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White
22-10-2007, 04:51 PM
hi. ive been brainstorming some engine mods and came up with direct injected metho. just wondering wat affect it would have. would it be similar to nos or will it do jack. ive already got the plans sorted out i just want to now if it would be worth it.

Mrmacomouto
22-10-2007, 04:54 PM
Metholated spirits or methanol?

[TUFFTR]
22-10-2007, 04:54 PM
hi. ive been brainstorming some engine mods and came up with direct injected metho. just wondering wat affect it would have. would it be similar to nos or will it do jack. ive already got the plans sorted out i just want to now if it would be worth it.

What the hell does that do?
Like i said Engine mods=DOHC 3L

White
22-10-2007, 04:56 PM
Metholated spirits or methanol?

Metholated spirits

_stonesour_
22-10-2007, 04:57 PM
a mate of mine makes up a special mixture to clean out his car lol, metho plus a few other things, showed the guy at graham wests dyno and he couldnt belive how well it cleaned it out, blew white smoke everey where for 30 seconds then ran 20 15 kw's more on dyno HAHA

as far as i know it wont do anything like what u expect it will, just blows the cobwebs out instead of giving more power, i really wouldnt advise playing around with things like that

White
22-10-2007, 04:57 PM
']What the hell does that do?
Like i said Engine mods=DOHC 3L

i dont really know ive never heard of it being done before i was just trying to get some opinions. i dont really want to swap engines.

Mrmacomouto
22-10-2007, 04:59 PM
What am I thinking, either way, more power, one you pay for an after market ecu and a dyno tune.

Oh and new fuel lines, maybe pump and injectors.

Black Beard
22-10-2007, 05:00 PM
Well it certainly wouldn't be similar to "nos". I'm guessing it would "do jack". Considering the new ethanol blended fuels are basically petroleum with 5 - 10% alcohol added, and ethanol is a hell of alot more pure than methylated spirits.

[TUFFTR]
22-10-2007, 05:00 PM
i dont really know ive never heard of it being done before i was just trying to get some opinions. i dont really want to swap engines.

Well its been done before by 3 members on here (2 still active) talk to GoTRICE about it.
His 2nd gen match most 5L's on the road and even give LS1's a punt.
Not bad for the $5K approx he spent on it.
and personally you'd never get that quick with the SOHC.
Ive dont plenty of research on it too and im doing it myself but with the 3.5L.
just have a chat to some of us about the conversion im sure we can change your mind

Mrmacomouto
22-10-2007, 05:01 PM
Oh an also, metho is about 95-98% Ethanol, so look that up.

Mrmacomouto
22-10-2007, 05:05 PM
Wait, do you mean running it as a fuel? or just spraying it into the intake?

White
22-10-2007, 05:06 PM
ive decided to twin turbo the 6g72 once ive saved the cash:cry: after i get my new front bar. it was just an idea. im always looking for new things to try. would there be any other liquids similar to nos that might work.

Black Beard
22-10-2007, 05:06 PM
Wait, do you mean running it as a fuel? or just spraying it into the intake?

Either way - it's gonna do **** all "performance wise".

White
22-10-2007, 05:07 PM
Wait, do you mean running it as a fuel? or just spraying it into the intake?

similar to a nos set up except direct injected into each port.

Black Beard
22-10-2007, 05:08 PM
would there be any other liquids similar to nos that might work.

"nos" isn't a liquid... it's a gas with a higher oxygen content than the air in our atmosphere.

White
22-10-2007, 05:18 PM
i dont want to use methonal coz it corrodes metals including alloy which surprised me coz most race cars use it.

Mrmacomouto
22-10-2007, 05:22 PM
it could have a similar effect, when nos is under the high pressure the two oxygens break off, providing more oxygen increasing the burn.

metho could do the same, as when it burns less oxygen is required than petrol.

White
22-10-2007, 05:26 PM
what about nitromethane. it similar to methonal and i dont think it corrodes the engine like methonal.

mozzaldinho
22-10-2007, 05:30 PM
what about nitromethane. it similar to methonal and i dont think it corrodes the engine like methonal.


the method/recipe to the best injection:

waht you need:
4-6 sticks of dynamite (depending on cylinders on the car)
1 four or six cylindar engine.

what to do:
put 1 stick of dynamite into each cylinder.
light them,
reassmble engine.
start the car and hti the gas.



dude i think that people around the wolrd have probabaly tried everything possible, and if it was a good mixture, it would be very well known, ie, nos.

Mrmacomouto
22-10-2007, 05:30 PM
Rear mount turbo will give you the best bang for buck.

[TUFFTR]
22-10-2007, 05:34 PM
Rear mount turbo will give you the best bang for buck.

Ahem....DOHC Will give you best bang for buck as you have room to upgrade from the standard engine.
A turboed SOHC Will go about as fast as a standard DOHC engine, but the DOHC still has the headroom for more and more work.

White
22-10-2007, 05:37 PM
']Ahem....DOHC Will give you best bang for buck as you have room to upgrade from the standard engine.
A turboed SOHC Will go about as fast as a standard DOHC engine, but the DOHC still has the headroom for more and more work.

seriosly how much kw does a stock dohc 3lt have?

Mrmacomouto
22-10-2007, 05:41 PM
spray some in and find out dude

White
22-10-2007, 05:45 PM
has anyone turboed a 6g72 engine?

[TUFFTR]
22-10-2007, 05:46 PM
seriosly how much kw does a stock dohc 3lt have?

About 160ish at the flywheel
its a 3000GT motor....google it or something

Lucifer
22-10-2007, 05:56 PM
Metho injection? ****... You'd get more of a perceived performance gain by direct injecting it into your stomach... Plenty of room for improvement when you're hallucinating :nuts:

Just swap the damn engine boy, otherwise take off that GT badge.

Knotched
22-10-2007, 06:23 PM
the method/recipe to the best injection:

waht you need:
4-6 sticks of dynamite (depending on cylinders on the car)
1 four or six cylindar engine.

what to do:
put 1 stick of dynamite into each cylinder.
light them,
reassmble engine.
start the car and hti the gas.



dude i think that people around the wolrd have probabaly tried everything possible, and if it was a good mixture, it would be very well known, ie, nos.

Bwahaha! Love it...

I got another;
stick your bum out the window and fart!

BiG 4 CyL
22-10-2007, 06:33 PM
Bwahaha! Love it...

I got another;
stick your bum out the window and fart!

hahaha doesnt need time to spool up either!

GoTRICE
22-10-2007, 06:57 PM
']Well its been done before by 3 members on here (2 still active) talk to GoTRICE about it.
His 2nd gen match most 5L's on the road and even give LS1's a punt.
Not bad for the $5K approx he spent on it.
and personally you'd never get that quick with the SOHC.
Ive dont plenty of research on it too and im doing it myself but with the 3.5L.
just have a chat to some of us about the conversion im sure we can change your mind

5L's no worries. 5L clubby's i've got and theyre a fair bit quicker than the 5L. Better top end than ls1's but i doubt i'd be able to drag one back over the 1/4.

Oh and 165kw at the fly less with the aging.

No offence dude but you dont know enough to start getting power out of your car. Anything you do you'll get ripped off cause you haven't researched dont know what you're talking about. Saying that i learn by doing **** but you gotta read up and you'lll know what you can do before you have to ask silly questions ie you'll have the knowledge that this is a silly question and wont bother asking.

White
22-10-2007, 07:02 PM
if i was to convert to a dohc should i do a manual conversion as well

Trotty
22-10-2007, 07:03 PM
From my knowledge metho injection is just another form of cooling down inlet temps in HIGH boost applications.... So yeah you will make more HP using it, IF you had detonation problems, WITH high boost!

Anybody? confirm?

White
22-10-2007, 07:04 PM
also how much did it cost for just the engine as if i get one id fully work it before i fit it.

GoTRICE
22-10-2007, 07:18 PM
yes and no on the manual conversion.

A stock manual gbox couldnt handle 300kwatw if you get a TT. Youd be better getting a custom gearbox made... which would probably be an auto.

I was able to find TT motors for 3k$ but i got my 1/2 cut DOHC motor for 2000$. With the dohc it wouldnt be cheap to work even doing your own labour.

Trotty
22-10-2007, 07:20 PM
. With the dohc it wouldnt be cheap to work even doing your own labour.


MMMMMMM losta little pretty things that go up and down....:bowrofl:

White
22-10-2007, 07:43 PM
what was the engine name of the dohc, eg 6g72 (is the sohc)

GoTRICE
22-10-2007, 07:46 PM
what was the engine name of the dohc, eg 6g72 (is the sohc)

it too is a 6g72, also a 3L same bore and stroke and compression ratio. Different heads and maybe some other things. Type mitsubishi 6g72 wiki into google and read to your hearts content. Also type in DOHC into the search function here and read to your hearts content.

Trotty
22-10-2007, 07:47 PM
Same for the DOHC... Both are 6G72... 6G74 are the 3.5lt