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TZABOY
29-09-2007, 02:46 PM
Some of you may know that i blew up my engine a while back. for those who didnt knoe, well you know now!
not long after i increased the boost and made awesome power, the engine let go. High revs in 2nd gear and i blew number 4 and 6 piston bringing the car to a complete stop. I managed to get the car started after a while and got it home as i was less than 1km from my house. the car seemed to clear itself and i thought it was a massive oil serge that caused the problem, i then pulled the front spark plugs out to find 2 smashed. I replaced them with some good ones lying around, sprayed a can of carby cleaner into the intake while the car was running and the car ran fine, just a little down on power.
Knowing there was something wrong i did a compression test to find i had 80psi in no.4 and 170 psi in no.6 while the other 4 were all at 200psi so off came the heads! Ripped the heads off to find i had cracked 2 piston crowns off, was expecting it and glad it wasnt a bent rod. The biggest suprise was there was no damage to the bore or to any valves for that matter so i was lucky.
The engine has almost been totally stripped down to a bare block. I have sent one complete piston and conrod assembly to a company in melbourne so a set of 6 forged pistons can be made. They should be done in 2-3 weeks from now. As soon as they are back the rebuild can begin.
I got the heads back today after they initially were sent away for a service, then a port job, then a throat out, and finally bigger exhaust valves were fitted to get maximum performance out of them. Standard Ralliart cams and valve springs remain.
Other modifications that will happen while the car is apart are 500cc Delphia injectors, oil catch can, rising rate FPR, stand alone ecu and water/meth injection. I will call sprintex next week and see what their thoughts are on pissing off the 7th injector all together and using that injector hole for water injection.
I have plenty of pictures attached of the dead pistons, empty block and the newly ported heads. As i get more parts in i will take more pics to show you all as complete tear downs and rebuilds happen rarly in garages. I might add up the costs as well, but that might be a little scary :D
Stripped engine
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1690/1000860gt3.jpg
Inside the supercharger
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1626/1000858ry7.jpg
engine apart, and front bar at the panel beaters. the car looks like a complete wreck atm
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2020/1000861ar5.jpg
Sump off, thats the crank you can see
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/4442/1000862aa3.jpg
TZABOY
29-09-2007, 02:52 PM
This is no.4 piston. This pulled 80psi compression and thankfully the rings stayed together! tough little buggers
http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6529/1000864bn1.jpg
No. 6 piston, this pulled 170psi compression
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1244/1000865ne6.jpg
Intake of the heads. Notice the knife edge where the intake splits into 2. truckloads of material has been taken out and then smoothed
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6609/picture002oh2.jpg
Exhaust ports
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6906/picture003gn4.jpg
In the middle is an old exhaust valve. You can see how much bigger the new exhaust valves are
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3723/picture005ry8.jpg
GoTRICE
29-09-2007, 02:54 PM
look forward to watching this jase... defs cant wait tilll i get to do my own rebuild.
Also + 1 vote for pissing off the 7th injector even if there isnt water injector... imo its a ****ty bandaid solution. But i think you might be doing this anyway as per new ecu and big injectors.
Are you upping compression or leaving as it??
andrewd
29-09-2007, 02:54 PM
i dragged off a commo with 2 broken pistons in mine :P yay me lol
btw, magnas still go on 3 cyl 1,3 & 5 (the rear bank) lol i know.... i drove some distance like that :|
those are big looking valves you have there!
TZABOY
29-09-2007, 02:59 PM
look forward to watching this jase... defs cant wait tilll i get to do my own rebuild.
Also + 1 vote for pissing off the 7th injector even if there isnt water injector... imo its a ****ty bandaid solution. But i think you might be doing this anyway as per new ecu and big injectors.
Are you upping compression or leaving as it??
retaining the 9.4:1 compression. Was going to drop it but seeing im not going to increase the boost past 10.5psi there is no need to lower it. With all the headwork it may increase the boost as its all running a lot more efficent
andrewd
29-09-2007, 03:00 PM
retaining the 9.4:1 compression. Was going to drop it but seeing im not going to increase the boost past 10.5psi there is no need to lower it. With all the headwork it may increase the boost as its all running a lot more efficent
nope it works the other way... the ve of the engine will be much better, and with less restriction.....
you may fing boost drops to 9.5 psi for example (whilst still producing more power)
Black Beard
29-09-2007, 03:11 PM
With all the headwork it may increase the boost as its all running a lot more efficent
It's not a turbo dude.
Good luck with it all anyway. Will be awesome to see how much power a properly prepped s/c'd magna engine will produce. Depending on how efficient the blower is - it should be good for at least 350HP I would guess.
Chisholm
29-09-2007, 04:34 PM
Good stuff Jase, thanks for sharing. A question for you:
It seems odd you are going to considerable trouble/cost with a full rebuild including headwork, yet you aren't gonna drop a cam in while you're at it? Or are there very minimal gains to be in a cam swap for your setup?
andrewd
29-09-2007, 04:41 PM
Good stuff Jase, thanks for sharing. A question for you:
It seems odd you are going to considerable trouble/cost with a full rebuild including headwork, yet you aren't gonna drop a cam in while you're at it? Or are there very minimal gains to be in a cam swap for your setup?
:stoopid:
yep quick, grind up a new cam before it together and too late.....
you know you want to!
TZABOY
29-09-2007, 05:14 PM
Good stuff Jase, thanks for sharing. A question for you:
It seems odd you are going to considerable trouble/cost with a full rebuild including headwork, yet you aren't gonna drop a cam in while you're at it? Or are there very minimal gains to be in a cam swap for your setup?
i dont think its worth it. The ralliart cams give good enough lift and im not chasing 400kw atw's, mind you 250+ is the plan. It was going to be more cost and i couldnt justify it as this build will be costing a lot as it is
:stoopid:
yep quick, grind up a new cam before it together and too late.....
you know you want to!
shut up you! you can't talk because you quit when it all got too hard.
P.S, yes i want to lol
XR6 Turbo
29-09-2007, 10:33 PM
I can't wait to see this thing at WSID. It will be absolute animal and will certainly surprise a few.
Might need to look at (another) brake upgrade if you want to take it to Wakefield...
Screamin TE
30-09-2007, 05:53 AM
lookin good jase. Who did you source the larger exhaust valves through?
TZABOY
30-09-2007, 07:51 AM
lookin good jase. Who did you source the larger exhaust valves through?
mate i dont know. all the head guy said was they were out of a V8, dont know what type. They had to be cut to size and machined to seal properly so not an off the shelf item. mind you, the valves including all that machining BS was only an extra 300 bucks
Chisholm
30-09-2007, 09:57 AM
Get some R-comps, polish your driving, and go do 1:10s around Wakefield.
Stop mucking about and get on with it Jase :p
TZABOY
30-09-2007, 10:24 AM
Get some R-comps, polish your driving, and go do 1:10s around Wakefield.
Stop mucking about and get on with it Jase :p
yes ma'am
Jasons VRX
30-09-2007, 11:25 AM
mate i dont know. all the head guy said was they were out of a V8, dont know what type. They had to be cut to size and machined to seal properly so not an off the shelf item. mind you, the valves including all that machining BS was only an extra 300 bucks
Its funny though jase as the brand new heads for my new engine after all the porting etc now flow with a inlet/exhaust %ratio of 78.75% with standard sized valves (a ratio of better then 75% is ideal). Its good to see different peoples ideas still come out with similar results. :) I must say though that its a bit easier for you as your forced induction whereas im NA but the basic ideas are still the same.
Oh and incase any of you are wondering, the person who helped me with the ideas (as well as letting me use his flow tester) on the porting/flowing of my heads is a well known world series sprintcar engine builder here in SA, plus i also used what i learnt from my previous head porting trials.
The valve size to combustion chamber ratio is nearly ideal with our 4valve V6 heads but as has been proven there is much to be gained from porting them in the correct places but they can also be stuffed up really quickly by taking off too much alloy in places as well, especially if people try to use porting ideas from old cast iron 2valve V8 heads.
When we CC'd my new head castings we found nearly a 3cc difference in volume between the stock factory combustion chambers! :shock: So a lot of work had to be done on the chambers to get them all the same. In the end im pretty pleased with the results and i must say they have come out much better than my last set.
All i have to do now is finish the rest of the bottom end and then put it all together. lol
Sports
01-10-2007, 06:04 PM
Its funny though jase as the brand new heads for my new engine after all the porting etc now flow just on 650hp (648to be exact) with standard valve sizes. Its good to see different peoples ideas still come out with similar results. :) I must say though that its a bit easier for you as your forced induction whereas im NA but the basic ideas are still the same.
Oh and incase any of you are wondering, the person who helped me with the ideas (as well as letting me use his flow tester) on the porting/flowing of my heads is a well known world series sprintcar engine builder here in SA, plus i also used what i learnt from my previous head porting trials.
The valve size to combustion chamber ratio is nearly ideal with our 4valve V6 heads but as has been proven there is much to be gained from porting them in the correct places but they can also be stuffed up really quickly by taking off too much alloy in places as well, especially if people try to use porting ideas from old cast iron 2valve V8 heads.
When we CC'd my new head castings we found nearly a 3cc difference in volume between the stock factory combustion chambers! :shock: So a lot of work had to be done on the chambers to get them all the same. In the end im pretty pleased with the results and i must say they have come out much better than my last set.
All i have to do now is finish the rest of the bottom end and then put it all together. lol
Just out of curiosity what rods you going to run? Mine are are from a company called blue something, they are forged items to.
Jasons VRX
02-10-2007, 07:49 AM
Just out of curiosity what rods you going to run? Mine are are from a company called blue something, they are forged items to.
I was going to use a brand new set of stock rods (which i got from EZboy) that i have had ARP rod bolts fitted and been resized and shotpeened (with those mods ive been told the rods are then strong enough for around 500hp engine)
BUT ive now decided to use the new steel crank and forged rods that i was given as part payment for my old high output engine, just because there sitting in my shed and i have no intentions of selling them so i may as well use them. lol
In reality its probably a waste to use them in a NA motor but then some would say modding a magna is a waste too. :shock:
Phonic
02-10-2007, 09:12 AM
In reality its probably a waste to use them in a NA motor but then some would say modding a magna is a waste too. :shock:
Just make it rev to 8,000rpm so you can say they are at least there for somthing...lol
Jasons VRX
02-10-2007, 09:44 AM
Just make it rev to 8,000rpm so you can say they are at least there for somthing...lol
lol
The plan is to set the revlimiter around 7500rpm due to the grind of the cams anyway.
Phonic
02-10-2007, 10:15 AM
Well if it's anything like your old engine, it should be making usable power throught the rev range.
TZABOY
02-10-2007, 03:51 PM
well i just read on another forum the benchmark for me to win the dyno comp at autosalon. A civic pulled 248kw atw's at the brissy AS on the weekend, thats the highest all year from all the shows. Fingers crossed this build will give me that and higher
veradabeast
02-10-2007, 04:48 PM
Mate you'll get there easily. I reckon you'll make 250kW at the rollers without even breaking a sweat, if the work that's going into the motor is anything to go by. 10 pounds + 9.4:1 + bigger valves and a tough bottom end will be bulletproof.
P.S. What ECU are you looking at?
TZABOY
02-10-2007, 05:30 PM
Mate you'll get there easily. I reckon you'll make 250kW at the rollers without even breaking a sweat, if the work that's going into the motor is anything to go by. 10 pounds + 9.4:1 + bigger valves and a tough bottom end will be bulletproof.
P.S. What ECU are you looking at?
Microtech. Very good mate of mine works at a shop that they specialise in them. All they company cars are running them and their new drag car just got one as well, plus i get mates rates woohoo!
Fuzzlet
02-10-2007, 09:48 PM
Its good that you're going for the bigger injectors. About time u pissed off that excuse called a 7th injector :P. The only thing I find a little odd, is that you've upgraded the size of the exhaust valves but not the intake though. I can understand the logic, to get more gases out, but wouldnt it of also been worth going for larger intake valves at the same time?
Phonic
03-10-2007, 06:52 AM
Its good that you're going for the bigger injectors. About time u pissed off that excuse called a 7th injector :P. The only thing I find a little odd, is that you've upgraded the size of the exhaust valves but not the intake though. I can understand the logic, to get more gases out, but wouldnt it of also been worth going for larger intake valves at the same time?
Apparently the 7th injector was not there for extra fuelling (as it was found the standard injectors were only around 65% duty cycle), but as a means to cool the intake charge while proving extra sealing for the charger. With the valve sizing, I'm guessing the theory is that with the charger the motor has no problem filling the chambers, but the larger exhaust valves allow the motor so expel the spent mixtures easier (less work).:P
andrewd
03-10-2007, 07:40 AM
Apparently the 7th injector was not there for extra fuelling (as it was found the standard injectors were only around 65% duty cycle), but as a means to cool the intake charge while proving extra sealing for the charger. With the valve sizing, I'm guessing the theory is that with the charger the motor has no problem filling the chambers, but the larger exhaust valves allow the motor so expel the spent mixtures easier (less work).:P
pretty much spot on..... but also when the intake temps were high (hot days) the 7th would richen up the afr's proably the reason why no one cracked any pistons on std tune (except the dude who's ecu failed)
then as soon as we re tuned them BANG sprintex was tuned to run rich over 4000rpm deliberatley min 13:1 and when mine was retuned it was set at 14:7 or what ever it is all the way from idle to cut...
bahhh who cares now.... im going to wait and see what happens... and if i keep my magna i might get a raptor for it if they sound cool lol
Mrmacomouto
03-10-2007, 07:59 AM
I'm guessing the theory is that with the charger the motor has no problem filling the chambers, but the larger exhaust valves allow the motor so expel the spent mixtures easier (less work).:P
Also that there is a lot more gas coming out than going in, due to the chemical combustion.
Might not smaller be better though due to the higher flow rate?
FRE5H
03-10-2007, 11:36 AM
cant wait to see this baby completed
ive been in this thing when he jsut got the blower and when he did mild work to it and ***** myself
can just imagine my reaction when its rebuilt :O
keep up the good work Jase and remember Mynes Pimp yours is race ;) maccas castle hill you know what im talking about lol
TZABOY
03-10-2007, 03:42 PM
The only thing I find a little odd, is that you've upgraded the size of the exhaust valves but not the intake though. I can understand the logic, to get more gases out, but wouldnt it of also been worth going for larger intake valves at the same time?
he could take a heap of material out of the intake side without needed new valves. On the exhaust side he couldnt get as much so needed the bigger valves to compensate
Screamin TE
03-10-2007, 07:36 PM
Before you had it ported and polished, did you have a black ring of carbon on the outside of your exhaust ports? If you did, is this where he took them out to?
Fuzzlet
03-10-2007, 10:02 PM
he could take a heap of material out of the intake side without needed new valves. On the exhaust side he couldnt get as much so needed the bigger valves to compensate
Ah that would do it they aye....sounds like she'll be a ripper once finished
TZABOY
05-10-2007, 11:58 AM
Forged pistons are finished, packed and will be posted 1st thing next week so the build will begin next wknd. will have pics of the pistons as soon as they arrive
Black Beard
07-10-2007, 05:21 AM
Hows your hunt for injectors going?
Just split the fuel lines and jam them straight in, that oughta do it.. ;)
TZABOY
07-10-2007, 10:13 AM
Hows your hunt for injectors going?
I've got my tuner onto it. He said he should have some info mid week so i'll call him then. bit disappointing as the 1st place i emailed said they had injectors they would fit at a great price but now have to pay the magna tax and get 11mm injectors unlike the norm which are 14mm. Bloody magna's hahaha
On another note, got some more goodies yesterday. Picked up a GReddy oil catch can and a full set of new gauges to keep an eye on the vitals
veradabeast
07-10-2007, 12:22 PM
Could you modify the fuel rails and manifold to get the 14mm injectors to fit?
TZABOY
07-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Could you modify the fuel rails and manifold to get the 14mm injectors to fit?
mate you can do anything! to modify the fuel rail and use 14mm injectors would work out to be the same or more than just using 11mm injectors. There is also not enough material in the rail to machine it out to 14mm. We'll just play it by year and see what tweakit can come up with
Sports
07-10-2007, 01:14 PM
mate you can do anything! to modify the fuel rail and use 14mm injectors would work out to be the same or more than just using 11mm injectors. There is also not enough material in the rail to machine it out to 14mm. We'll just play it by year and see what tweakit can come up with
Check out the siemens catalogue as we use siemens injectors.
TZABOY
08-10-2007, 03:44 PM
The forged pistons arrived today. :D
2 week turn around from when i paid my deposit to them being finished. They are still a 9.4:1 compression piston and almost identical to the original. Differences are they have lowered the top ring 1-2mm to give the crown more meat between the combustion surface and the ring. The standard piston had 5 small holes to get access to the oil ring, now there are 4 larger holes that also slightly extend to the outside of the piston, i'm guessing to give the oil a bit of a valley to run through. On the under side the pictures speak for themselves. You can clearly see how much more material there is holding the conrod pin in.
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5562/pistons001lp5.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/753/pistons003wc3.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7148/pistons004eq7.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1525/pistons005fe0.jpg
Now i've got the heads and the pistons finished, I will start putting the engine back together this weekend. I'll get my new gaskets and bearings later in the week so in the mean time i'll get the block all cleaned up and ready for re-assembly
Jase
veradabeast
08-10-2007, 04:04 PM
Get that thing turning and burning ASAP. You know we're all hanging on this... lol
TZABOY
08-10-2007, 04:10 PM
Get that thing turning and burning ASAP. You know we're all hanging on this... lol
You and me both!!
Also noticed another thing after i unpacked everything. These pistons now have 3 rings and an oil ring compared to the usual 2 rings and an oil ring. Interesting
veradabeast
08-10-2007, 04:20 PM
Maybe the machinist put an additional ring in to give you a bit of extra security on the FI front?
TZABOY
12-10-2007, 06:09 PM
Just waiting on conrod bearings! They were supposed to arrive today but looks like it'll be monday then the build can happen.
I've learnt how to be patient, thats for sure!
Black Beard
12-10-2007, 06:36 PM
I've learnt how to be patient, thats for sure!
What? has it been 3 weeks?? You ain't seen nothing mate....... I might as well only have "time share" on my car.
Jasons VRX
12-10-2007, 06:39 PM
You and me both!!
Also noticed another thing after i unpacked everything. These pistons now have 3 rings and an oil ring compared to the usual 2 rings and an oil ring. Interesting
Hey jase, my CP forged pistons have 3 compression rings and the oil ring.
Reason for that is that with forged pistons you cant run as tight a piston to bore clearance (thats why cars with forged pistons can have a bit of piston slap when cold idling) like you can with the cast pistons, so to make sure they seal properly most forged piston companies will add an extra compression ring.
Jasons VRX
12-10-2007, 06:41 PM
What? has it been 3 weeks?? You ain't seen nothing mate....... I might as well only have "time share" on my car.
lol My car has been engineless since march, mainly due to me not having time to work on it and i really cant be stuffed working on it when i do get some "spare" time.
TZABOY
17-10-2007, 09:20 PM
progress people!!!
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5654/pistons006fd0.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9499/pistons008yj8.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3492/pistons009vm5.jpg
i might, might have it running by the weekend
Knotched
17-10-2007, 09:36 PM
Looking awesome, mate. This rebuild is going fast!
andrewd
17-10-2007, 09:53 PM
hahaha looks awesome, take your time and do it right no need to rush now, your pretty close
dont want any mishaps due to impatience, like me, i'd have proably started it already....
did i mention magnas start with no manifold? just dont run! lol ohh and only on 3 cyl too :bowrofl:
get an engine oil cooler ;)
ohh and quick some massive s/c grind cams before you tighten the bolts!! ;)
done much more investigation into an intercooler yet? it can be done if you have awesome machining skills and a cople of inches under bonnet clearance
TZABOY
17-10-2007, 10:11 PM
hahaha looks awesome, take your time and do it right no need to rush now, your pretty close
dont want any mishaps due to impatience, like me, i'd have proably started it already....
did i mention magnas start with no manifold? just dont run! lol ohh and only on 3 cyl too :bowrofl:
get an engine oil cooler ;)
ohh and quick some massive s/c grind cams before you tighten the bolts!! ;)
done much more investigation into an intercooler yet? it can be done if you have awesome machining skills and a cople of inches under bonnet clearance
you're a twat!
definatly getting an oil cooler installed, along with an alloy intake pipe for a bit of show/noise. negitive on the intercooler but still want to get water/meth injection but it looks like i'll have to relocate my battery to the boot
Black Beard
18-10-2007, 03:32 AM
Thems some nice shiny pistons you got there. Doesn't look to me like it'll be ready by this weekend, but then again I'm used to mechanics who work on Qld time. Any luck sourcing larger injectors yet?
Ashneel
18-10-2007, 06:35 AM
that looks pwetty :D
coming along nicely Jase.
TZABOY
18-10-2007, 06:41 AM
Thems some nice shiny pistons you got there. Doesn't look to me like it'll be ready by this weekend, but then again I'm used to mechanics who work on Qld time. Any luck sourcing larger injectors yet?
injector wise, i have found out that Mazda RX7 series 4 and earlier came out with low impedence high flow injectors with a 12 mm O-ring. If we go down this path all i will need to do is drill out (or machine out if that sounds less harsh) the fuel rail to suit a 12 mm injector which is only 1mm bigger than whats in there at the moment
TZABOY
18-10-2007, 08:05 PM
Tonights progress
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7320/pistons011rf8.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9017/pistons012kv9.jpg
Re torqued heads as they had to come off again last night, water jacket side had the welsh plug in so i went back to the head place this morning and he swapped the cams over and sorted that issue. Both heads are identical, learn something new everyday!
Torqued conrod bolts up
Tappet covers on
Fuel rail on with injectors in
Water jacket installed, now that was a pain in the date!
Supercharger mount re installed.
Tomorrow night will see the sump back on as im waiting on the gasket for the oil pick up, total cost of 80 cents there! once thats on we will kick it over on the starter motor with no plugs in to set the rings. Plugs in, s/c on, wire up and kick it in the guts!!!
Satan
18-10-2007, 08:13 PM
Tonights progress
Re torqued heads as they had to come off again last night, water jacket side had the welsh plug in so i went back to the head place this morning and he swapped the cams over and sorted that issue. Both heads are identical, learn something new everyday!
Torqued conrod bolts up
Tappet covers on
Fuel rail on with injectors in
Water jacket installed, now that was a pain in the date!
Supercharger mount re installed.
Tomorrow night will see the sump back on as im waiting on the gasket for the oil pick up, total cost of 80 cents there! once thats on we will kick it over on the starter motor with no plugs in to set the rings. Plugs in, s/c on, wire up and kick it in the guts!!!
I love you!
In a non-gay way
toocky
18-10-2007, 09:20 PM
I love you!
In a non-gay way
i think u mean "But in a totaly manly way"
not another drunken rant is it whats with u ppl drinkin on thursdays pfft dotn u have work or sumthing
aussieyoungguns
18-10-2007, 09:25 PM
This rebuild is killing me lol
Jokes jase, see you tomorrow for another day of fun. hoping that we get it finished:confused:
[TUFFTR]
18-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Man thats awesome work...
I wish my heads went on that easy and that quickly.
hello 220fwkw :P
andrewd
18-10-2007, 11:03 PM
no mucking around there man, good effort
its an easy job putting the top of the s/c setup back on wont take long at all...
now get retuned and burn some rubber
also how much heavier are the forged pistons each???
Jasons VRX
19-10-2007, 05:44 AM
Hey Jase,
All ya got to hope for now is that it doesnt do in the main bearings as they are the only "old" parts left in the bottom end, seeing as you didnt do a crank out rebuild of the engine.
Jasons VRX
19-10-2007, 05:46 AM
also how much heavier are the forged pistons each???
Andrewd, i can tell you that my CP forged pistons are about 200grams heavier than ACL cast pistons, so i guess jases forged pistons would be similar.
FRE5H
19-10-2007, 11:56 AM
Tonights progress
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7320/pistons011rf8.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9017/pistons012kv9.jpg
Re torqued heads as they had to come off again last night, water jacket side had the welsh plug in so i went back to the head place this morning and he swapped the cams over and sorted that issue. Both heads are identical, learn something new everyday!
Torqued conrod bolts up
Tappet covers on
Fuel rail on with injectors in
Water jacket installed, now that was a pain in the date!
Supercharger mount re installed.
Tomorrow night will see the sump back on as im waiting on the gasket for the oil pick up, total cost of 80 cents there! once thats on we will kick it over on the starter motor with no plugs in to set the rings. Plugs in, s/c on, wire up and kick it in the guts!!!
FRESH SAYS "YAY!!!! CRUISING BUDDY IS ON ITS WAY BACK TO LIFE!!" too bad my car decided to have a heart failure last night lol
:(
220KW??? PFF AND THE REST TuffTR hehehe
TZABOY
19-10-2007, 01:19 PM
']Man thats awesome work...
I wish my heads went on that easy and that quickly.
hello 220fwkw :P
and the rest mate! haha
I'd like to see more than that, plus water/meth injection could possibly get it up to around the 250kw atw's but fingers crossed
FRE5H
19-10-2007, 01:25 PM
and the rest mate! haha
I'd like to see more than that, plus water/meth injection could possibly get it up to around the 250kw atw's but fingers crossed
haha!
hows it looking so far jase?
sms me the details if you wanna keep it more hush hush hehe
you know im keen
toocky
19-10-2007, 05:18 PM
haha!
hows it looking so far jase?
sms me the details if you wanna keep it more hush hush hehe
you know im keen
since when were we the mob
though now that i think about it we could become a pretty big gang to be reconed with
TZABOY
19-10-2007, 07:47 PM
tonights progress was a little less than expected. Didnt get the cam seals which is a bummer but might be able to source them tomorrow. got the crank cover, oil pick up, sump and oil pan installed; starter motor on and wired up; front and back exhaust manifolds on and thats about it. I've had enough for one night got a nice headache from my head sitting on the concrete floor all night. Tomorrow i want to get all the timing belt exposed to prepare to set it all up and thats all i can do till i get the cam seals.
good times
Satan
19-10-2007, 08:24 PM
tonights progress was a little less than expected. Didnt get the cam seals which is a bummer but might be able to source them tomorrow. got the crank cover, oil pick up, sump and oil pan installed; starter motor on and wired up; front and back exhaust manifolds on and thats about it. I've had enough for one night got a nice headache from my head sitting on the concrete floor all night. Tomorrow i want to get all the timing belt exposed to prepare to set it all up and thats all i can do till i get the cam seals.
good times
So like tomorrow night u will be in what? a 121?
FRE5H
20-10-2007, 10:30 AM
since when were we the mob
though now that i think about it we could become a pretty big gang to be reconed with
Always have been dude just havnt been on the road in 6 months you havnt seen me lol
yeh i recon so too haha team MagNutz :P
Wow! Loving the effort being put in, I can see you want her up and running sooner rather than later. :p
Nice to see shiney parts aswell. Can't wait to see the results of your hard work.
Just an idea; get some old car seats to put in garage/shed to save you from sitting on the concrete floor. I have my old exec seats in my shed, they're a life saver some nights when im just doing little tedious bits.
harlequin
20-10-2007, 09:54 PM
This is going to be a beast when its finished :D :D
Is it going to be ready for autosalon Final battle jase? I want to experience this thing on a dyno in real life lol
TZABOY
20-10-2007, 11:26 PM
This is going to be a beast when its finished :D :D
Is it going to be ready for autosalon Final battle jase? I want to experience this thing on a dyno in real life lol
mate i want it to be ready tomorrow afternoon.
wait its 1:25am, i want it ready this afternoon!!!!
andrewd
20-10-2007, 11:52 PM
mate i want it to be ready tomorrow afternoon.
wait its 1:25am, i want it ready this afternoon!!!!
get some sleep you fool and take it easy....
you dont want to install the supercharger backwards so it sucks not blows :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
No no, don't sleep, just go buy some speed and get back into it you *****!
TZABOY
25-10-2007, 09:18 PM
and the rebuild is complete!!! just clocked up 20 kms in it and besides a bit of an exhaust leak she's all good!!! much deeper meaner exhaust note which is due to the new valves and head work. Give me a couple of weeks and i'll be tuned with numbers to show.
WHAT A ****ING RELIEF
James0
25-10-2007, 10:12 PM
Congrats mate, Well done!
Hope you get some serious numbers lol
nice work man.. wanna come to wa and give me a hand? :P
Sports
25-10-2007, 10:55 PM
nice work man.. wanna come to wa and give me a hand? :P
Yours gone to?
nah, I can drive mine fine.. just time to do a bit more work to it
Sports
25-10-2007, 11:17 PM
nah, I can drive mine fine.. just time to do a bit more work to it
What you going to do to it?
granted, i can chop anything that pulls up next to me.. need more power.. just got that feed for more
Sports
25-10-2007, 11:28 PM
Yeah so do I, cause of a different reason I'm doing it though lol
Disciple
26-10-2007, 03:55 AM
granted, i can chop anything that pulls up next to me.. need more power.. just got that feed for more
You haven't pulled up next to me yet. :badgrin:
TZABOY
26-10-2007, 04:04 AM
i'll see all you biatches in my mirrors!!!
now, everyone to MM08 and put their money where their mouth is. Lets take it to the track!
wookiee
26-10-2007, 07:12 AM
i'll see all you biatches in my mirrors!!!
now, everyone to MM08 and put their money where their mouth is. Lets take it to the track!
what are you doing Monday?
track day FTW!!!
come on man, I wanna see your car. you've seen mine! lol
cheers,
.wook
GoTRICE
26-10-2007, 07:45 AM
what are you doing Monday?
track day FTW!!!
come on man, I wanna see your car. you've seen mine! lol
cheers,
.wook
hahah i dont think the engines ready for the track yet.
****ing awesome **** jase.
was this your first rebuild?
when i can afford other cars defs something ill be doing.
wookiee
26-10-2007, 07:49 AM
hahah i dont think the engines ready for the track yet.
****ing awesome **** jase.
was this your first rebuild?
when i can afford other cars defs something ill be doing.
he doesn't have to run it. it'll be interesting in March!! woot.
aussieyoungguns
26-10-2007, 10:23 AM
and the rebuild is complete!!! just clocked up 20 kms in it and besides a bit of an exhaust leak she's all good!!! much deeper meaner exhaust note which is due to the new valves and head work. Give me a couple of weeks and i'll be tuned with numbers to show.
WHAT A ****ING RELIEF
After finishing the car after 10 o'clock. fired frist start:D good to see her go. Remember jase NO BOOSTING:badgrin: :badgrin: 500 km then 5000km, then good crazy:D
TZABOY
26-10-2007, 12:09 PM
After finishing the car after 10 o'clock. fired frist start:D good to see her go. Remember jase NO BOOSTING:badgrin: :badgrin: 500 km then 5000km, then good crazy:D
dude, i owe you big time for all your efforts.
hahah i dont think the engines ready for the track yet.
****ing awesome **** jase.
was this your first rebuild?
when i can afford other cars defs something ill be doing.
yeah bro 1st rebuild! i now have a pretty good understanding of how these things go together, just hope i never have to do it again
TZABOY
27-10-2007, 08:41 AM
I have the final pictures from the rebuild. Just under 2 months from the moment it went bang to getting it back on the road. Pretty happy and very relieved thats for sure.
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7933/pistons017cy2.jpg
Just got home from my mates zorst shop, had 2 leaking gaskets either side of the cat so not a biggy and you have to love mates rates! looks like a chrome spagetti mess under there! Car has a much different not now when into the throttle and i can only assume thats from the oversized valves and head work that went on
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9461/pistons016ns9.jpg
Please excuse the ****ty HP 18's on there, they are off my mates hilux as he borrowed my 20's for toyofest and i should have them back tomorrow.
Next on the hit list will be to get a stainless intake pipe. Reason for this mod is to easily weld in a port for the water/meth injection in the future and to get rid of the sharp bend into the throttle. While thats happening i'll get an oil cooler installed to keeps temps at check so there is less chance of damage next time im at wakefield park
FROGi
27-10-2007, 11:39 AM
Don't excuse the 18's man, they look hot!
Should be interesting to see what it pulls when its tuned!
andrewd
27-10-2007, 01:24 PM
IMHO 18's are far better than 20's which are heavy dont handle rough blah............!
lol
in all seriousness though, with the massive under bonnet temps due to the s/c and now even more so with extra boooooost, you think it's wise switching to a Metal inlet tube over plastic? might be fine for the 1st 10 min then when the heatsoak sets in...
Fuzzlet
27-10-2007, 01:53 PM
in all seriousness though, with the massive under bonnet temps due to the s/c and now even more so with extra boooooost, you think it's wise switching to a Metal inlet tube over plastic? might be fine for the 1st 10 min then when the heatsoak sets in...
Perhaps some evo style bonnet vents might help? Even with the plastic inlet piping, I'd be a little worried about the radiator when jase goes to wakefield...
greenmatt
27-10-2007, 10:02 PM
Maybe some carbon fiber naca ducts. Ala GTR.
Disciple
28-10-2007, 04:23 AM
I wouldn't be using a metal intake pipe man. Car manufacturers design them as plastic for a reason - it doesn't conduct heat. Metal will conduct it, hold it and make your intake temps go through the roof. I'd be seriously looking at some bonnet vents like others have said.
Screamin TE
28-10-2007, 07:12 AM
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9461/pistons016ns9.jpg
Hey Jase,
Noticed in this pic your top radiator hose is squished flat. Its either twisted or there is a negative pressure in the system, it would be restricting flow mate.
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