dangerous as ppl make it out to be...
n2o isnt flammable its an oxidiser, so the nos wont catch on fire like a can of lawnmower petrol in the boot will lol but if your car is burning... it will add serious rage to the fire... who cares anyway... if my car is in flames im either already dead or the dudes who stole it soon will be
haha that's f**kn genius! i love it, one use cans ya screw into your console. that would solve the whole illegal problem aswell.!:bowrofl:
I agree with the whole stealth install tho coz have fun putting anything in your boot now, but serious props for doing it all.... magna's in the next fast and furious?
SYSTEM6
02-09-2007, 04:23 PM
he deff mounted it smack in da middle of the boot 4 wank factor same with the braided lines that stick out like tits on a dogs balls lol, but his heart is in the right place lol
MAGNA
02-09-2007, 06:51 PM
Is this what you were thinking of:
NOS Sneeky Pete Kit makes a great secret weapon!
The Sneeky Pete was designed as a true "Cheater Kit." This kit will enable you to obtain that extra tenth of a second without being obvious. It will be necessary to jet the carburetors a little richer (over and above what is normal, since you will have to compensate for the nitrous from the Sneeky Pete) while being "sneeky" since no additional fuel source is utilized. The kit comes complete with a compact, easy to conceal 10oz. bottle, nitrous solenoid, nylon nitrous line, wiring, 9v battery holder and an assortment of jets. Carry it in a briefcase!
Totally portable system installs in minutes. Uses two 9volt batteries for power. The ultimate trick!
andrewd
02-09-2007, 07:34 PM
Is this what you were thinking of:
hmmm i have heard of that before
i wonder if it will work on a 2t hot vespa :badgrin:
hahahaha fastest old stock looking street vespa i know of in aus runs 13.9 1/4's 150cc my 172cc with nos and if i loose 50kg would have to be close lol
Lucifer
02-09-2007, 08:43 PM
hmmm i have heard of that before
i wonder if it will work on a 2t hot vespa :badgrin:
hahahaha fastest old stock looking street vespa i know of in aus runs 13.9 1/4's 150cc my 172cc with nos and if i loose 50kg would have to be close lol
If you can stay on the thing when you hit the NOS dude :bowrofl:
Apollo441
02-09-2007, 08:55 PM
I have to say some of the ways the nos is hidden in the Fast and the furious are clever..
BiG 4 CyL
02-09-2007, 09:11 PM
I dont see the point of it either, $120 a refill approx. and you get 7-10 runs down the drags out of it, that's 1 night usually and even then you dont have that power all the time, seems like a waste to me and I always think what's the point.
slightly cheaper than an sc kit lol
NORBY
02-09-2007, 09:12 PM
slightly cheaper than an sc kit lol
not permanent though :(
i got 12 runs out of one bottle
lucky i can run two bottles in the car at one time :D
mines kinda stealth. it was alot more when i had the bottom half of the battery box
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/mehhh/newengine.jpg
liberate
03-09-2007, 06:39 AM
I want to get the metal pipe from the throttle body made up and use a pod. If you use a pod do you remove your airflow metre then have the car tuned or hows that work?
just get a pipe made up so it goes to the afm then have the pod on the other side
i dont need an afm caz i run haltec
binzer
03-09-2007, 09:08 AM
wow... i never really thought people put this stuff to the road...
got an interesting yet real danegrous near NOS experiance
my 4 brothers and I tried to "NOS" our 1987 XR80 motorbike by sticky taping a butane refill areosol can next to the air filter and poking a nozzle extension through the air filter....
WHAT A TERRIBLE NOISE....and ALOT OF SMOKE.....the bike no longer went.....HAHAHAHAH
but we were satisfied..........we sure got the NOS effect.....
but in neutral.. HAHAHAHAHA
liberate
03-09-2007, 09:47 AM
just get a pipe made up so it goes to the afm then have the pod on the other side
i dont need an afm caz i run haltec
woult the pipe brake over time? cos the pipe that goes from the throttle body to the airflow metre is rubber with a like springy bendy part in it. So if that pipe was metal wouldn't it brake over time cos its attatched to the tb which will move with the engine and the airbox which is bolted to the car.
Lucifer
03-09-2007, 10:12 AM
wow... i never really thought people put this stuff to the road...
got an interesting yet real danegrous near NOS experiance
my 4 brothers and I tried to "NOS" our 1987 XR80 motorbike by sticky taping a butane refill areosol can next to the air filter and poking a nozzle extension through the air filter....
WHAT A TERRIBLE NOISE....and ALOT OF SMOKE.....the bike no longer went.....HAHAHAHAH
but we were satisfied..........we sure got the NOS effect.....
but in neutral.. HAHAHAHAHA
Nitrous Oxide is an oxidiser... Butane is combustible... You're a goddamn idiot :bowrofl:
Phonic
03-09-2007, 10:15 AM
woult the pipe brake over time? cos the pipe that goes from the throttle body to the airflow metre is rubber with a like springy bendy part in it. So if that pipe was metal wouldn't it brake over time cos its attatched to the tb which will move with the engine and the airbox which is bolted to the car.
You could just use a silicone join for the 90 degree bend. This should have sufficient flexibility to dampen any movement.
binzer
03-09-2007, 10:18 AM
Nitrous Oxide is an oxidiser... Butane is combustible... You're a goddamn idiot :bowrofl:
of course we knew that.. but as if a bunch of 7 to 14 year olds are going to go out and buy a NOS kit......so we picked out something that we knew would definatly light up pretty quick...make a nice pop
fast and the furious is a BADDDDDDD influence on little kids..lol
liberate
03-09-2007, 10:28 AM
of course we knew that.. but as if a bunch of 7 to 14 year olds are going to go out and buy a NOS kit......so we picked out something that we knew would definatly light up pretty quick...make a nice pop
fast and the furious is a BADDDDDDD influence on little kids..lol
the fast and the furious is a bad influence on big kids too lol like me:bowrofl:
APRdude2
03-09-2007, 10:45 AM
yeah dude i cant wait to get a ride in it once you sort out the trans prob. have fun with the nos
liberate
03-09-2007, 10:50 AM
yeah dude i cant wait to get a ride in it once you sort out the trans prob. have fun with the nos
yeh man for sure. Mark from exhaust tech wants to see it all up and running aswell :bowrofl:
woult the pipe brake over time? cos the pipe that goes from the throttle body to the airflow metre is rubber with a like springy bendy part in it. So if that pipe was metal wouldn't it brake over time cos its attatched to the tb which will move with the engine and the airbox which is bolted to the car.
nah shouldnt break. mines bolted to the car aswell near the pod
liberate
03-09-2007, 11:06 AM
nah shouldnt break. mines bolted to the car aswell near the pod
oh ok might do that then. What shapes the ends of your pipe meh?
Oval one end and circle the other? cos wouldn't that be hard for somewhere to make up?
its made specifically for my pod. they'll just make one up to suit yur afm. wouldnt be a problem at all
liberate
03-09-2007, 11:27 AM
its made specifically for my pod. they'll just make one up to suit yur afm. wouldnt be a problem at all
ok awesome, so a custom exhaust/intercooler shop would be able to do it?
yep any place could do it nice n easy :D
lol Thats pretty neat.
My suggestion though, keep you hands well clear of that NOS button in traffic, it could get ugly! :bowrofl:
i have to say that even a relatively 'small' 50 shot of nos makes a BIG difference.
i'll get some pics up of my kit soon.
my solenoids are mounted directly underneath the standard air-box and spray-painted jet black. ALL the braided lines have been taped up in black electrical tape (not the best thing to use but it's all i had at the time). i made my own adapter (out of aluminium) that squeezes quite nicely into the bottom air-resonator hole and the soft-plume nozzle screws directly into that. my 10 pound bottle is mounted to the far left-hand corner of my boot and is ALWAYS covered with jumpers and paperwork and computer crap. i'm in the process of making a dividing wall that encloses it completely (just cbf atm)!
only had 2 "squirts" since i got my re-fill. dont' want to waste the giggle-gas lol lol !!
i can see this is going to be an expensive addiction :bowrofl:
p.s. i believe a nos "button" is also a wank-factor....too Fast & Furious (unless it's an AUTO)
Phonic
05-09-2007, 12:53 PM
p.s. i believe a nos "button" is also a wank-factor....too Fast & Furious (unless it's an AUTO)
Have you got it to automatically squirt at full throttle when it's armed?
liberate
08-09-2007, 06:34 PM
cars back on the road now so If I can get somewhere to fill the bottle tommorow I'll be able to try it all out lol
ralliart#100
08-09-2007, 07:59 PM
I hate to be the wet blanket here, but, running NOZ in SA is a $5000 on the spot fine, having the bottle in the holder is a fine, even if it is not connected! I know this because I have NOZ too. Hide the system, hide the bottle, hide the controller and the wet nozzle system. Put the nozzles in the air filter box and hide the lines in rubber heater core hose's, the cops can take your car now with the new laws.
PS...Out Law Speed Shop in the city can fill it for you so can OG Speed Shop, its about $10-$11 per pound ie 10lb bottle $110 to fill
lenda
08-09-2007, 08:01 PM
cars back on the road now so If I can get somewhere to fill the bottle tommorow I'll be able to try it all out lol
what about in WA
GRDPuck
08-09-2007, 08:08 PM
...I know this because I have NOZ too...Have you used it?
What was it like?
Any changes to the Ralliart Internals?
Any effects (good & bad)?
Cost?
(PM me if you don't want the info public - ignore any question you don't want to answer ;))
liberate
09-09-2007, 05:14 PM
I hate to be the wet blanket here, but, running NOZ in SA is a $5000 on the spot fine, having the bottle in the holder is a fine, even if it is not connected! I know this because I have NOZ too. Hide the system, hide the bottle, hide the controller and the wet nozzle system. Put the nozzles in the air filter box and hide the lines in rubber heater core hose's, the cops can take your car now with the new laws.
PS...Out Law Speed Shop in the city can fill it for you so can OG Speed Shop, its about $10-$11 per pound ie 10lb bottle $110 to fill
yeah I thought it would be something like that. well I hope I dont get caught cos that would be like a second car loan lol.
Do you know what the fines would be for not obeying the cops and not opening your bonnet or boot, cos they cant actually open them yourself.
Trotty
09-09-2007, 06:26 PM
I think they just send you to the pits.... NO escaping.:cry:
And if you dont turn up in a certain amount of time they come lookin for you with a fine and possible jail time...:rant:
I had numerous defects in a car that was pulled ova. i detourd and fixed a couple and went, still got me for 7 all up. Very costly:doubt:
NO NOS though... HAHA
Black Beard
09-09-2007, 06:35 PM
Do you know what the fines would be for not obeying the cops and not opening your bonnet or boot, cos they cant actually open them yourself.
No Fine...... they'll just slap the cuffs on ya, throw you in the paddywagon for a trip down to the watchhouse for obstruction. Then they'll call some inbred tow truck driver to take your car to the nearest Department of Transport inspection station.
liberate
09-09-2007, 06:36 PM
I didn't know they could send you straight to the inspection station....
Matty_J
09-09-2007, 06:36 PM
yeah I thought it would be something like that. well I hope I dont get caught cos that would be like a second car loan lol.
Do you know what the fines would be for not obeying the cops and not opening your bonnet or boot, cos they cant actually open them yourself.
Dude if the cops wish to inspect under your bonnet they will do so anyway with or without your permission!!
Just make sure all his hidden and you shouldnt have any probz!!
liberate
09-09-2007, 06:38 PM
Dude if the cops wish to inspect under your bonnet they will do so anyway with or without your permission!!
Just make sure all his hidden and you shouldnt have any probz!!
na they're not allowed to. last time I got defected they asked me to pop the bonnet nd so I pulled the lever then stoiod there nd waited for the cop to open it but he said for me to cos they wern't allowed to touch the car
Trotty
09-09-2007, 06:39 PM
They arent allowed to touch the car without given reason..... I think refusal is good enough REASON dont you?
Apollo441
09-09-2007, 07:59 PM
Because people could say it was planted there. Same with airport security they let you open the bag otherwise you can say that the inspector put it in.
It's hard to say the cop planted nos wires but, it could hold up in court, saying something like you were sitting in the car while the cop looked in the engine bay.
No Fine...... they'll just slap the cuffs on ya, throw you in the paddywagon for a trip down to the watchhouse for obstruction. Then they'll call some inbred tow truck driver to take your car to the nearest Department of Transport inspection station.
up here u get the maximum pentalty for a defect which is 3 points, cant remember the $$ amount, and u have to go through the pits.
u cannot have the system fitted at all. nothing. not even have it in without a bottle its still a defect
Have you used it?
What was it like?
Any changes to the Ralliart Internals?
Any effects (good & bad)?
Cost?
(PM me if you don't want the info public - ignore any question you don't want to answer ;))
i got it on my ralliart engine. stock internals got 240 hp at the wheels
Mafia
10-09-2007, 04:44 PM
U gotta be pretty careful with this NOS in ya car been pulled over by cops n had 2 do some pretty good talking 2 get out of why i have nos in my car n they have the right to check ya car they never used 2 be able 2 like they couldnt pull ya over for no reason but time changes.
I have a 10pnd adjustable kit 75HP 2 150HP with a twin purge kit gaining some nice KW at da wheels. Get bout 5 runs a bottle. Third trans now pulling alot of power still hitting wheel spin bout 120 and getting quick jolts every time change gear (meaning steering wheel being ripped n car getting some sways left 2 right so hold tight!) make sure u using in second or higher or putting alot of stress on trans.
Refills OUTLAWS in adelaide $111 for 10pnd bottle :cool:
The last 2 pages of this thread hurt my head. 400hp at the engine = 300kW ATW??
Wow... just realised how thick I was.
Ignore everything I posted.
Should be like 400hp = 300kw at engine... which is roughly 300hp at wheel... but like Meh said 150hp shot doesn't fully deliver what it quotes so yeah, 220ish kws atw. Still not bad.
I've thought about the n2o thing and pretty much the best thing I could come up with that was the safest was was a modified "NOS Sneaky Pete" system (Designed for bikes). Tiny bottle good for say, a trip to the drag strip, nothing installed but prepped, throw the lines down and plug the bottle in, say in the engine-bay - no need for a bottle warmer or purge because it's all right there in the heat and only a short distance from the intake.
Not sure on the fueling side though, it's been a while since I was seriously considering it but you could say, have a Y adapter pre-FPR that you can install at the strip and install the fogger in your intake, if you have a TH smoker style intake you could have the straight stainless 3" drilled & tapped and put the fogger in there otherwise you could use a blank to screw in when not using it.
Although a sneaky-pete bottle is 3 pound or something tiny, but hey, you either get defected or you be sneaky.. ;)
One thing I have NO IDEA on is whether you can be done for CARRYING the nitros, even not installed, simply in a backpack/bag on your backseat etc in QLD you get done if any part of the system is installed on your car, eg lines laid but no fogger or bottle.
One thing I have NO IDEA on is whether you can be done for CARRYING the nitros, even not installed, simply in a backpack/bag on your backseat etc in QLD you get done if any part of the system is installed on your car, eg lines laid but no fogger or bottle.
yes you can be done for having anything to do with nitrous in your car
thats what i was told from one of the head defect people
Phonic
11-09-2007, 01:49 PM
yes you can be done for having anything to do with nitrous in your car
thats what i was told from one of the head defect people
So if you use Nitrous on the track, you would need some sort of chemicals transport permit or something similar?
I've thought about the n2o thing and pretty much the best thing I could come up with that was the safest was was a modified "NOS Sneaky Pete" system (Designed for bikes). Tiny bottle good for say, a trip to the drag strip, nothing installed but prepped, throw the lines down and plug the bottle in, say in the engine-bay - no need for a bottle warmer or purge because it's all right there in the heat and only a short distance from the intake.
Not sure on the fueling side though, it's been a while since I was seriously considering it but you could say, have a Y adapter pre-FPR that you can install at the strip and install the fogger in your intake, if you have a TH smoker style intake you could have the straight stainless 3" drilled & tapped and put the fogger in there otherwise you could use a blank to screw in when not using it.
Although a sneaky-pete bottle is 3 pound or something tiny, but hey, you either get defected or you be sneaky.. ;)
One thing I have NO IDEA on is whether you can be done for CARRYING the nitros, even not installed, simply in a backpack/bag on your backseat etc in QLD you get done if any part of the system is installed on your car, eg lines laid but no fogger or bottle.
So much effort for a run and those bottles are tiny.
Like it's been suggested before, a big sealed sub box in the boot + black lines going into the bottom/back of the air intake is going to fool most pigs.
Generally if you don't go round fully sick purging everywhere and aren't using it in traffic or public places you probably won't get pulled over in the first place and would be cursed to be unlucky enough to get busted with it.
LeGiOnAiR
11-09-2007, 02:48 PM
So if you use Nitrous on the track, you would need some sort of chemicals transport permit or something similar?
Thats possible. It is a chemical that (when mixed with certain elements) is flammable.
Cocopopz
14-09-2007, 05:06 AM
Thats possible. It is a chemical that (when mixed with certain elements) is flammable.
n20 is not flamable Nitrogen is used to put out fires, its is a fire depresent and last time i checked oxygen is not flamable. No permit is needed to transpost a 10pound bottle.
Cocopopz
14-09-2007, 05:10 AM
yes you can be done for having anything to do with nitrous in your car
thats what i was told from one of the head defect people
In vic you are allowed to have all axillaries installed just no bottle connected. its the fact that if you do get pulled over and they see all the n20 stuff in there its just going to make them want to find something to do you with.
oxygen is not flamable
Nitrous oxide breaks down at high temperatures into nitrogen and oxygen. If your car catches on fire and nos bottle bursts the extra oxygen will turn the fire from a dirty burning red flame into something like an oxy torch.
liberate
15-09-2007, 12:06 AM
Nitrous oxide breaks down at high temperatures into nitrogen and oxygen. If your car catches on fire and nos bottle bursts the extra oxygen will turn the fire from a dirty burning red flame into something like an oxy torch.
you'd want to hope it didn't burst open then ey!
Shaggy
17-08-2008, 08:11 AM
sorry for pulling a old thread up, but out of curiousity, what would the efects of nos be on a worked engin? with new cams, head work and raised comp? would it put the engin under to much strain with the higher comp?
Lucifer
17-08-2008, 09:40 AM
sorry for pulling a old thread up, but out of curiousity, what would the efects of nos be on a worked engin? with new cams, head work and raised comp? would it put the engin under to much strain with the higher comp?
Yes, the higher compression with the introduction of the oxidising agent and additional fuel would put a greater strain on the engine...
Shaggy
17-08-2008, 10:17 AM
would i be able to run nos tho without blowing any thing up with the higher comp?
Killzone
17-08-2008, 10:23 AM
would i be able to run nos tho without blowing any thing up with the higher comp?
The user "meh" ran nitrous on his TE alot of times. It had 300,000k until it died.
So I would say theres no need for any upgrading until you want to get serious with it. For a few track days though it should be fine.
Shaggy
17-08-2008, 11:09 AM
ok well what im planing is i want to get the 3.5l v6 and a new auto box (just the 4 speed, straight swap with what i have) and rebuild them, strengthen the tranny a bit and then with the engin rebuild and balance it nicly and put higher comp pistons in, looking at maby stage two cams from RPW, and then i was thinking of maby getting nos on that so thats my thorts, can any one give me there thorts?
magna00
17-08-2008, 11:14 AM
ok well what im planing is i want to get the 3.5l v6 and a new auto box (just the 4 speed, straight swap with what i have) and rebuild them, strengthen the tranny a bit and then with the engin rebuild and balance it nicly and put higher comp pistons in, looking at maby stage two cams from RPW, and then i was thinking of maby getting nos on that so thats my thorts, can any one give me there thorts?
First up its thoughts, and yeah sounds good except for the auto, ditch it and get a manual, with some 10.1 pistons, a stage 2 or eqiv cam, some headwork ARP headbolts with a manual should net you around 160-170kw easily enough, price will probably be around 6-10k depending on if your handy with a spanner or not.
Shaggy
17-08-2008, 11:49 AM
lol yeh my spelling isnt the greatest, but i also dont really try ether in forums to correct it. ill be doing most of the work my self, i dont really want to go through all the manual conversion stuff, to much money i think for that, just easier i think to get another 4 speed auto and doing some work on that, i just planed on getting the engin and tranny from the wreckers on the cheap and go from there any way
Trotty
17-08-2008, 03:37 PM
lol yeh my spelling isnt the greatest, but i also dont really try ether in forums to correct it. ill be doing most of the work my self, i dont really want to go through all the manual conversion stuff, to much money i think for that, just easier i think to get another 4 speed auto and doing some work on that, i just planed on getting the engin and tranny from the wreckers on the cheap and go from there any way
The conversion would be cheaper than trying to DO UP a 4 speeder slushbox.....
and if your serious about making power why waste it in goin through an auto?:nuts:
Shaggy
18-08-2008, 11:00 AM
becauss thats like 2 grand or what ever i can spend on the engin, or would it be cheaper to do the manual conversion like this? because im just thinking that it would be easier like this
ar3nbe
18-08-2008, 11:16 AM
some headwork ARP headbolts .
Think your mean ARP rod bolts. Iv been told theres no need to upgrading the headbolt in our motors, but a big need for the rod bolts.
Lucifer
18-08-2008, 12:23 PM
Think your mean ARP rod bolts. Iv been told theres no need to upgrading the headbolt in our motors, but a big need for the rod bolts.
Better safe than sorry really, ARP headbolts along with rod bolts would be a good investment when you're planning on happy gas.
Shaggy
19-08-2008, 09:49 AM
just out of interest with what i have posted on this tread, what would be cheaper, rebuilding a auto box? (which i will be doing) or doing a manual conversion? i will be doing all or most of the work my self to my car and the rebuild
GT-Pete
19-08-2008, 10:00 AM
The conversion would be cheaper than trying to DO UP a 4 speeder slushbox.....
and if your serious about making power why waste it in goin through an auto?:nuts:
see here
Shaggy
19-08-2008, 11:33 AM
lol guess i should have payed more attention to that comment. ok well thanks for all, i shall get back to you when i start my project soon
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