I want to put some new front speakers in my 1997 TH. Looking at those Response precision kevlar coaxials. They are rated at 75WRMS max though.

Now my head unit is 4x37 WRMS. I'm aware of the theory behind underpowered speakers exc. But I don't know how they would actually sound running off the head unit's amp. I plan to hook an amp up for them (and some 6x9's for the back) but for now just running off the HU.

Any suggestions? is it worth it? currently running stock speakers.

Cheers!

if it was me i would buy the amp first or at the same time
oh and i wouldnt be putting coaxials in the front, get yourself a set of splits instead
coaxials are for the rear
you can hook up the new speakers to the headunit but they will sound terrible

if it was me i would buy the amp first or at the same time
oh and i wouldnt be putting coaxials in the front, get yourself a set of splits instead
coaxials are for the rear
you can hook up the new speakers to the headunit but they will sound terrible

I don't want splits, they are more expensive, involve more wiring and are more difficult to wire, and harder to mount. Besides. I don't want the splits anyway lol.


Why would it sound terrible? if it's running within the power handling capabilites of the headunit then it should sound fine, They are relatively sensitive speakers so they should be just as loud as the stock speakers (and perhaps louder) when run off the headuint. I'm not going to be churning them up to 200 decibels (note 200 decibels can kill someone lol) I just want a better sound while i can save more for the amp and have the full deal.

Cheers man.

Id take a listen to the DD Co-ax's (Autobarn) For $150 they sounded freeken nice for co-ax's.
just a thought

']Id take a listen to the DD Co-ax's (Autobarn) For $150 they sounded freeken nice for co-ax's.
just a thought

I'll check it out!

Another reason i don't want the splits is because the tweeters are clearly visible from the outside of the car, any shifty ***** with half a bran can figure that if he sees one little speaker there's probably others!

I'll check it out!

Another reason i don't want the splits is because the tweeters are clearly visible from the outside of the car, any shifty ***** with half a bran can figure that if he sees one little speaker there's probably others!

or he'd figure that you'd have speakers anyway??? ALL cars these days have speakers (1990 onwards anyway).. Splits always produce better quality sounding music, mostly midbass because most 2way designs have the tweeter's signal wires going through the centre of the mid's cone = crap.

If you're going 2 ways, you'll have to spend up to get some decent ones. I'd be starting at $200..

I've got 120WRMS splits and 160WRMS 6x9's running off my "50WRMSx4" HU amp, sounds fine. They're all mosfet amps anyway so its all a much of a muchness on HU amps.

As if wiring splits are harder anyway. You = wuss.

or he'd figure that you'd have speakers anyway??? ALL cars these days have speakers (1990 onwards anyway)..
Exactly, I've got a 1986 Corolla which came stock with better speakers than the TR Magna. Needless to say I don't use them anymore.

I wouldn't use that as an excuse to not have splits. If you do the install properly you can install the tweeter into the upper section of the door anyway, so it won't be any more visible than a co-ax from outside.

Heres what I mean, I hope Will3690 doesn't mind me posting his front door lol

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r161/rhys_fairall/AMC/lg_20082007255.jpg

Meh... I've got my speakers set up co-axially and they sound fine :) Many ppl would argue that coaxial speakers have the potential to have a better sound,as the mid and upper freqs are coming from the same position.

The biggest problems that co-axial speakers have is that they tend to have substandard crossovers, and need to be mounted more on-axis to the listener as compared to a split setup, where you can position the tweeter more favourably during tuning/testing to better compensate the off-axis response of the speaker positioning.

If you can work past these 2 flaws (of co-axial speakers), then they can sound magnificent, and are quite comparable to splits of similar price ranges.

Exactly, I've got a 1986 Corolla which came stock with better speakers than the TR Magna. Needless to say I don't use them anymore.

I wouldn't use that as an excuse to not have splits. If you do the install properly you can install the tweeter into the upper section of the door anyway, so it won't be any more visible than a co-ax from outside.

Heres what I mean, I hope Will3690 doesn't mind me posting his front door lol

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r161/rhys_fairall/AMC/lg_20082007255.jpg

What i was getting at is i don't want the aftermarket speakers to be visible, so i'd just put the stock speaker covers back over them.

From what i've noticed there's not a lot of difference. But i might take a look at how i could do em and who knows!

Oh good work on the mounting of that tweeter...but green vent surrounds...different lol.

Oh and nick...If you want to wire them for me i'll stop complaining lol

Meh... I've got my speakers set up co-axially and they sound fine :) Many ppl would argue that coaxial speakers have the potential to have a better sound,as the mid and upper freqs are coming from the same position.

The biggest problems that co-axial speakers have is that they tend to have substandard crossovers, and need to be mounted more on-axis to the listener as compared to a split setup, where you can position the tweeter more favourably during tuning/testing to better compensate the off-axis response of the speaker positioning.

If you can work past these 2 flaws (of co-axial speakers), then they can sound magnificent, and are quite comparable to splits of similar price ranges.

Yeah the substandard crossovers was also crossing my mind. But id tend to agree as i've been in cars with similar setups and there seems to be no noticable flaws in either. The Higher the frequency is the more directional it is (due to a shorter wavelength) and thats why it's usually better then co-axials. Allthogh this can create an off-centre sound. I think the main thing with a coaxial is just adjusting the tweeter so it's aimed as close as possible to your head!

You can get co-axials with a swivel mounted tweeter. Usually its the fact that co-axials use smaller tweeters / low grade xovers and cheaper components that make them not sound as good.

Yeah decent 2 ways can sound good too, but it's cheaper to get just as good splits or better splits for the same price.

I'll do your splits for you, for the fee of one BILLION DOLLARS...

It's easy as, run a single cable just like you would for 2ways and put that into the external x-over, then run more cable from that to your driver and tweeter. easy. takes like 5 minutes more. Don't be a wuss.

The other option is to go to Mitsubishi and buy the little plastic tweeter covers which were standard in the VRX, Ralliarts and Verada's...

Mount tweeters inside them and clip onto door where door mirrors are.. On exec magna's there is a blank plastic panel which just clips off.. The tweeter cover clips on here...

Not really hard to install splits if you go this way.

Meh... I've got my speakers set up co-axially and they sound fine :) Many ppl would argue that coaxial speakers have the potential to have a better sound,as the mid and upper freqs are coming from the same position.

The biggest problems that co-axial speakers have is that they tend to have substandard crossovers, and need to be mounted more on-axis to the listener as compared to a split setup, where you can position the tweeter more favourably during tuning/testing to better compensate the off-axis response of the speaker positioning.

If you can work past these 2 flaws (of co-axial speakers), then they can sound magnificent, and are quite comparable to splits of similar price ranges.
You have two pairs of boston speakers up front, stay out of this lol

Dom... Please get splits, don't be disappointed.

The other option is to go to Mitsubishi and buy the little plastic tweeter covers which were standard in the VRX, Ralliarts and Verada's...

Mount tweeters inside them and clip onto door where door mirrors are.. On exec magna's there is a blank plastic panel which just clips off.. The tweeter cover clips on here...

Not really hard to install splits if you go this way.

Yeah i was considering this!

But the swivel mounts are still my favorite options.

No matter what i do, it's still going to sound better then the stock speakers hehe.

better than stock??? definitely
the issue i have with coaxials (and triaxials) is that you have tweeters playing bass and woofers playing high freq
result is a muddy sound that ****'s me beyond belief
splits all the way but as is true in general in car audio
you get what you pay for with speakers

I'd Get splits, yes for the sound quality, but also, im a bit clumsy when gettin out of cars, and so are my mates (boose hounds), and i wouldn't want my coaxials copin a beating from a foot, like, i dont like my 6's takin it, but they are prety well cover, if i had a tweeter in it, there'd be an opening and they'd be exposed... NOT GOOD! lol. That's my 2c's. :rant: