I had my Magna at Mitsubishi for a few warranty repairs today, but one of the things I had issue with hasn't been fixed, so I guess I might take it back tomorrow. Hell, I WILL take it back tomorrow. But I thought to ask if anyone had something similar.

It's TW Magna, 2005, done 41.000 km. Ihad problem with tiptronic switching gears erratically, sometimes not even switching when I move the stick. However, they have fixed this by replacing whatever assembly that handles this and it works fine now.

Now the thing I still have issues with: when I drive in auto mode the gearbox is stuck in the lower gear far longer than it should be. Say I take off, reach 50km/h in second gear, then go flat 50k (no accelleration, not uphill, just plain flat) and the gearbox will switch to a third gear about 4-5 seconds later, instead of almost immediately. If I let the accelerator go a little for a fraction of the second, it will change to third nicely, but if I let it be, it won't, it takes forever.

This is not only 2/3 gear, it's all gears, including the first/second change when taking off.

Is there anything that I can adjust myself, or is this electronically controlled?

Thanks

Whats wrong with a little revving? Doesn't really sound like a problem. But, i'm not entirely sure if there is maybe taking it to an auto trans specialist to check on it.

I had my Magna at Mitsubishi for a few warranty repairs today, but one of the things I had issue with hasn't been fixed, so I guess I might take it back tomorrow. Hell, I WILL take it back tomorrow. But I thought to ask if anyone had something similar.

It's TW Magna, 2005, done 41.000 km. Ihad problem with tiptronic switching gears erratically, sometimes not even switching when I move the stick. However, they have fixed this by replacing whatever assembly that handles this and it works fine now.

Now the thing I still have issues with: when I drive in auto mode the gearbox is stuck in the lower gear far longer than it should be. Say I take off, reach 50km/h in second gear, then go flat 50k (no accelleration, not uphill, just plain flat) and the gearbox will switch to a third gear about 4-5 seconds later, instead of almost immediately. If I let the accelerator go a little for a fraction of the second, it will change to third nicely, but if I let it be, it won't, it takes forever.

This is not only 2/3 gear, it's all gears, including the first/second change when taking off.

Is there anything that I can adjust myself, or is this electronically controlled?

Thanks

Each self learning tranny of 3rd gen has its own mind when comes to learning ur style. Drive it around for a day or two and hopefully the prob will settle down. May be the tranny went through a reset and acting funny while trying to learn your driving style. Mine takes a coule of weeks to settle down after each reset.

i think it is also speed related somehow. try shifting manually into third at 40kmh...it wont let you do it. I'd say it is learning your driving style. if you change it will change. so if you have driven it hard peeviusoly, it will hold gears longer before changing. if you drive like miss daisy afterwards, it doesnt know you are going to and holds gears a bit longer as if you are going to accelerate harder. if you continue to drive sedately, then the gearbox will learn to change earlier.

I'd say it is learning your driving style.
Is that on EVERY magna (TE specifically?) or just ones since 98-00?

EDIT: Congrats on 666 posts :p

Is that on EVERY magna (TE specifically?) or just ones since 98-00?

EDIT: Congrats on 666 posts :p

haha thanks. think it is for all invecs II.

I just had a look at the manual and have found that the shift is not speed related but more throttle amount V's output shat speed

haha thanks. think it is for all invecs II.

I just had a look at the manual and have found that the shift is not speed related but more throttle amount V's output shat speed
Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with the term invecs.

You will find this is normal if the ecu has been reset recently. Just keep doing what you're doing (taking your foot off to force it into 3rd) and it will soon learn that is what you want it to do.

Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with the term invecs.

The Mitsu marketing term for this is "Fuzzy Logic" and yes the TE has this and is supposed to adapt to your driving style.

About INVECS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INVECS

It seems that the INVECS II is the tiptronic gearbox so the TE would be the 1st gen INVECS

The Mitsu marketing term for this is "Fuzzy Logic" and yes the TE has this and is supposed to adapt to your driving style.


Stupid Fuzzy Logic. :rant: Drives me crazy after each reset, feels like slipping under high throttle, shift at high rpm bla bla....:rant: Why does it take so much time to learn? Min 2 weeks!!!

What you described as an issue appears to be a normal and designed characteristic of the auto. The auto will learn your driving style and use the data it records to shift gears the way a driver using a manual tranmission would. It will hold a gear longer than usual at a constant throttle to prevent gear hunting when you are driving up a hill, and will kickdown a gear or two if you are slowing downhill. Or, if you are one who likes to put their foot down, it will rev higher before changing up. If you drive gently, it will slot into a higher gear earlier at lower revs once adapted to your driving style. I found that the occasional flaring in 1st before it would change to 2nd a little strange at first, but now that I realise what it's doing, it doesn't bother me.

I often just back off on the accelerator and that drops it straight away in my auto. If I don't it just stays a bit higher in the revs, nothing serious.

The Mitsu marketing term for this is "Fuzzy Logic" and yes the TE has this and is supposed to adapt to your driving style.

About INVECS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INVECS

It seems that the INVECS II is the tiptronic gearbox so the TE would be the 1st gen INVECS
Thanks for the info.

I often just back off on the accelerator and that drops it straight away in my auto. If I don't it just stays a bit higher in the revs, nothing serious.

That's exactly what's happening with mine, but that's exactly what I don't want it to do. Every other car I have ever driven, including test driving three Magnas, are dropping to the next gear normally. But this one stays stuck unless I back off the accelerator, which really sucks and makes the car very uncomfortable to drive.

But this one stays stuck unless I back off the accelerator, which really sucks and makes the car very uncomfortable to drive.

Mine does exactly the same thing and that's what it's MEANT to do. Good luck trying to get the dealer to 'fix' it.

Mine does exactly the same thing and that's what it's MEANT to do. Good luck trying to get the dealer to 'fix' it.

As I mentioned, I did test drive two other Magnas, same as mine (TW) and none of them does it.

I had my Magna at Mitsubishi for a few warranty repairs today, but one of the things I had issue with hasn't been fixed, so I guess I might take it back tomorrow. Hell, I WILL take it back tomorrow. But I thought to ask if anyone had something similar.


Ok so how did it go?

As I mentioned, I did test drive two other Magnas, same as mine (TW) and none of them does it.
Mate just keep doing what you're doing, the transmission computer will learn that is what you want to do and will do it. Can take a few trips to work.

Ok so how did it go?

They had it for about an hour and when I picked it up they said - It should be better now, but not much, that's just the way it is.

I doubt they've done anything, but what can I do.

I'll take it easy for some time, driving more like a pensioner and see if it settles.

They had it for about an hour and when I picked it up they said - It should be better now, but not much, that's just the way it is.

I doubt they've done anything, but what can I do.

I'll take it easy for some time, driving more like a pensioner and see if it settles.

drive it like a nanna on the way to and from church for a week, and itl learn that pattern and adjust its changes to suit.

thing is - while your trying to get it to 'relearn' is to try not to beat every one off when you at the front of the queue at the lights.. coz then everything its allready 'learnt' will go out the window and u will have to start again!
Be consistent with your driving style, and it will adapt to best suit it - just takes some time for it to happen thats all.

Bloody hell, wasn't it easier to put some kind of a switch, like three positions:

1. pensioner/nana
2. normal
3. sports mode

Ah well, of to a church then for a few weeks ... hang on, I don't go to church ! :-)

mine has the same problem, it didnt when i test drove it, but they did a major service to it when i brought it, id say they disconected the battery.

does the car store the data in the keys, or just in the car, as two people drive the car, how does that learn, 2 different shifting methods all together in that case.

i dont think it stores the info for your driving style in the keys - i thinks its more it *recognises* the way someone drives and shifts according to thier style

(when i drive the rada, it does everything i want it to do when i want it to, but when the other half drives - who is fairly heavy on the juice, it shifts according to him - there are two distinct styles of driving. he doesnt get to drive it much because i know its going to end up wrapped around a tree or into the side of another car - problem when its insured in MY name - NOT his... anyhow...)(

AFAIK - the info is stored in the tranny computer.
(im hoping that ford knowledge can be applied in the same way to a magna in this case! lol)