ok this thread is likley to be closed due to spam and crap, so keep it out!

i have done a little browsing on the net and there are 2 Jap spec mitsubishi JDM vehicles in comparable size to the magna that are FF (front engine fwd) that have the 6G motor bolted to the same model trans as australian spec magnas....

Big Deal you say!

also they have a 4.5L V8! yes V8 fwd same trans as ours (possibly different in some aspects)

anyone know much more?? i havent really looked into it but it would be an awesome conversion sure the power is only 206kw factory rated and have 412nm but they are GDI 4cam engines..."The V8, including twin exhaust-manifold-mounted catalytic converters, has a mass of 230 kg (507 lb), only 10 kg (22 lb) heavier than the 6G74 V6"


immagine an actual V8 in your magna :D sure a worked 6 or s/c'd or turbo is more powerful, but i'd love a V8 awd, then the dual exhausts would be worth it and it'd be a great cruiser...

also being GDI the economy is as good as out 6's!!

the block is on 50mm longer than the 6G74...

ok im off to the wreckers now BYE!!!

there would be some catch though, never fit proably... although anything can be done it would be an intesting car

transmission?

5 auto same model designation as TJ onwards invecs II tiptronic

The Motor you are talking about is called the 8A80 V8.....

It would fit in the magna's engine bay but you would have to use the V8's gearbox as well as it is different to the V6's INVECS-II five-speed....


The standard transmission for the Proudia/Dignity is Mitsubishi's INVECS-II adaptive five-speed automatic. Mitsubishi holds the honor of being Japan's first to introduce a transversely, inline-mounted five-speed automatic in the Debonair sedan. It was recently followed by Honda; Aisin and JATCO produce such units, but curiously they have not been adopted by their affiliates, Toyota and Nissan. The V6 is fitted with that transmission, the type F5A51. The V8's automatic is a new unit, designed by Mitsubishi and built by Hyundai. Either version has two operating modes: fully automatic in the P-R-N-D gate with the transmission adapting to the driver's style and road/traffic, and manual selection of five gears by the lever in the adjacent + gate

you could do it but you would loose AWD .......

be nicer to just get the car....
http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i20/2071_2mg.jpg

Craig

supposed to be mitsus answer to the LS400, looks a bit ugly to me though... i prefer the TJ lol


The F5A51 is an electronic 5 speed automatic transaxle by Mitsubishi used in the J through W series Magna/Verada.

All versions used in Australia have had "tiptronic" or sports mode functionality. The F5A51 is very similar to the F4A51 4 speed automatic. It uses a two-shaft design and features INVECS II technology.

Initially the F5A51 was only available on the TJ Sports and VR-X. The F5A51 later became optional on the TJII Magna Advance and standard on the KJII Verada.

The F5A51 became the standard automatic transmission across the range for the front-wheel drive L and W Series Magna/Verada



same model number?? but even havine the same number yes the V8 box could be different....

anything is possible, not that anyone in their right mind would do it, but it's interesting to know how possible it could be....

althoug without moving to japan learning the language and finding the parts, it's pretty much just a dream

Researching the car, you'd be best off trying to find one out of a Hyundai Equus, which is just the rebadged Proudia/Dignity after Mitsu went broke... (haha, they lost their dignity literally and metaphorically) They only made the Proudia/Dignity for 15 months, Hyundai have been doing Equus' since 2001 until today.

Did the motors out of the Debonairs change orientation?
Cause i have the 3.5L from one and its (obvioulsy) mounted for a 2nd gen.
the 206kw rating would be a load of crap. would be putting out wayyyyyy more then that.
Only one thing to do man. Call up some import wreckers. I reckon that'd be the best of both worlds, putting a V8 in there (This will shut micjaiy up) and still retaining the mitsu FWd platform...cause then if you change to RWD using holden/ford parts its not really a mitsu anymore....

go for it you crazy son of a bitch

So what type of modifications would you need to do for this to actually work on our cars, without to many problems?

']Did the motors out of the Debonairs change orientation?
Cause i have the 3.5L from one and its (obvioulsy) mounted for a 2nd gen.
the 206kw rating would be a load of crap. would be putting out wayyyyyy more then that.
Only one thing to do man. Call up some import wreckers. I reckon that'd be the best of both worlds, putting a V8 in there (This will shut micjaiy up) and still retaining the mitsu FWd platform...cause then if you change to RWD using holden/ford parts its not really a mitsu anymore....

go for it you crazy son of a bitch


well if the engine is backwards, 2nd GEN V8 FTW!!!

either way i think it's a no go, these cars are 4" wider than out narrow body magnas.... would be nice though!

a gen 3 conversion can easily be done on an awd considering the diff and tailshaft etc.. is already there and based on the lancer running gear, and there is many lancer drifters around...

but this thread isnt about that, it's in keeping in the mitsu family

Just chop a bit out of the suspension tower you'll be right.

']Just chop a bit out of the suspension tower you'll be right.


chop..... suspension


hahaha ok!!!

:P

chop..... suspension


hahaha ok!!!

:P
Your slowly running out of suspension bits to chop down!
So are you actually going to enquire about this?
I read on the forums once (i did a search) from about 2+ years ago a member put in the 3.5L MIVEC engine into his 3rd gen and saw him into high 13 second passes.
That engine is mid $6.5Kish....might be something to think about?

']Your slowly running out of suspension bits to chop down!
So are you actually going to enquire about this?
I read on the forums once (i did a search) from about 2+ years ago a member put in the 3.5L MIVEC engine into his 3rd gen and saw him into high 13 second passes.
That engine is mid $6.5Kish....might be something to think about?
nope im bust installing the ebay Vtec kit only 29.99+ shipping ;)

lol

i would love to, but im going for some mild cams and tune and leave it at that untill i see what the raptors can do... then if i stil have it then, i'll get a raptor for it...


someone else can do the awd magna 4.5L V8 with manual conversion though... wow that'd be nice

the 8A80 V8 gearbox "Mitsubishi-designed F5AH1 smart automatic"

6G74 GDI is the " F5A51 triptronic 5 speed "

good luck finding this engine.

i had mark get his import company have a look for one for me but said they had no chance finding one

I remember back in the day when Malcom still had his TH (before his Supra) he spent about 6 months trying as hard as he could to get one of these engines.

Nada.

-Dan

I remember back in the day when Malcom still had his TH (before his Supra) he spent about 6 months trying as hard as he could to get one of these engines.
Yeah, I remember that. It was around when I'd grabbed my AWD brakes for my TF.


']I read on the forums once (i did a search) from about 2+ years ago a member put in the 3.5L MIVEC engine into his 3rd gen and saw him into high 13 second passes.
Who did that? I don't remember anyone ever doing that and there's been only a select few who have hit a 13. Besides, I reckon you'd have fun trying to fit the Mivec 3.5 into a Magna too considering it came from a Pajero...

Besides, I reckon you'd have fun trying to fit the Mivec 3.5 into a Magna too considering it came from a Pajero...

I'd bet it'd be easier to fit the MIVEC heads off the 3.0 to a local 3.5 Block then fiddling with the Pajero motor.

Yeah, I remember that. It was around when I'd grabbed my AWD brakes for my TF.


Who did that? I don't remember anyone ever doing that and there's been only a select few who have hit a 13. Besides, I reckon you'd have fun trying to fit the Mivec 3.5 into a Magna too considering it came from a Pajero...

I cant remember what i searched for but yeah it was on here somewhere. Must of searched for MIVEC or something like that but the original post was a few years back now.

ive thought about this too
i mean everyone thinks of the hard path and RWD V8 but theres still the possibility here for a FWD V8 ( like the Ford Tornado's and Taraus's in the US). only thing that stopped me from the research was the thought of WHEELSPIN LIKE A MOTHER F**KER LOL
i think its a gud idea FWD V8

an even better idea for a AWD V8
imagine a blown AWD V8 VRX mmmmmmmmmmmm yum!
id take 7!
id like to see if anyone could go through with this as its a different approach to everyone elses so far
my 2c

a V8 in magna? noice, but at the end of the day if its just a fwd... :doubt:

you'd get jumping castle axle tramp, awd on the other hand :D

so lets make like a hockey player and get the puck outa here :cool: