Hi guys, has anyone used or know about the hiclone fuel saver system. Its a small fan that is instaled into the air intake to spin the air into the engine. The manufacture says that you get 10% more power, save up to 20% on you fuel bill and reduce emissions up to 50%. Is this true ?

Hi guys, has anyone used or know about the hiclone fuel saver system. Its a small fan that is instaled into the air intake to spin the air into the engine. The manufacture says that you get 10% more power, save up to 20% on you fuel bill and reduce emissions up to 50%. Is this true ?
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if anything it has a negavite affect, because the blades of the fan restric air flow into the engine.... i think there was a big post on the forum somewhere about it

Yep Been here Done before.... DUD:nuts:

Hi guys, has anyone used or know about the hiclone fuel saver system. Its a small fan that is instaled into the air intake to spin the air into the engine. The manufacture says that you get 10% more power, save up to 20% on you fuel bill and reduce emissions up to 50%. Is this true ?

if it does what its manufacturer says it does, the all car companies would have installed it into their cars to comply with the latest euro emissions standards. it would save them alot of money instead of spending millions to remap ecu's or r&d to create a more efficient engine and exhaust system.

just stick to the fact, what you find in F1 cars today you'll soon find in your normal everyday cars.

just stick to the fact, what you find in F1 cars today you'll soon find in your normal everyday cars.


racing slicks and single seats?:P

just stick to the fact, what you find in F1 cars today you'll soon find in your normal everyday cars.

I wouldnt mind finding one of them "fernando alonso"'s in my car. Would definitely make getting places in a hurry alot easier.

funny buggers aren't ya??? but you knew what i ment!

funny buggers aren't ya??? but you knew what i ment!

See the all new Mitsu 380 MIVEC Yo! with factory optioned Kimi Raikkonnen! :D

See the all new Mitsu 380 MIVEC Yo! with factory optioned Kimi Raikkonnen! :D

narh i would have paid extra for the Lewis Hamilton package, it comes with the driver's championship on debut

racing slicks and single seats?:P
Sounds about right.

are any of them optioned with your own group of promo girls?

:bowrofl:

I love these threads, sticky this please :)

Back to topic, I had one of these on my previous Ford Laser. Now they claim they have much better effect on a carby, but I know it did make a difference. I can absolutely swear the engine ran smoother and quiter, I guess kind of the opposite of the sound difference in having a K & N air filter from what I hear, and I always found myself changing gear later, because the power didnt drop of as early. Without it, I never wanted felt the urge to go to redline, so there was a definite change there. I can say that I thought the car felt more powerful, more so in the upper range of the rev band.

however as the car is not very powerful, the car was ways always driven very hard, and my fuel consumption actually went up. Since I got the car I have monitored fuel consumption, the accuarate way by always filling to the very brim. I guess the claim for more power and better economy is bull****, its either more power but worse economy if you use the power. However I was thinking in a V6 magna, the engine is not going to be nearly driven as hard all the time, so im guessing it might improve consumption overall, while still having more power when you use it occasionaly.

By the way it is not a fan in that it does not move, it is supposed to swirl the air. Also for those that say if it worked it would be incorporated in new cars, well it actually is. A few cars, one in know is the mazda 2.3 engine found in the Mazda6 and Mazda3 and have researched a bit as my dad has one, actually have 'tumble flaps' which are flaps that stick out in the intake at low speeds to swirl the air and aid economy and torque, but are retracted at higher engine speeds to improve fast air flow. This is based on the same kind of principle.

*** Runs for shelter from abuse...... ***

i cant see how swirling the air can make your car run better

Creates a more even and disperse mixture of air and fuel, which would help create a more complete, clean and powerful burn. The fuel is never completely burnt, hence why runnign your car slightly richer than at stoichmetric which is the most effective mixture, will give your car more power. Swirling obviously helps to reduce the amount of unburnt fuel. Newer high tech modern engines are much better at this, which is why I would think that hiclone claim the best gains with a carby, as they are extremely poor at controlling mixture and being older technology engines are not as efficient.

This is why you dont polish your runners in a carby engine.... doesn't mix the fuel aswell. It might be ok for flat out driving all the time,But at slow air speeds the fuel sticks to the walls and dribbles into the engine. More turbulance might be better for carby, after the fuel has gone in, as the throttle body will correct flow on intake.... voiding any benefit of the restriction, oops i mean turbulance on the air filter side of the carby.

Most injected cars wont benifit as the fuel is sprayed directly (almost) onto the back of the valve.... meaning any turbulance(restriction) before this point will decrease power......:nuts:

the theory behind the design is ok, it just doesn't work that well on a car. if you get a bottle full of water and turn it upside and time how long it takes for the water to run out, then do the same thing but swirl the water, the swirling water will empty first.

the theory behind the design is ok, it just doesn't work that well on a car. if you get a bottle full of water and turn it upside and time how long it takes for the water to run out, then do the same thing but swirl the water, the swirling water will empty first.

The bottle with no swirl will actually create it's own swirl(vortex) on emptying. have you never watched the simpsons.... when they discover that the water in their toilet goes one way(clockwise i think) So bart rings australia to find out what way our toilets flush!!!
What an episode !!! I love it:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

only problem is that that whole water swirling differently in different hemisphere's isn't accurate. design has more to do with it than anything.

Another interesting point to bring up is that air flows FASTER on the edges of a pipe, then it does in the center. Thus the swirly things may be useful at low speeds to create a vortex, but at high speeds, the air is impeded because the force it is flowing with is deflected up/down.

This also affects the speed at which the air reaches the engine, because the distance it has to travel is longer, due to swirl. This in turn increases the temperature of the air and "de-tunes" the entire intake, including the plenum, after the point where you install the hi-clone.

I would also imagine that a spiral is less likely to go around corners nicely and so slowing down the air even more because of collisions with the tubing.

think about it this way, where is the plenum and where is the hiclone fuel saver system going to be placed. if the air flow is going going through the hiclone fuel saver system then the trottle body then into the plenum then the hiclone fuel saver system us a waste of time coz the spining air will hit resistance when it goes through the trottle body and as well when it makes the left hand/90 degree turn down the plenum before it goes pass the injectors, would you think the air would still be spinning when it turns down those directions?? thus i highly doubt it will aid in the fuel mixture prior to reaching the cylinder

i used to be very skeptical, and well... i prob still am. i would never put 1 on my car. but while i was working at Opposite Lock we used to sell them. used to hate seeing ppl waste their money, but hey, i was a sales man :P

that was until i started having ppl come back into the shop to thank me cause they worked so well. had a guy with a '71 F-150 that claims he got an extra 200km out of a tank (bout a 120L tank). similar stories with hiluxes, cruisers, patrols. i was amazed.

BUT... the results always seemed better on older diesels (not common rail diesels). and as a side note... with their 30day guarantee... only ever had 1 returned.

the major flaw in their marketing is that on cars with AFMs the AFM is measuring how much air is going into the motor so if there is more air going in it will put in more fuel. that works on the power side of things, but it would make fuel economy worse.

and i am pretty sure they recommend that you fit 2 to get the full bennefit.

true... most cars need 2, some even 3 or 4. but if ur getting an extra 100-200km out of a tank the 300 odd buck for them pays itself off pretty quick.

one of the other guys at OL had a auto TJ and had all 3 for it on ("borrowed" them from stock) and said he didn't notice any difference in power or econ. that was all city driving.

has anyone seen the air intake on some new diesel trucks

there is atleast a dozen whirly things on the outside of the airbox (they dont spin lol)

must be something to the theory behind it....

my rodeo 3.2L quad cam all alloy V6 had one factory fitted... it was in the intake snorkle dirty side :confused:

i think it was an air/water seperator though as it had small drain hole at the bottom, just incase you drove it into a creek that was a bit too deep... maybe....

i removed it and no difference was noticeable!

Obviously a water / air seperator then, having it before the air filter would be completely useless.

having it before the air filter would be completely useless.
yeah because we all know how well paper holds its structural integrity when it gets wet.........

Not too sure what you mean, I was talking about the Hiclone being useless if the air is goign to go through the filter afterwards.

oh ok. but the hiclone goes after the air filter.

It sure does, but Andrew was talking about a factory fitted on before the air filter which he said he thought might just be an air/water seperator, which obviously it is :cool: