yeah sorry i know it's been covered a million times :doubt:

im after some splits to upgrade my current set up, but on as small budget as possible lol

without looking up specific model numbers here and not wanting to spend more than $300 (tight wad)

im after the best that i can get for the $$$

currently i have response 6.5" kevlar splits running of a response 4x50wrms amp.... one day will upgrade to something along the lines of a 2x65w 2x80w or even 2x100w amp depending on the quality and price and requirments at the time

i have narrowed it down to several brands, and mainly those off fleabay due to the cheap prices providing they arent knockoffs :shock:

focal
soundstream
mb quart
some other brands i forget now

all entry level models under, some well under $300

currently i have response as mentioned above, but im after something with more mid bass! and not as harsh tweeter! listen to hiphop/rap if you call it that and rock occasionally metal and very limited techno..

in your honest opinion will the entry or next level models from them brands be a noticable improvment over the jaycars? bearing im mind i work at the airport but still have good hearing, although im no sq judge

whats your opinions,

this question is directed more so at the half-dozen or so guys on here that really know their stuff

ohh and it's usually played quite loud


thanks

ebay is pretty rife with fakes from Focal.

I went from Jaycar splits to Focal 165A1's(entry level). And noticed a difference. But not enough to justify what the Focals cost over the Jaycars.

I know your budget is $300, but if you can afford to goto Hertz HSK165's which are about $350 you wont regret it. They're what I run now and are great, they love power and play loud very well.

if you dont like a shrill tweeter, i'd say avoid the focals. Most people complain that the tweeters are too 'bright'.
at $300 unfortunately i'm not sure as to how the entry level speakers of the high end brands compare, and whether its worth the extra over ur current response splits sorry :(

yeah i have found that as well that they are very loud and harsh tweeters.

mb quart discus 6.5's are what i would suggest for around 300!

thats what i plan on getting anyway ;)

Yeah avoid the focals as their tweeter can be pretty bright.

For what you want with more midbass, Hertz would be ideal, maybe Boston or even some entry level Morels.

My advise would be to give Marty for FHRX Studios a ring, he is extremely helpful and his prices are quite good. He also has HEAPS of different brands to choose from.

You could probably also consider JL Audio VR 650CSi components.

They are relatively reasonably priced at under your $300 budget at JB Hifi. You may be able to haggle the price down further.

I have these in my car ATM running off the aftermarket head unit, and they sound good for the price. They're fixed into the standard speaker holes with MDF surrounds for added strength, all is need is some sound deadening in the doors for increased bass response and lessen the rattles.

They aren't too bright like the Focal's and are fairly smooth. I mostly listen to trance, some hip/hop R'n'B and metal and seems to handle it quite well. I think they would suit your music tastes.

At the next mini meet (if I attend), you can have a listen if you like....

andrew are u also keeping an eye out on the MCA for sale forums? some people sell $500-$700 splits for under $300, so u may get a bargain if ur eager to buy now

Hertz ESK / HSK / Boston S60 FTW!:D

Hertz ESK / HSK / Boston S60 FTW!:D

like these??

http://www.ryda.com.au/product-p/s60.htm

whats that price like?
anywhere in vic stock them?

like these??

http://www.ryda.com.au/product-p/s60.htm

whats that price like?
anywhere in vic stock them?

Yeah that's an o.k. price... You can't go wrong with those splits IMO.. They sound sexy as, and are efficient enough to be able to run off a H.U. if you need some time to save some more cash for an amp.

I'd plan to get an amp capable of putting out 70-100WRMS to run them if you want to really be impressed. They are a very hard set of components to beat, when compared to similar priced splits of other brands.

If you can't have an audition, then I would describe them as having a slightly dry and crisp sound, definately not overbearing, well balanced and get quite loud off 50WRMS per side (which is what I heard them at). They will sound stressed at this level of amplitude if they aren't high passed (at around 80-100hz 12dB). The tweeter will need to be attenuated slightly if you have them mounted up high (which can be achieved through the crossover settings).

They are designed primarily to be put into door locations, and sound fantastic mounted off-axis when compared to other splits. On-axis I'd say the Hertz ESKs would just sound that little bit more detailed, but I could only pick it when I heard them both by a side-by-side comparison on a sound board, and it could have been that the Hertz set was mounted higher up than the Bostons. I would say that the Bostons were a tad punchier with the midbass.

The Bostons didn't sound quite as realistic as some of the dearer sets that were on the sound board, but they were the one's I kept refering to as the "one's that sounded good". They were loud, clear, and had excellent clarity. I played everything from techno to classical to R&B and "Jimmy Barnes" style rock, and found them to be the pick of the bunch against the MTXs, Focals (A1), Pioneer (yellows), Hertz and a set of Infinity Kappas.

So then I bought 2 sets of Boston Z6s....lol

cool thanks... i'll lean towards them

i dont demo anything in store... if they can demo in car then i'll listen...

off a soundboard in JB hifi they sound nothing like they do in car...

my other option was to go to a hifi store that imprts high end gear and get seperate bits that are suitable to be run off car amps... but then it gets tricky... and i dont think i know enough and would proably be worse off doing that, but i like the idea of 8" fronts :P

if you find focal tweets too bright.. learn how to install speakers properly :) this is honestly the only reason people experience brightness. installed well, focals sound bloody fantastic!

JL Audio VR 650CSi...I owned a Pair of these, they lasted 3 months before they started faulting,

Bought dynaudio MKII's for $450 used for 6 months (off ebay)

Was offered to road test a pair of Peerless Resolution Series Splits (from our electronics wholesaler) installed them, sounds wonderful, soft silk dome tweeter so smooth, accurate, clear, woofers were detailed and produced low tight bass (had them crossed over at 60hz with my subs)

I have been using them now for a year running 100watt rms and sound amazing being 94.5db 1w/1m they are extremely efficient. If you like quality danish speakers without forking out the big dollars for the high end dynaudio, scan-speak or Morel then these are for you. I can get them at trade price through the distrubutor pm me if your interested. If you lived in brisbane I would demo for you. anyone else interested i can audition. I'm sure we can work something out in your budget.

yeah i have found that as well that they are very loud and harsh tweeters.

mb quart discus 6.5's are what i would suggest for around 300!

thats what i plan on getting anyway ;)

Dont think thats what you really want then as MB Quart are known to be great speakers but some dont like them because of they some of the brightest speakers around, due to the metal (titanium I think) tweeters.

Ollie

hahaha everyone has different opinions lol

and it seems everything has bright tweeters lol

hmmm plan b then it is!!

8" subs in the doors custom xovers tweeter of my choice and 100wrms+ per channel to drive it


yeah? or not ;)

Why the hell not?

You may as well keep your response splits then and just get 8"s as well, or maybe some 6" DD splits drivers, get pretty punchy when used as mini subs.

I've got some MB Quarts Discus 6.5" splits and have had numerous comments from AMC members about how clear and detailed they were when installed into my TP, which i considered off-axis.. unless you were makin' love to the steering wheel. Drivers in stock door holes with no custom mounts and tweets on the door too above the handle.. Sounded great and I love the detail in the tweets, although now they're installed into my TR's stock dash speaker grilles so it brings them nice and high.. After swapping them over and dumping the clarion that was in there it's like going from not having a stereo to well.. having one..

I can say they're not the most rife with mid-bass, but that's why i bought a DD sub. Detail is great, power handling is decent and can survive off a low input (aka HU) and they're only Discus series. One member got a lift in a car with better mounted Hertz HSK's and said mine sounded better which is pretty nice.

http://web.aanet.com.au/naa/doortp.jpg

hahaha everyone has different opinions lol

and it seems everything has bright tweeters lol

hmmm plan b then it is!!

8" subs in the doors custom xovers tweeter of my choice and 100wrms+ per channel to drive it


yeah? or not

why only 100W RMS? :P

IMO i'd splash out extra on the splits, and go something like the Morel Elate 6's, or similar in the $500-$600 range... theres so many better alternatives in that neck of the woods, and you wont have to worry about an 'active' front stage, so easier for u to setup :)

basically in the cost involved of going custom up front, you could easy have some Morels in there doing a beautiful job :)

i know what i'd prefer!

ok found some i like :confused:

what are infinity like they are a 6.5" split with an oversize woofer, more surface area than a regular 6.5" and have what appears to be an alloy woven cone kinda..


they are reasonably priced, there is also a 3 way set that really well priced, but proably a hassle to install unless the mini mid will fit in the dash with no effort (but how would you securley mount it??) hmmm dest of sticking with the 2 ways


any opinions?

LINKY to the specs (http://www.infinitysystems.com/car/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=KAPPA65.7CS/230&cat=COS&ser=KAP&Language=ENG&Country=AU&Region=EUROPE)

also they are 2ohm and my amp is 2ohm stable too...

I know your budget is $300, but if you can afford to goto Hertz HSK165's which are about $350 you wont regret it. They're what I run now and are great, they love power and play loud very well.

Those things are MINT! perfect to compliment a decent subwoofer, they have such a clear tone and VERY responsive! Not to mention being kickass at doing every frequency 100hz+ they almost sound like an expensive pair of studio monitors except with more oommph!

If i get the money i'm putting them in my fronts.

But value for money the jaycar ones can't be beat. They outperform a lot of speakers around the $300+ range. The tweeters are a little shrill though, and can be a bit loud, but you can set the corssovers accordingly i beleive.

BTW tweeters are supposed to be bright! It's the high frequencies that they produce that define brightness to human ears! You could tune this if you bought some adjustable crossovers/EQ unit but all that **** is expensive!