View Full Version : Super Urgent - DIY Replacement wheel studs!?
M4DDOG
20-10-2007, 07:05 AM
Hey guys,
Need to replace a couple of wheels studs on the front, no tyre place will touch me on a sat morning, so need to do it myself! How hard is it?
Do the old ones just hammer out?
From what i can see, i need to take the brake shielf off, is this easily done or do i have to remove the whole brake assembly? Can this be done with a normal ratchet set or do i need a torque wrench?
Please help me, want to get my new mags on by tonight, but need the car to drive tonight (2 studs off the same wheel :().
Lucifer
20-10-2007, 07:46 AM
Torque wrench is for measuring/adjusting/regulating force acting upon a bolt/nut... Not for heavy tightening/unbolting, they will break.
When I was redoing my suspension I broke a ratchet wrench, extension piece and a 17mm socket all in one action... insane. Case in point... Use something tough.
mad082 magna
20-10-2007, 07:59 AM
you need to remove the brake caliper, then pull the rotor off. you may then be able to tap the broken studs out (towards the inside of the car), but i'm not sure if there will be enough room to feed them back through. you may have to actually take the hub out.
Mrmacomouto
20-10-2007, 08:21 AM
How do you guys keep breaking studs?
magna buff
20-10-2007, 08:34 AM
as above you have to remove the hub
so brake claiper off
seperate the hub ...usually a hub seperator
and hit the broken stud out
then line up the splines in the hub as you hit in the new stud
few hours work
buffy
Mrmacomouto....heat / rattle guns/ and mag nuts/mags .
M4DDOG
20-10-2007, 08:41 AM
Does the caliper need to have a certain torque setting or just done up tight?
By lining up the splines do you mean the ones on the new stud near the head bit?
Instead of hitting in the new stud can i just thread it through and then use a nut to lock it on?
If there is a quicker way i wanna hear it lol.
*EDIT*
Given up too hard lol, not that i don't want to try but i don't want to stuff up my calipers/braking system without someone guiding me on my first time removing/re installing.
Luckily one of the studs isn't snapped too badly and i managed to get a decent amount of thread on the nut, so it's running on 4 atm until monday.
Thanks for the help guys.
parker
20-10-2007, 09:22 AM
My mates prelude had them replaced after someone tried to steal his rims and left just the lock nut on.
My tyre/wheel place did them with 20mins notice and had all the studs replaced about an hour later. Cost him $100.
[TUFFTR]
20-10-2007, 11:01 AM
M4DDOG Your car is a picture of safety hahaha
few hours work
... 30 minutes if you know what you're doing, to get 1 whole wheel done :confused:
Jack her up
Take wheel off
Take brake caliper off
Take rotor off
Get a large hammer and tap the old studs out
New ones should come with a spacer bolt that you can use along with an impact wrench to pull the studs into position with a bolt of same thread, this is of course after lining up the new studs into the spline.
Take a few minutes for each stud.
Then reverse order, the first steps, all done. :)
doddski
20-10-2007, 11:50 AM
Can this be done with a normal ratchet set or do i need a torque wrench?
Please help me, want to get my new mags on by tonight, but need the car to drive tonight (2 studs off the same wheel :().
i was told by my dad who is a mechanic, that if you do a bolt up with a torque wrench, it should be undone with it was well.
personally though, i have always been able to get away with the supercheap special ratchet - but at the same time, i have never done wheel studs, so i dont know how suitable it would be in that case...
slyts6
21-10-2007, 07:51 AM
how the hell did you break 2 studs on one wheel!?? bet you stood on the brace didnt you lol!
i had to replace one on my TS. do what the others say and just tap the old ones out. if you broke 2, dont be stupid, replace the 2:nuts:
HyperTF
21-10-2007, 09:59 AM
i was told by my dad who is a mechanic, that if you do a bolt up with a torque wrench, it should be undone with it was well.
Maybe I'm missing something and I am not questioning your fathers expertise, but I used to use torque wrenches all the time in my place of work, and if we would use the them to undo anything we were likely to get the sack (these were huge things for industrial machinery). Reason being is that it would affect the calibration of the torque wrench making it inaccurate and eventually useless by bending it back on its shaft in the opposite way that it was intended to go.
Assuming it is not designed to be used both ways
slyts6
21-10-2007, 11:45 AM
the primary use of a torque wrench is to apply correct torque to a bolt that needs to have an accurate clamping pressure. why would you need to undo it with a torque wrench? if it has a large amount of Nm on it then you'd use a breaker bar.
M4DDOG
21-10-2007, 12:19 PM
how the hell did you break 2 studs on one wheel!?? bet you stood on the brace didnt you lol!
i had to replace one on my TS. do what the others say and just tap the old ones out. if you broke 2, dont be stupid, replace the 2:nuts:
Back when i had the ford rims and used the ford wheel nuts (Which had the wrong thread) stuffed a few of them up (treaded). That's why these have threaded and i had no choice but to snap the stud off.
The 2 on the one wheel isn't as bad as it sounds, there was still plenty of thread left to get the new nut on, so i'm running on 4 until next week when i get it fixed. Yeh it is a fairly easy job, but i've never taken a caliper/hub off so i didn't want to do it wrong or put it back on wrong without someone there who knew their stuff.
Thanks for the advice guys, appreciated! :).
TJ Sports
21-10-2007, 01:33 PM
how'd ya do it Leigh, ive used breaker bars a meter long and jumped up and down on the end to get some nuts off, might try ur technique to get tricky lock nuts off lol
slyts6
21-10-2007, 03:15 PM
so you put wheel nuts on your car that had the wrong thread on them and drove with them on?
M4DDOG
21-10-2007, 04:34 PM
so you put wheel nuts on your car that had the wrong thread on them and drove with them on?
Back in the day yeh, they weren't dangerous because they were still locked onto the wheel stud, but come time trying to take them off....yeh lol.
Alan - I weigh 150kg and a pretty big bloke (as you know), but the easiest way is to turn one way, then the other, back and forth, this will weaken the stud. Then i used a crossbar wheelbrace, one foot on one end and my arms on the other, that's a fair bit of force there :).
doddski
21-10-2007, 09:55 PM
Maybe I'm missing something and I am not questioning your fathers expertise, but I used to use torque wrenches all the time in my place of work, and if we would use the them to undo anything we were likely to get the sack (these were huge things for industrial machinery). Reason being is that it would affect the calibration of the torque wrench making it inaccurate and eventually useless by bending it back on its shaft in the opposite way that it was intended to go.
Assuming it is not designed to be used both ways
maybe that explains why he was always complaining about the torque wrench not torquing up to spec as well as they should have been!
and i personally DO doubt my dads expertise - especially when it comes to him working on my cars... EVERYTHING (and i do mean EVERYTHING) that he touched, had to be redone.
thats why i started to learn myself - so that if i f'd it up, i had to learn how to fix it.. got good practise fixing his stuff ups on my car!
(for the record, maybe its the old saying "never buy a mechanics car, because they never work on thiers properly" also applies to thier sons' (and daughters) cars too! lol)
HyperTF
21-10-2007, 10:01 PM
I had an old man exactly the same ha ha ;)
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