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Blue 380
20-10-2007, 01:17 PM
Fitted the K & N today. Took it for a spin however couldnt notice any improvement in performance. The standard filter is 55mm thick (will post photo soon) so I am hopeful of getting improved fuel economy if nothing else.

The performance of the car now is just about on par with my mates VY SS (245kw?) - I've achieved this for the sum of $305 ($148 muffler, $157 K & N) plus 2 minutes to cut away the rubber seal under the bonnet.

andrewd
20-10-2007, 01:23 PM
thats to be expected, factory fitlers arent as restrictive as ppl have you believe!

so with a K&N that did nothing and a straight through muffler ist good for high 13's low 14's now??

i find that hard to believe

ts3.0
20-10-2007, 01:25 PM
yeah doubt its on par with a v8 ss, but i guess it must be the slow "bogan" driving it cos its a holden :doubt:

Matty_J
20-10-2007, 01:43 PM
Fitted the K & N today. Took it for a spin however couldnt notice any improvement in performance. The standard filter is 55mm thick (will post photo soon) so I am hopeful of getting improved fuel economy if nothing else.

The performance of the car now is just about on par with my mates VY SS (245kw?) - I've achieved this for the sum of $305 ($148 muffler, $157 K & N) plus 2 minutes to cut away the rubber seal under the bonnet.


Mate for one the 380 is 175KW flywheel, so if you think you have gained over 200KW with a muffler change and a new K&N filter then im afraid to say you are in dreamland no offence!!

But this is not to say you have not gained anything but it wouldnt be much more than 175kw lets put it that way!

Grubco
20-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Perhaps the heavier V8 is a tad slower on the take off than the lighter 380. Is the V8 auto? (Cos your's is manual). Fuel/octane difference? Standard diff in the SS? Anyway, I assume you are referring to a stop start take-off?
Anyway, regardless of the flywheel kilowatts, I've read all your posts (and other 380 owners doing these mods) and am very impressed with your mods and their gains.

Disciple
20-10-2007, 02:00 PM
Why is it hard to believe? VY SS is quite heavy and has a poor 4 speed auto. I raced one up a twisty run once in the Ralliart and was quite a bit faster - even on a long straight bit. I'd say there wouldn't be much in it up until 140km/h.

Blue 380
20-10-2007, 02:05 PM
Mate for one the 380 is 175KW flywheel, so if you think you have gained over 200KW with a muffler change and a new K&N filter then im afraid to say you are in dreamland no offence!!

But this is not to say you have not gained anything but it wouldnt be much more than 175kw lets put it that way!

The SS is an auto and perhaps its the way he drives it but he even said himself theres not that much in it. I've got no idea what power mine has as it hasnt been on a dyno so I can only go with my (& my mates) observations.

Knotched
20-10-2007, 03:06 PM
Hahaha!

Go Pete!

I'm rapt you have found the gains I did.
Be careful with the comparisons til you have dyno or 1/4 mile proof but we both know the difference is real and good.
Imagine the gains extractors might make?

I think most owners are going to be very satisfied with the exhaust mod as they know the car will outrun an VE SV6, Aurion and Falcon XR6, the 380's natural competitors.

BTW, I think any gains from tinkering with the inlet are only going to be proven on the dyno. I can't pick the supposed 5kw gain from the 90mm full open throttle at 5500rpm and any gain from the K&N may be a useful 2-3kw but you aren't going to feel it against ~180hp your car is now putting to the front wheels.

Knotched
20-10-2007, 03:18 PM
But this is not to say you have not gained anything but it wouldnt be much more than 175kw lets put it that way!

Three tuners; Romanos, ChipTorque and Sport's tuner have all said to me a dyno's measurement in HP is closely equivalent to KW at the fly.

That puts my auto output at ~183 kw. What a manual is getting maybe significantly more without the auto's inefficiency. While I don't think it's 200KW, it's a lot more than 175 and could be well above 183.

Lucifer
20-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Until official figures have been presented... Dyno sheets, drag slips... then your estimations have no real validity...

andrewd
20-10-2007, 03:25 PM
there is a guy in vic, a good driver too!!

his 380vrx manual was slower down the 1/4 than his near stock 3.0L 5spd!

and i know a few guys with the same 5.7L auto un modded that have run between 13.9 best avg low 14's and worst low 15's in the vy-vz ss

street racing is NOT a good indicator or how fast your car is vs the car next to you

Blue 380
20-10-2007, 03:29 PM
Hahaha!

Go Pete!

I'm rapt you have found the gains I did.
Be careful with the comparisons til you have dyno or 1/4 mile proof but we both know the difference is real and good.
Imagine the gains extractors might make?

I think most owners are going to be very satisfied with the exhaust mod as they know the car will outrun an VE SV6, Aurion and Falcon XR6, the 380's natural competitors.
Yeah, it would appear I've stirred up a hornets nest!!! It does however make me wonder if the people making the dreamland comments etc have ever driven a V8 Commodore (as opposed to a 4 cylinder TE - no offence). As Disciple said, he dusted a VY SS in his Ralliart & the one I was in felt a long way short of 13 secs. I previously owned a manual 195 kw VT SS & that had nothing on the 380 now.

Knotched
20-10-2007, 03:46 PM
there is a guy in vic, a good driver too!!

his 380vrx manual was slower down the 1/4 than his near stock 3.0L 5spd!


Yes, that's true and I've spoken to him. Except his TH had the usual mods and the 380 didn't.

What we're trying to say here is that the exhaust mod makes a real difference to the performance. More so than doing the same thing to a Magna.

The car is now significantly faster, the top end performance, which has the most to give, is now available unrestricted - what can't you guys understand?


Until official figures have been presented... Dyno sheets, drag slips... then your estimations have no real validity...

Check out the dyno graphs of my car in the begining of this section. There is no estimation.

SH00T
20-10-2007, 04:26 PM
I would like to fit the 90mm intake, cut away the plastic in front of the air intake, and fit K&N, in particularly that order reversed:badgrin: .
I nearly cried today when a bloke at work who owns a 400hp ATW skyline, said "that almost sounds like a commodore":rant:
And guys, Bring on your opinions, thats what makes this place work.:thumbsup:

Tim-E
20-10-2007, 04:27 PM
dyno schmyno! Take it to the strip :)

Type40
20-10-2007, 06:20 PM
cut away the plastic in front of the air intake
I just removed the whole rubber strip and left the clips still attached to the bonnet. That way i can still refit it if i want to.

Knotched
20-10-2007, 06:38 PM
dyno schmyno! Take it to the strip :)

Yes that's right. We need Blue 380 to take a run down the 1/4 :P

I might get an opportunity soon as well.

Now all of us 380 owners feel under the pump to prove what we're saying lol

The dyno results are backing us, but we're also carrying more weight.


I would like to fit the 90mm intake, cut away the plastic in front of the air intake, and fit K&N, in particularly that order reversed:badgrin: .:

You can have mine all day on the Sunshine cruz, bud.

Blue 380
20-10-2007, 06:40 PM
I would like to fit the 90mm intake, cut away the plastic in front of the air intake, and fit K&N, in particularly that order reversed:badgrin: .
I nearly cried today when a bloke at work who owns a 400hp ATW skyline, said "that almost sounds like a commodore":rant:
And guys, Bring on your opinions, thats what makes this place work.:thumbsup:
Sorry to hear your car may sound like a Commodore but I agree with you that its great that people have responded with their thoughts/experiences on my comments - thats what makes this forum so good, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

A couple of points I would like to clarify:
a) I never said or implied my car would be faster than an SS over 400 metres
b) I never said it would have 200kw's.

I did say it felt almost on par with an SS I had been in. Now I acknowledge my comments are based on the feeling I got (& my mate got) when the car pushes you in the back when accelerating & that feeling is totally subjective & cant be proven with figures. I just cant understand why it seems so far fetched that my car is now not that much slower than a mates SS.

Type40
20-10-2007, 06:40 PM
The dyno results are backing us, but we're also carrying more weight.
Thats why its nothing but salad for me from now on Richard...lol

I just cant understand why it seems so far fetched that my car is now not that much slower than a mates SS.
Maybe that elusive Commodore bogan mentality is creeping into AMC?

Knotched
20-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Thats why its nothing but salad for me from now on Richard...lol

lol

I can't get any thinner; I'm 72 kilos now...:redface:

at least you're not dragging around a tippy :D

Type40
20-10-2007, 07:15 PM
lol

I can't get any thinner; I'm 72 kilos now...:redface:
Are you for real??? Unfat! You would be good for at least 10 kw at the wheels! Were you actually sitting in the car when it was dynoed??? lol

vrx boy
20-10-2007, 07:29 PM
I think your claims of being on par with a vy ss arent too far off mate, I raced (till the speed limit of course!) my mate in his vy ss ute 6sp manual,extractors and exhaust and beat him through the first 2 gears and was pulling slightly in 3rd till about 100 then he pulled away. the 380 has great bottom end.:badgrin:

Blue 380
20-10-2007, 08:05 PM
I appreciate your comments....its good to hear that you were actually quicker than a VY SS. As Knotched said, it just goes to show that with a few basic mods you can unleash the potential of the 380 so they can mix it with higher powered cars.

Type40
20-10-2007, 08:12 PM
I appreciate your comments....its good to hear that you were actually quicker than a VY SS. As Knotched said, it just goes to show that with a few basic mods you can unleash the potential of the 380 so they can mix it with higher powered cars.
Yep agreed. They may not be quite as fast but if they can give a LS1 a scare then its all worth it! And just think of the kudos of beating a 5.7 V8 with a 3.8 V6. They hate that.

andrewd
20-10-2007, 08:15 PM
I think your claims of being on par with a vy ss arent too far off mate, I raced (till the speed limit of course!) my mate in his vy ss ute 6sp manual,extractors and exhaust and beat him through the first 2 gears and was pulling slightly in 3rd till about 100 then he pulled away. the 380 has great bottom end.:badgrin:

hahaha your mate is an idiot then, i know someone same set up in their ute and it was pulling 13.4's and one hell of a lot faster than a stock wrx that i was messing around it

dam these 16 second 380 must be really really fast to 30km/h

the reality of it is (i do like 380's a lot!) 380 are much slower than their Magna 3.5L equivalent so just face it!! when a stock 380 runs under 15 seconds as has been done in 3.5L magna many times i'll pretend to take notice of these stupid storys,


again i'll say, dragging on the street is a useless comparison it can go in anyones favour quite easily, like tonight on my little old vespa i kept up with a Harley who was going for it, and it had pipe work done to it... WTH??? a vespa matching it with a harley.... yet on the strip i'd be seeing his tail... if i could see that far ahead

vrx boy
20-10-2007, 08:43 PM
first up lets not go calling other people idiots with out knowing the full facts, my mate has owned many mean cars wrx's, a 327 chev hq ute and many ss's so he can drive trust me. Iam not saying my 380 is a rocket but on that day he was 2up with tools in the back and i was running solo, but i was flat as pancake to keep up. As for a 3.5 running under 15's? where did you get that from? My uncle used to have a manual one and while it went hard not sure it would have run under 15 though. but prove me wrong and ill shut my mouth. And 380 doing a 16sec? my old 147kw vt dunnydore used to do those sorts of times!!!

andrewd
20-10-2007, 09:01 PM
well when you actually go to the track and see the times, i used to go every week to the strip when i had a m-f job

best posted time of a manual 380 so far on the forums is something in the 16's! although i believe best tested time is around Mid 15's but time not posted up..

and i have personally seen manual 3.5's run under 14sec even before i joined AMC.... damn them buggers they are pretty fast..

im not criticising your car i like 380s but it is possible for a 16sec car being well driven 110% to keep up with a 14sec car thats only being driven 90%

me and my best mate both brought IDENTICAL cars, both had no mods whatsoever, yet every time we raced (he is a decent driver) i would win! not cos his car was slower, we swapped to prove that, but because i was able to push it harder, shift faster launch better, even though he dosent suck at driving i was able to slightly improve on the best he could do and it made a fair difference...

380's are a heavier car than the magna, and that dosent help to get the bugger off the line, once moving they travel quite well, but i'd say on the strip VS a 3.5L manual magna the 60ft times of the 380 would be a tenth or two slower at the best.... which is why the magna runs the quicker 1/4 1 10th @ 60ft = 3 10th's at the line

Knotched
20-10-2007, 09:02 PM
the reality of it is (i do like 380's a lot!) 380 are much slower than their Magna 3.5L equivalent so just face it!! when a stock 380 runs under 15 seconds as has been done in 3.5L magna many times i'll pretend to take notice of these stupid storys,


Well I knew it would come to this sooner or later.

Fact is the 380 is terribly restricted mainly by the exhaust and lesser by the intake. My Verada revved better from 3500rpm than my 380, so that's saying something.

But remove the restrictions and the 380 engine shows its true potential.

There's no point saying a stock VRX/Sports whatever Magna beats a 380 because they had less restrictive ADRs to design around and better intake and exhaust flow. The mufflers were less restrictive and they don't have a cat hanging off each exhaust manifold, plus another cat further down. The Magna didn't breathe thru a 4 cylinder intake and have to stay below 62db under full throttle or meet Euro3 emissions.

I don't think anyone here is claiming anything radical that will relegate a manual Magna to the dustbin so just relax, bud. And a stock 380 auto will eat a stock 3.5l auto Magna. You'd better be more specific next time lol

I think it's sad when Magnas first came out the comments were the same from the falcodore crowd and now we're copping the same attitudes from a minority for a 380 that finally is showing some potential.

Hey andrewd, why don't you trade that decharged gold handbag for a 380 and see for yourself? :P

Watch this space, mate. Hopefully there are some surprises in store from the 380; and you'll be cheering us on.

Type40
20-10-2007, 09:10 PM
best posted time of a manual 380 so far on the forums is something in the 16's! although i believe best tested time is around Mid 15's but time not posted up..

and i have personally seen manual 3.5's run under 14sec even before i joined AMC.... damn them buggers they are pretty fast..

Mine ran a 15.4 at 92 mph with less than favourable track conditions and a driver who had the sh*ts all day. Im not sure about a manual 3.5 running under 14 as you mention Andrew... Who's car did that?

Spackbace
20-10-2007, 09:12 PM
Well I knew it would come to this sooner or later

......

I think it's sad when Magnas first came out the comments were the same from the falcodore crowd and now we're copping the same attitudes from a minority for a 380 that finally is showing some potential.

my sentiments exactly... andrew, some people would have said you were stupid for s/c-ing a fwd magna, yet u did it, so why not let the owners of the 380s do watever the hell they want, and actually increase the possibilities of the car? ur reaction is similar to what people would have said to the <15sec manual magna owners few years back.

and as for manual magnas running <14sec, either thats a typo, or they aint exactly stock... no manual sports/vrx etc ran run under 14secs without some form of mods.

now whats the phrase, if you dont have anything nice to say...

andrewd
20-10-2007, 09:19 PM
i dont have a FWD magna

hey man like i said i like the 380, my fav shpae of what around in that class

but.... if toymota had a manual i'd love to see what the aurion would do.. 2nd fav car atm


i know just what bs your getting from members like me, i have an AWD and you should look at the **** fight threads there are on here about my car and how it wouldt handle and how slow it its too... in both cases proven in the real world on amc cruises (and thats without the s/c kit)

it's obviously harder for you guys as there is nothing developed for the 380's i have gone through that a few times before with other cars, where there was no extractors cai k&n etc... that you could get for them, and as time goes on there will be more and more... it is great what some of you have done.. but to make claims that as i mentioned may see you are keeping up with such and such..... it starts to sound like a Binzer thread...

good to know your excited by it, and i really hope someone gets a near stock 380 down the 1/4 in less than 15sec that'll show the crappdorefalcs a thing or two, i just flame though as i have driven a 245kw commo ute with ezh mods etc... nothing major, just basic stuff like most members on here do... and it absolutley bloody hammered.... eat my sc'd magna then came back for 2nds and i was doing 14.4's and putting out aprox 250kw at the fly with a ton more torque than any NA 6G motor will ever see...

Knotched
20-10-2007, 09:29 PM
Don't worry, mate.

I think ppl here, as you said, are just excited by the character of the car being changed so much.

Being revheads, all of us really :D, you can't but help to compare with other cars and, of course, the Commodore is a fair target :badgrin:

I think some good times are going to come. We all know the 380 has to earn it's street cred.

andrewd
20-10-2007, 09:38 PM
Don't worry, mate.

I think ppl here, as you said, are just excited by the character of the car being changed so much.

Being revheads, all of us really :D, you can't but help to compare with other cars and, of course, the Commodore is a fair target :badgrin:

I think some good times are going to come. We all know the 380 has to earn it's street cred.

its great what yor doing mate with yours, being the pioneer really for the 380's and what most of us will be driving and modding when they are 10yo

mate the day i got my awd i was so wrapped coming from a modded 1.5L 5spd fwd :redface:

i dragged a 600cc bike and wow i kept up to 140km/h and he was going hard at it too, but had i have been riding the bike...... HA what magna where lol

commos must just be crap then.... a guy posted on another forum im on that his VX clubby auto ran a 15.4 1/4 at a slower speed than a normal auto magna...

we shal now change the benchmark... to XR6T's stock or something ;)

Knotched
20-10-2007, 09:45 PM
Well, for myself, I'd never compare a V8 with a 6 unless it was forced induction.

The 380 stacks up well against the Commodore 6 cylinder VE range including the 195KW SV6 so that is my target.

Magtone
21-10-2007, 11:13 AM
Sorry to hear your car may sound like a Commodore but I agree with you that its great that people have responded with their thoughts/experiences on my comments - thats what makes this forum so good, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

A couple of points I would like to clarify:
a) I never said or implied my car would be faster than an SS over 400 metres
b) I never said it would have 200kw's.

I did say it felt almost on par with an SS I had been in. Now I acknowledge my comments are based on the feeling I got (& my mate got) when the car pushes you in the back when accelerating & that feeling is totally subjective & cant be proven with figures. I just cant understand why it seems so far fetched that my car is now not that much slower than a mates SS.

I'd agree with ya mate, I just raced my mates VY SS in my auto and was only .45 slower over the 1/4. Might be alot in racing, but on the road it isn't much.

Blue 380
21-10-2007, 02:20 PM
[QUOTE=Magtone I'd agree with ya mate, I just raced my mates VY SS in my auto and was only .45 slower over the 1/4. Might be alot in racing, but on the road it isn't much.[/QUOTE]

I realise this thread started as a K & N issue but quickly turned into a Commodore Vs Mitsubishi debate which was not my intention.

I truly believe there is a perception among many people that when they hear the words "V8 Commodore" they think gee that must be fast. Having previously owned an SS and driven in a few others, the reality is they are not all ridiculously fast (300kw ones certainly are.)

Type 40 stated his ran 15.4 & others here have quoted 15 second times for VY SS & VX Clubsports. Add to that Magtone who was .45 seconds off the pace so I think that pretty much substantiates my original comment that there is not that much between them.

GoTRICE
21-10-2007, 04:45 PM
the 380's from what ive heard have similar top end to a tj man v man and auto v auto. They also are alot more restricted which the magna engines weren't really at all. Which you can see in the gains from exhaust and inlet mods.

These could easy get into the 14's but only a handful of drivers hit the drags and i doubt they're willing to drive them harshly which is what cuts alot of the 1/4 mile time.

My cars never hit 14's but i could do them easy. I just am too much of a ***** to do 3500rpm launches and snap changes in the redline. Cause i can't afford a new clutch i already need right now and i can't afford the entry like andrewd as i love hittin the piss too much right now.

Also my top end is better than stock ls1's (in ute too -70kgs) on private highway 110-150 (thats not even my power band... (130-180 in 3rd). But saying that i still doubt id catch one over the 1/4.

What time have you boys all run?? I may try to get back there... i need a gf hahaha blaze too much cash.

BloodAsp
23-10-2007, 08:22 AM
Hey guys quick question about the whole air intake thing, I've read people cutting or just removing the seal in front of the air intake allowing it to suck in colder air from outside, the thing is I'm not sure i've moved the right thing.
Is this seal the rubber you can see attached to the bonnet it looks like it creates a seal between the intake and...well everything else....I've removed this seal (not cut as i'm not sure about it yet) but I've not noticed any change at all.....maybe once i get the K&N filter installed?

Knotched
23-10-2007, 09:38 AM
Is this seal the rubber you can see attached to the bonnet it looks like it creates a seal between the intake and...well everything else....I've removed this seal (not cut as i'm not sure about it yet) but I've not noticed any change at all.....maybe once i get the K&N filter installed?

Yes, it's attached to the bonnet and is the foremost rubber seal; not the one that actually goes over the intake further back near the radiator rail.
You only need to remove about 5cm directly in front of the inlet so you can cut a piece between the bonnet fasteners, without having to pull any of them out.

Don't expect to be able to tell any difference. The 90mm inlet is the largest change to the intake and that is subtle. We're hoping that doing these little changes they all add up.

The biggest change you can do that will really make a difference is replacing the rear muffler with a straight thru.

Magtone
30-10-2007, 12:25 PM
the 380's from what ive heard have similar top end to a tj man v man and auto v auto. They also are alot more restricted which the magna engines weren't really at all. Which you can see in the gains from exhaust and inlet mods.

These could easy get into the 14's but only a handful of drivers hit the drags and i doubt they're willing to drive them harshly which is what cuts alot of the 1/4 mile time.

My cars never hit 14's but i could do them easy. I just am too much of a ***** to do 3500rpm launches and snap changes in the redline. Cause i can't afford a new clutch i already need right now and i can't afford the entry like andrewd as i love hittin the piss too much right now.

Also my top end is better than stock ls1's (in ute too -70kgs) on private highway 110-150 (thats not even my power band... (130-180 in 3rd). But saying that i still doubt id catch one over the 1/4.

What time have you boys all run?? I may try to get back there... i need a gf hahaha blaze too much cash.

Just take it out...only costs around 36 bucks and you only have to take it up to or three times to get an idea...and you don't need to change at redline. The max power should come in well under that. A change around that point will be better than a redline change for a better time. bit o fun anyway

Sports
30-10-2007, 02:10 PM
I did a 14.8 in my car stock, Stacky did a 14.8 in his car stock.

GoTRICE
30-10-2007, 04:48 PM
Just take it out...only costs around 36 bucks and you only have to take it up to or three times to get an idea...and you don't need to change at redline. The max power should come in well under that. A change around that point will be better than a redline change for a better time. bit o fun anyway

yur ive been 3 times. I had my stocko SOHC clutch which was ****ed and launched from around 1500rpm (guess no tacho with dohc) best launch was a 2.45 60ft and ran 15.6. Should be getting a 2.2 max but yeah need more revs off the line but ill go back when i have money. Just couldnt launch any higher as clutch was ****ed. Oh and i think i missed 3rd.

Ideal change is around 6700 for me... bit past power but good for the next gear. Limiter at 7400.

380 boys should get out there, that might drag me back.

Knotched
05-11-2007, 03:35 PM
Anyway....back on TOPIC (:rant:)

I've just fitted Blue 380's K&N (thnx mate) and felt a slight difference straight away. Minor improvement to accelerator response.

No adverse effects like flat spot or surging etc. which suggests it may be designed for the 90mm intake not the OZ intake.

The 380 ECU seems to like a week or two adjusting to intake and exhaust changes so I'll post up more on the w/e.

Blue 380
05-11-2007, 05:32 PM
Anyway....back on TOPIC (:rant:)

I've just fitted Blue 380's K&N (thnx mate) and felt a slight difference straight away. Minor improvement to accelerator response.

No adverse effects like flat spot or surging etc. which suggests it may be designed for the 90mm intake not the OZ intake.

The 380 ECU seems to like a week or two adjusting to intake and exhaust changes so I'll post up more on the w/e.

You've got a good point there about the K & N being designed for the larger intake....makes sense when you think that particular K & N is actually listed for a US Galant (which has 90mm intake) rather than an Aust 380.

Knotched
07-11-2007, 04:32 AM
Only a couple of days with the new filter but -

Definitely improved sensitivity and throttle response. I wouldn't say razor sharp but a good improvement, might be even more on a manual. I seem to be off the throttle a lot more in cruising and traffic, it must be doing wonders to my fuel economy...

A must with the 90mm intake in my opinion.

Blue 380
17-11-2007, 11:54 AM
Only a couple of days with the new filter but -

Definitely improved sensitivity and throttle response. I wouldn't say razor sharp but a good improvement, might be even more on a manual. I seem to be off the throttle a lot more in cruising and traffic, it must be doing wonders to my fuel economy...

A must with the 90mm intake in my opinion.
Hey Knotched, its now been about 2 weeks since you fitted the K & N.....are you still happy? Any sign of a flat spot? I'm looking to get one based on your reviews when Rocket get some more in stock at the end of this month.

Knotched
17-11-2007, 03:22 PM
The K&N works really well with the 90mm. Much improved throttle response and gets rid of the "just off idle" doughy feeling when you are squeezing the accelerator up hills.
Definitely no flat spots, quite the opposite.

Now I've got one from a well known benefactor, I definitely won't be selling it :P

SH00T
17-11-2007, 03:27 PM
Got my intake on friday, but with two Partys and working on the weekend, I wont be able to squeeze it in til next week:doubt: , Phooey, Its like havin a Xmas Pressie under the tree and not allowed to play with it.

Knotched
17-11-2007, 03:37 PM
That's alright.

You'll be able to bring it out at parties and say 'look at my big.........snorkel' :D

seadevil
17-11-2007, 03:47 PM
Any reason people arnt using this K&N filter from RPW's website? It says it suits the 380 among other cars

K&N Filtercharger Kit 57-0649

SH00T
17-11-2007, 03:54 PM
K&N Filtercharger Kit 57-0649

Thats just the filter clean and re oil kit.
As Posted Before, The 33-2285 is the Air filter you need, it fits the 380, though it is a Galant Filter, and thus works best with the Galant 90mm Intake, I'm sure K&N dont say its suits the 380 coz there are no benefits fitting to the 380 with the factory intake.

Its available from autobahn and any other supplier for that matter, upon request by the Part number, ask for a 380 one and you'll get ' they don't have one.

Or you can order from the K&N importer and save a few bob.

seadevil
17-11-2007, 03:58 PM
fair enough. got lost in all the replies i have read.:nuts:

SH00T
17-11-2007, 04:03 PM
fair enough. got lost in all the replies i have read.:nuts:

No drama's, I would get the 90mm intake first tho, definately the best dollar/performance Item around. That said most have a straight through muffler fitted. You can get both of those for under $250.00 and come Highly recommended. K&N last.