well tufftr and gotrice has convinced me to do a dohc conversion on me ts magna. only one problem were can i get the engine? ive already called eddy wreckers, magna wreck, mitsi spares and mitsi_bits. theve told me to try a jap importer.

any other places that might sell these engines. i live in sa.

did you break your engine?

Is your car a hobby car or a daily driver car?

Are you going to do the Engine swap yourself?

Should be a fun project nevertheless, i hope you've got everything listed down and have all the parts ready before you start work.

Good luck.

I have the same question mytsgt93, i don't know where to find one. I've been told to keep ringing different wreckers around the joint, and that one is bound to turn up.

did you break your engine?

Is your car a hobby car or a daily driver car?

Are you going to do the Engine swap yourself?

Should be a fun project nevertheless, i hope you've got everything listed down and have all the parts ready before you start work.

Good luck.

my engine is fine im just searching for aheap of power.
if i can get my hands on an engine i will be working it.

forged pistons
forged conrods
alloy block (if someone can make it)
bored out to a 3.5lt
stage 2 camshafts
work rocker gear
port and polish
thermo block
oversized throttlebody
bigger injectors/fuel rail/pump etc
twin turbos


all this on lpg. it will be a project but i can still drive me magna until its ready to be fitted.ill be doing as much of the work as i can as it will be a expensive project.

Ooh yeah!:D U can say that twice.... But it will go very nice if this comes through....:badgrin:

my engine is fine im just searching for aheap of power.
if i can get my hands on an engine i will be working it.

forged pistons
forged conrods
alloy block (if someone can make it)
bored out to a 3.5lt
stage 2 camshafts
work rocker gear
port and polish
thermo block
oversized throttlebody
bigger injectors/fuel rail/pump etc
twin turbos

uhhhh, are you a CEO of some major company that makes engines and is able to put forth the money for such a.. wasteful and costly endeavor?

HAHA i'm surprised you didn't want to throw in a RWD or AWD conversion too, may as well..

Why not purchase a 3000GT front cut that already has the gear and twin turbos? Can you even bore a 3L to 3.5? You might need to stroke it instead, or bore AND stroke.. Why not just get some forgies and wild cams and headwork and a fat nitros set-up?

Seriously though dude, look at the cost of Daves RPW TT magna, can you front that much with doing all the labour yourself?

The way i see it is you're:
A) dreaming.
B) You're going the long way about building an engine that already pretty much exists from factory, with turbo manifolds the whole deal so you may as well start off from there and save yourself the cash. Hell why not just get the heads imported for the DOHC? Get some wild custom cams made up, rebuild your current block with the whole nine yards, linished crank, forged light weight rods and crazy low compression pistons, 1000cc injectors, custom plenum, fuel cell with surge tank and a half dozen pumps, baffled sump, oil jets for your mad head work, custom fuel rails to handle the extra juice, Autronic with Motec dash and the rest, along with two GT40R turbos and the bonnet replaced with a custom bonnet sized fmic... :gtfo: Blah you'll never have the cash so just sell up and buy a skyline like everyone else is doing. (or VR4 Galant/Legnum, after all it is V6 and TT + AWD)

hasn't obviously done the research i advised otherwise he'd know of the TT motor with its beautiful 8:1 compression ratio.

PS found out today pretty much dead even performance with a stockish r33 (no launching involved)

[QUOTE=Nick]uhhhh, are you a CEO of some major company that makes engines and is able to put forth the money for such a.. wasteful and costly endeavor?

HAHA i'm surprised you didn't want to throw in a RWD or AWD conversion too, may as well..

Why not purchase a 3000GT front cut that already has the gear and twin turbos? Can you even bore a 3L to 3.5?

would the 3000gt engine bolt straight in or would i have to change the whole driveline.

[QUOTE=Nick]uhhhh, are you a CEO of some major company that makes engines and is able to put forth the money for such a.. wasteful and costly endeavor?

HAHA i'm surprised you didn't want to throw in a RWD or AWD conversion too, may as well..

Why not purchase a 3000GT front cut that already has the gear and twin turbos? Can you even bore a 3L to 3.5?

would the 3000gt engine bolt straight in or would i have to change the whole driveline.

3000GT engine is the same bloody engine.
if you live in VIC there are 2 places off the top of my head which have DOHC engine.
manuals automatic transmissions in thomastown have one and EKW wreckers in east keilor have 5 motors.

I can see this going very far :doubt:

'][QUOTE=mytsgt95]

3000GT engine is the same bloody engine.
if you live in VIC there are 2 places off the top of my head which have DOHC engine.
manuals automatic transmissions in thomastown have one and EKW wreckers in east keilor have 5 motors.


omg, thats a pissa,i just saw your avatar tufftr, hahahaha fully.

'][QUOTE=mytsgt95]

3000GT engine is the same bloody engine.
if you live in VIC there are 2 places off the top of my head which have DOHC engine.
manuals automatic transmissions in thomastown have one and EKW wreckers in east keilor have 5 motors.
Yup EKW (east keilor wreckers) had a few last time i called them up.

This will never happen, Lock it and throw away the key, dude isn't even doing the e-leg work advised by other members and is getting advice from Tuff! We're all doomed!


Seriously though, apart from the 3000GT/GTO/Dodge Stealth 24v being different because of those twin turbos (tuff, no wonder your engine is falling apart, it's all that vtec power!), it'll sit the same in the engine bay apart from those maggots hanging off the manifolds, I've always been a bit skeptical of the rear turbo clearance in reference to the firewall, but that's just me.

Best idea would be a tape measure. Find someone that has a twin turbo variant and measure the sucker up and then measure your engine bay - this way it doesn't cost you ANYTHING if it doesn't fit! or you will know if you need to make new custom manifolds if you're really stubborn and want to proceed, not like it'll happen though because your list of mods before probably hits the 10 grand mark not including the engine or install or dyno tune, i mean, after all you didn't even mention an aftermarket ECU which will set you back at least 2K installed & tuned.

I'd say you'd get near on the same performance from a stock 24vTT vs your rebuilt 12vTT. The US VR4 came with 220kw and the GTO came with 200kw so neither of those figures should be sneezed at.

Your list is now:
*/ Work or die - NB 1=yes 0=no /*
include engine.h
include gun.h

Find 24v TT;
Measure TT;
Measure your engine bay;

if
Engine fits=1;
DO(Buy);
else
DO(handgun to temple);
DO(Shoot);

print('Game Over');

Once you have a 24vTT the only mods you'd have to do for mad power is better bumpsticks and highflow those snails or perhaps buy some higher flowing units, FM with a bit of cry02/water spray for those hot days in traffic, normal upgrades (fuel, brakes, suspension, penis extension etc)

This will never happen, Lock it and throw away the key, dude isn't even doing the e-leg work advised by other members and is getting advice from Tuff! We're all doomed!

Hey Ive actually got the engine and manual box and im doing this bit by bit.
Research helps alot:D

i have found a 3000gt(gto) engine for $2400 this includes engine, manifolds and turbos. but excludes wiring and cpu but they dont worry me as i can make the wiring harness and ill get a standalone cpu. is this a good price? IVE ONLY RANG ONE PLACE.

i have found a 3000gt(gto) engine for $2400 this includes engine, manifolds and turbos. but excludes wiring and cpu but they dont worry me as i can make the wiring harness and ill get a standalone cpu. is this a good price? IVE ONLY RANG ONE PLACE.

omfg
ECU NOT CPU ITS NOT A PENTUIM DOHC

']omfg
ECU NOT CPU ITS NOT A PENTUIM DOHC

same fn thing.

same fn thing.

Yeah ok go to a performance shop and ask for a friggin CPU and see how much they laugh at you.

You - "haiz id like to buy a CPU For My GT Magna"
Them - :gtfo:

*cut to pic of a Pentium glued to an engine block*

lol

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/z0mgluke/shipmentoffail.jpg

']omfg
ECU NOT CPU ITS NOT A PENTUIM DOHC


:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/z0mgluke/shipmentoffail.jpg

:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

gold mate gold.

good to see we can all encourage a fellow member :doubt:

mate if u got plans, NIKE principal, Just Do It:badgrin: ! but at least do a bit of research to save your wallet

:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

gold mate gold.

good to see we can all encourage a fellow member :doubt:

mate if u got plans, NIKE principal, Just Do It:badgrin: ! but at least do a bit of research to save your wallet

Ok..



forged pistons
forged conrods
alloy block (if someone can make it)
bored out to a 3.5lt
stage 2 camshafts
work rocker gear
port and polish
thermo block
oversized throttlebody
bigger injectors/fuel rail/pump etc
twin turbos


Now im all for helping etc etc, But the DOHC Doesnt even have rocker gear as the Cam sits on the valves (pretty sure on this AJ can confirm it i guess)

']Hey Ive actually got the engine and manual box and im doing this bit by bit.
Research helps alot:D

You've got a TT and are doing the conversion? Your self? Have you sat down to think about that? Is there enough oil in the world to cope with the leakages?

ONLY KIDDING, take it easy champ, i can see the rage tremble in that keyboard.

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OK I'm all for telling off people who don't take instructions and follow advice but lets start helping this guy instead of being Tuff's, i mean, penises.

Dude you DO NOT want to make a loom yourself, sure it may sound easy but even to the most hardcore automotive electrician - it gets boring, you make short cuts and "ah **** it's" and before you know it your knock sensor is actually connected to your temp sender and your radio turns on when you press the horn.

3si probably have someone in US who make looms so perhaps they can do it for you, after all a full loom will take hours and hours whereas it may cost you $500 but it'll save a lot of screwing about.

Seriously I'd say if you desperately want to turbocharge the magna, buy the 24vTT and just wait until you can afford to install it, don't worry about all this tuning **** until you know what a factory TT feels like, after all you might be satisfied.. for a while anyway.. plus you have a long way to go with decent brakes and suspension, brakes are just as expensive as engine mods too remember.

Your ECU (engine control unit, electronics control unit, blah blah) or EMS (engine management system) will cost you a dime too, you might be better off ordering a stock ECU and loom from the US or getting one imported from the likes of just jap etc.. and if you want to mod then i'm sure Wolf have an ecu that can be plugged into the stock loom or you can piggyback.

My serious advice is stay focused on the simple facts of getting the engine and stock running components and getting it in, not to mention making sure your local DOT (dept. of transport) will pass it and an engineer will pass it also, you may need to write into them with a letter of intent to modify and they will tell you straight up if it's acceptable or not and you'll probably need an engineer to follow the process so you don't go spending big bucks on crap that wont be legal.

Unfortunately you're in for a big-ass slog and probably wont make it, a 24v atmo conversion will give you great results and is legal and probably more realistic but hey, go for it, if you're serious it'll happen and no doubt you'll get some kudos from the magna community and just get slagged more from everyone else but like i say, **** it. I like my car so they can all suck my ****.

basically the **** you wanna do is hard and alot of work and you sound like you have no chance of doing the things you can. Ppl wont help if they think its a waste of time.

Also the things you wanna do in a rebuild would cost about 20000 to get it all happening.

ps stand alone ecu > stocko; love how easy to tune my car is. Gotta learn how first.

Also paul i think they are rocker arms... have to check. As i dont think cams directly onto valves would be benificial over the long run as clearance would start to appear where rocker arms could close them with extra springs... ill check in a sec

You've got a TT and are doing the conversion? Your self? Have you sat down to think about that? Is there enough oil in the world to cope with the leakages?

ONLY KIDDING, take it easy champ, i can see the rage tremble in that keyboard.

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OK I'm all for telling off people who don't take instructions and follow advice but lets start helping this guy instead of being Tuff's, i mean, penises.

Dude you DO NOT want to make a loom yourself, sure it may sound easy but even to the most hardcore automotive electrician - it gets boring, you make short cuts and "ah **** it's" and before you know it your knock sensor is actually connected to your temp sender and your radio turns on when you press the horn.

3si probably have someone in US who make looms so perhaps they can do it for you, after all a full loom will take hours and hours whereas it may cost you $500 but it'll save a lot of screwing about.

Seriously I'd say if you desperately want to turbocharge the magna, buy the 24vTT and just wait until you can afford to install it, don't worry about all this tuning **** until you know what a factory TT feels like, after all you might be satisfied.. for a while anyway.. plus you have a long way to go with decent brakes and suspension, brakes are just as expensive as engine mods too remember.

Your ECU (engine control unit, electronics control unit, blah blah) or EMS (engine management system) will cost you a dime too, you might be better off ordering a stock ECU and loom from the US or getting one imported from the likes of just jap etc.. and if you want to mod then i'm sure Wolf have an ecu that can be plugged into the stock loom or you can piggyback.

My serious advice is stay focused on the simple facts of getting the engine and stock running components and getting it in, not to mention making sure your local DOT (dept. of transport) will pass it and an engineer will pass it also, you may need to write into them with a letter of intent to modify and they will tell you straight up if it's acceptable or not and you'll probably need an engineer to follow the process so you don't go spending big bucks on crap that wont be legal.

Unfortunately you're in for a big-ass slog and probably wont make it, a 24v atmo conversion will give you great results and is legal and probably more realistic but hey, go for it, if you're serious it'll happen and no doubt you'll get some kudos from the magna community and just get slagged more from everyone else but like i say, **** it. I like my car so they can all suck my ****.

cheers nick. with the wirring loom i was going to modify the factory wirring harnes to suit the new engine if the ecu plugs matched.

another quistion does the 3000gt engine have forged pistons.

asking the dot is actually a good idea.

its amazing how "fully sick" some is goin to "do up" their car the second they get their p's, i call bs on the majority of these plans

prove me wrong

cheers nick. with the wirring loom i was going to modify the factory wirring harnes to suit the new engine if the ecu plugs matched.

another quistion does the 3000gt engine have forged pistons.

asking the dot is actually a good idea.

The TT one does AFAIK

its amazing how "fully sick" some is goin to "do up" their car the second they get their p's, i call bs on the majority of these plans

prove me wrong

Come on now, i said lets give him some support!

yay for turbos.. :redface: and the ability to fart..

*/ Work or die - NB 1=yes 0=no /*
include engine.h
include gun.h

Find 24v TT;
Measure TT;
Measure your engine bay;

if
Engine fits=1;
DO(Buy);
else
DO(handgun to temple);
DO(Shoot);

print('Game Over');Someone's been programming of late lol
C? Microcontroller?

Someone's been programming of late lol
C? Microcontroller?
Reminds me of BASIC lol Either way... Programming languages = fail

why not just skip the 3000gt engine and put in a twin turbo ls1 and a rear wheel drive conversion?

about the wiring, a mate of mine works as an auto elec apprentice and a guy bought in a (GQ i think) patrol and they are puting a hummer body on it to make a fake hummer, he had to wire it up, absolutelty everything because the two looms were way different, took him 3 days

3 x 8 = 24 hours @ 50 an hour = $1200 just for wiring alone!

think about it mate, maybe not such a good idea after all


LS1 FTW!!!!

why not just skip the 3000gt engine and put in a twin turbo ls1 and a rear wheel drive conversion?

about the wiring, a mate of mine works as an auto elec apprentice and a guy bought in a (GQ i think) patrol and they are puting a hummer body on it to make a fake hummer, he had to wire it up, absolutelty everything because the two looms were way different, took him 3 days

3 x 8 = 24 hours @ 50 an hour = $1200 just for wiring alone!

think about it mate, maybe not such a good idea after all


LS1 FTW!!!!

im an apprentice auto elec so i can get the stuff for cheap and make it in my own time but i was going to modify the original wirring loom to suit if it had the same ecu connectors.

been doing some research

would a stock auto be able to handle the extra power?

been doing some research

would a stock auto be able to handle the extra power?

Yep. Chuck is running his with an auto. Dont see him complaining there

']Yep. Chuck is running his with an auto. Dont see him complaining there

so hes running a 3000gt tt engine with a stock 4sp auto and has had no probs.

excellent.

so hes running a 3000gt tt engine with a stock 4sp auto and has had no probs.

excellent.

nah DOHC...

depends, you do burnouts it definately wont. but unfortunately no bodies found the limits of our gearboxes on here... try the us sites..

so hes running a 3000gt tt engine with a stock 4sp auto and has had no probs.

excellent.
Why the **** would you leave it as an automatic?!

Why the **** would you leave it as an automatic?!

Pimp factor? you can't pimp with a manual, pimps are lazy remember?

I saw the hummer conversions at the jambo, didn't really blow my mind.. i'd prefer the QSM fezza.

ive talked to a transmission place and they reckon the trans will handle the power as long as i dont flog it all the time.

next is to ring DOT and see whether it will be legal.

Pimp factor? you can't pimp with a manual, pimps are lazy remember?
Very true... the left hand is not the pimp's strongest hand, that belongs to the right hand, and changing gears would result in weak shifting... Can't have that.

Very true... the left hand is not the pimp's strongest hand, that belongs to the right hand, and changing gears would result in weak shifting... Can't have that.

whatt did the five fingers say to the face.

SLAP!

keep yo pimp hand strong child.

I'm not too sure on magna manuals but some guys at work have/had worked holdens with autos and they go strong. One dude has a VS s/charged and modded and the other had an old school monaro modded..

You'd need some sort of shift kit to get more performance out of it and maybe some cryo treatment or something if they can't handle the task, either that or manual conversion to the FM33 5sp that was in the 24v TT (and some SOHC like mine ;) )

I'm not too sure on magna manuals but some guys at work have/had worked holdens with autos and they go strong. One dude has a VS s/charged and modded and the other had an old school monaro modded..

You'd need some sort of shift kit to get more performance out of it and maybe some cryo treatment or something if they can't handle the task, either that or manual conversion to the FM33 5sp that was in the 24v TT (and some SOHC like mine ;) )

FM33 5sp...is that just a normal magna box?

Very true... the left hand is not the pimp's strongest hand, that belongs to the right hand, and changing gears would result in weak shifting... Can't have that.

lucifer will you stop being a ****ing wanker and give the guy some bloody advice...ffs!

']FM33 5sp...is that just a normal magna box?

AFAIK there were two. FM33 and FM35 or was it FM31 and FM33?? KB would know. The earlier of the two were in the DOHC NA GTO's and were tougher (I thought were the FM33 but if it's FM31 and FM33 it's the 31).. I COULD go out and check buuuuuuuuuuut it's hot in Brisbane and my work has loooovely air con.

I'll say it's FM33 and FM35, perhaps the TE's got the weaker boxes.. yeah, lets go with that..

Someone's been programming of late lol
C? Microcontroller?

More like delphi. Some real basic ****.

lucifer will you stop being a ****ing wanker and give the guy some bloody advice...ffs!

ease up mate if it werent for people like him this whole forum would be just a bunch of angry noobs flaming each other, a bit of humour doesnt hurt anyone

ease up mate if it werent for people like him this whole forum would be just a bunch of angry noobs flaming each other, a bit of humour doesnt hurt anyone

was kinda sarcastic but it wasnt...u know when you're p[issed off but kinda amused at the same time..lol

ive talked to a transmission place and they reckon the trans will handle the power as long as i dont flog it all the time.

next is to ring DOT and see whether it will be legal.
Haha, so you're going to drop a DOHC TT motor in that will have power oozing out of it, and you're not going to flog it much? Why bother :P.
I'd definitely be looking into maybe upgrading the transmission cooler, and perhaps strengthening anything that you can.

More like delphi. Some real basic ****.

Try C Fool. MEET MY FRIEND PAAAAAAAAAAAIN... Haven't actually written anything in C in a LONG LONG time, at least 3 years minimum, more like 5 realistically so it's more like psuedo code/real code mixture..


Haha, so you're going to drop a DOHC TT motor in that will have power oozing out of it, and you're not going to flog it much? Why bother :P.
I'd definitely be looking into maybe upgrading the transmission cooler, and perhaps strengthening anything that you can.

Word. Strengthen everything you can and then some as well as a trans cooler as big as your radiator or just go manual and get a cushioned 8 puck button clutch and see if an LSD from a fwd GTO can be imported for the box otherwise you'll be toasting one tire whilst rolling backwards on a slight incline.

Haha, so you're going to drop a DOHC TT motor in that will have power oozing out of it, and you're not going to flog it much? Why bother :P.


Why bother making your car look like a Ralliart, when it clearly isnt?

Because he can.

Why bother making your car look like a Ralliart, when it clearly isnt?

Because he can.


Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand back to trying to give this guy advice not nitpicking each-other..........

mytsgt95, have you done it yet or WHAT?

sorry havent had time lately been workin late and redoing the rooflinning in my car.
ive been doing research.

i will be ringing the dot asap to find out if the conversion will be legal.
if it is legal ( i shouldnt need a engineers report as its the same engine block and its been done before) i wont be fitting the turbos until im 21 as i wont be able to legally own it:cry:.
but i will just modify me extractors from this engine that ive got now to fit the new one.

if it all goes to plan i should be doing the conversion after new yaer as iv got 3 weeks off of work.

sorry havent had time lately been workin late and redoing the rooflinning in my car.
ive been doing research.

i will be ringing the dot asap to find out if the conversion will be legal.
if it is legal ( i shouldnt need a engineers report as its the same engine block and its been done before) i wont be fitting the turbos until im 21 as i wont be able to legally own it:cry:.
but i will just modify me extractors from this engine that ive got now to fit the new one.

if it all goes to plan i should be doing the conversion after new yaer as iv got 3 weeks off of work.


your profile reckons you're 17 so thats at least 3 yrs away...
Youre not think running a turbo engine in NA are you? cause that would be pretty gutless at an 8:1 comp ratio.

Ithink youll need a cert as na to forced induction usually requires a certificate in most states.

Also it will be more a case of making new extractors as oppose to modification.

your profile reckons you're 17 so thats at least 3 yrs away...
Youre not think running a turbo engine in NA are you? cause that would be pretty gutless at an 8:1 comp ratio.

Ithink youll need a cert as na to forced induction usually requires a certificate in most states.

Also it will be more a case of making new extractors as oppose to modification.

yes it will be gutless but i suppose i could fit the turbos after it goes to regency as long as i dont get pulled over by the cops. coz then im f*****

yes it will be gutless but i suppose i could fit the turbos after it goes to regency as long as i dont get pulled over by the cops. coz then im f*****

take it one step at a time.
Think about getting in the N/A one first, enjoy it, then when time and money permits think larger.
On that note, i picked up my DOHC 3.5L today.
F*** yeahhhhhhh

look foward to the nice long install thread

look froward to the nice long install thread

Its just gonna be prettied up over the next 2 months.
Wont be going in for a good 6 months.
Its expensive to be unique these days :rant:

']Its just gonna be prettied up over the next 2 months.
Wont be going in for a good 6 months.
Its expensive to be unique these days :rant:

yes it is. id rather get the already turbo preped engine therefore i dont have to pull the engine out again to turbo prep it.

can u get a 3.5l dohc engine for a second gen.

yes it is. id rather get the already turbo preped engine therefore i dont have to pull the engine out again to turbo prep it.

can u get a 3.5l dohc engine for a second gen.

Sure can, have one in my garage.
Be prepared to be paying at least $2400 to get it to your door.

and IF you REALLY want to go turbo, just BUY the turbo engine!

']Sure can, have one in my garage.
Be prepared to be paying at least $2400 to get it to your door.

and IF you REALLY want to go turbo, just BUY the turbo engine!

i didnt know about the 3.5l dohc.

i can get a 6g72DE TT for 2400

did the engine you get include every thing
ecu
wirring loom
headers
alternator
aircon compressor
dizzy
etc.

i didnt know about the 3.5l dohc.

i can get a 6g72DE TT for 2400

did the engine you get include every thing
ecu
wirring loom
headers
alternator
aircon compressor
dizzy
etc.

DE????
Didnt come with ECU, Will be going fully independant
Wiring loom, dont think theres one, headers, came with one, will be getting extractors anyway, alternator - yeah, air con - think so, dizzy - well its coil pack, so no.

will the stock wirring loom fit the new engine other than the coil packs.

will the stock wirring loom fit the new engine other than the coil packs.

No idea what you mean, in terms of wiring its all custom

']No idea what you mean, in terms of wiring its all custom

injector connectors, oil switch, water temp sensor, tps, water temp guage etc.

injector connectors, oil switch, water temp sensor, tps, water temp guage etc.
Most of it was cut short so probably a bit of custom work there.

Easy to wire in?:bowrofl:

']Most of it was cut short so probably a bit of custom work there.

Easy to wire in?:bowrofl:

have fun atleast if i need any parts i just go to work and get the stuff of the shelf (apprentice auto elec does have some advantages)lol

have fun atleast if i need any parts i just go to work and get the stuff of the shelf (apprentice auto elec does have some advantages)lol

Parts? Just wire and solder man :D

']Parts? Just wire and solder man :D

and lots of heatshrink :) Easy to wire in? Sure soldering wires is EASY but getting it all right and not getting bored REAL quick? That's the tough part! Keeping your mind on the job at hand and not mixing up two black wires..

6G72DETT, they came out in the hatchback skylines yeah? instead of the B30A Vtecs? Naws dude, they had naaaaaaaaaaaaaaws..

And as for turbo prepping an engine and running it for 3 years, don't be daft boy. you'll probably sell it before then. I'm with the masses on this one, just get the friggin standard DOHC in there first and THEN turbo it, who knows, in a year you might have a kid to pay for and never get the money to finish the turbo deal, if you sort it NA first you can keep it that way without it running like a sack of ****.

Be real. Been through this before with the fiance's younger brother wanting to buy a r32 gts-t and fit an atmo exhaust to it until he's 21. Plain old bloody silly idea in BOTH your cases.. Don't get ahead of yourself!

Maybe a good idea is to sort your suspension and brakes FIRST before you get the engine and worry your little head with all this turbo gear, that way you'll soon find out if you really want to go through with the rest, no point in having a big powered car if you're mirrors touch the blacktop everytime you take a corner and if you can't get out of first gear because your brakes are worse than that of a k-mart bicycle. Don't worry, those fullysick girls that go crazy for blow-off valves will still be fullypreggo's in a few years when you've either gone TT or bust.

Unless i can get me an apprenticeship as an auto elec (hunting around..) Ill be leaving ECU shizzle to the pros.
Knowing my wiring when i turn the car on it'll probably make my windscreen washer bottle shoot water out.

is the only difference between a turbo preped engine and a normal engine is the commpression ratio?

iv got in the **** a couple of times coz iv connected the wrong wires but it hasnt distroyed anything thankfully.

its funny when people try to install after market stereos and they connect the dashlight wire to the earth wire. some people argue that the dashlights dont even go to radio and that we are trying to rip them off.:bowrofl:

is the only difference between a turbo preped engine and a normal engine is the commpression ratio?

iv got in the **** a couple of times coz iv connected the wrong wires but it hasnt distroyed anything thankfully.

its funny when people try to install after market stereos and they connect the dashlight wire to the earth wire. some people argue that the dashlights dont even go to radio and that we are trying to rip them off.:bowrofl:

Nah pretty sure the TT engine has stronger Pistons aswell (Someone correct me if im wrong)

']Nah pretty sure the TT engine has stronger Pistons aswell (Someone correct me if im wrong)

yeh i think they might but would it need stronger pistons in a turbo engine (as long as u dont have the turbos cranked to 20psi)

yeh i think they might but would it need stronger pistons in a turbo engine (as long as u dont have the turbos cranked to 20psi)
You will need stronger pistons in a FI car cause sooner or later the standard ones will melt...

does anyone no how much a 3000gt dohc engine would cost as ive got 3k to spend but ive ordered a front bar.

']You will need stronger pistons in a FI car cause sooner or later the standard ones will melt...

hey tufftr wat was the 3.5l out of.

hey tufftr wat was the 3.5l out of.
Mitsubishi Debonair.
DOHC engine about $1300 or so.
Extractors $1000
and well you got the ECU wiring figured out i guess...

']Mitsubishi Debonair.
DOHC engine about $1300 or so.
Extractors $1000
and well you got the ECU wiring figured out i guess...

wat the hell is a debonair

wat the hell is a debonair
.............http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Debonair

does it have 260 kw or hp

does it have 260 kw or hp

260Hp. which equates to about 198kw

that sounds better than the 3000gt engine as it has 206kw and is turbocharged.
that would fly if it was turbocharged.:badgrin:

that sounds better than the 3000gt engine as it has 206kw and is turbocharged.
that would fly if it was turbocharged.:badgrin:

One of the points which made me buy it :D

how hard was it to source one of those engines and does it still just bolt in.

how hard was it to source one of those engines and does it still just bolt in.
1) extreamly hard!
2) Yep!

how much it cost

How much did it cost
mmmmmmmmmmm dont you worry :)

remember too that sometimes the engines have extras inside like oil jets and the like because a turbo performance engine is aimed at being driven hard.

also ancillaries such as oil lines oil cooler, maybe a different plenum and a different ecu that wants to hear from different sensors and tunes it different because it's a turbo engine not atmo so the tuning is different also..

STOP TRYING TO CUT CORNERS!! Just buy a damn engine! Another thing to note is Tuff has done a lot of work on his engine himself so it'd be a fair thing to say he's a lot more advanced at the hands on than you are, not to say you're not capable, but in the realms of knowledge and experience, you're in little league still.

that sounds better than the 3000gt engine as it has 206kw and is turbocharged.
that would fly if it was turbocharged.:badgrin:

People forget the torque figures. Even if both engines produced the same power, the twin turbo will still easily outperform the NA version due to higher torque production.

Still 198kW is very nice. :P

People forget the torque figures. Even if both engines produced the same power, the twin turbo will still easily outperform the NA version due to higher torque production.

Still 198kW is very nice. :P

yur its ridiculous too. Like 450nm from 1500rpm. Also the 206kw was under the gentlemans agreement. If you look on wikipedia you'll see the american equivalents had 220kw and 239kw. Tough days between getting one of them or a galant vr4

I met a dude with a stunning gto, basically cat back exhaust and 12psi to run 13.5 and theyre by no means a light car.

yur its ridiculous too. Like 450nm from 1500rpm. Also the 206kw was under the gentlemans agreement. If you look on wikipedia you'll see the american equivalents had 220kw and 239kw. Tough days between getting one of them or a galant vr4

I met a dude with a stunning gto, basically cat back exhaust and 12psi to run 13.5 and theyre by no means a light car.

with a common nick-name like 'the whale', it's easy to figure why..

VR4 though.. in another league with the leather options and mivec.. plus 2 more doors.. Looking at either going a Legnum VR4, WRX hatch or GT/XT next year.. Personally I'd like the Legnum because it'll have leather and its TT but I have the other half to consider also.. I'd be stoked with any of the above though ;)

why go the legnum wagon and not the galant sedan?

why go the legnum wagon and not the galant sedan?

It's a common fact that wagons are the king and sedans loose out. plus the sedan probably couldn't take my big ported box for my sub :redface:

Black Legnum wagon with TE37's.. ohhhhhhhhh boy!

why go the legnum wagon and not the galant sedan?
Was never a big fan of the wagons myself...

ok ive been looking into this alot more.
i want some serious opinions.
the more i think about modding the magna into something quick the less i think it is worth it.

dohc conversion-$5000
manual conversion or get custom auto gearbox- $3000+
aftermarket ecu-$2000+
brake upgrade-$2000
suspension upgrade-$3000+
full bodykit-$1500+

its going to cost me around 20k to do the magna up and thats without touching the interior or sound system.

yet i can get a evo 7 for 30k and its already quick, looks great, is awd, better resale value(not that i would sell it) and i can get that quicker than i could ever get a magna.

ive always wanted a evo dont care what model.

so what are your opinions

get an evo, then again you could slowly do the magna up, but if you have the cash, get an evo.

so what are your opinions

theres an obvious answer!

but hang on, didnt you say before you're not legally allowed a turbo car? ie evo? if i was you, i might either hang on to the current car (assuming it doesnt need repairs or anything, and is reliable), or trade up to a 3rd gen (alot more power, gives you a bridge between weak and powerful, so you can get used to it)... then in a few years, trade the 3rd gen up for an evo or something.

i think a trade up to a 3rd gen might be a go for now, atleast get used to 155-163kw, before going up to 200kw. plus all the extra refinements the 3rd gens have.

theres an obvious answer!

but hang on, didnt you say before you're not legally allowed a turbo car? ie evo? if i was you, i might either hang on to the current car (assuming it doesnt need repairs or anything, and is reliable), or trade up to a 3rd gen (alot more power, gives you a bridge between weak and powerful, so you can get used to it)... then in a few years, trade the 3rd gen up for an evo or something.

i think a trade up to a 3rd gen might be a go for now, atleast get used to 155-163kw, before going up to 200kw. plus all the extra refinements the 3rd gens have.

i cant legally own a turbo but it would take me awhile to save the money.

the ts ive got runs exelent so i wouldnt trade it for a 3rd gen.

i cant legally own a turbo but it would take me awhile to save the money.

the ts ive got runs exelent so i wouldnt trade it for a 3rd gen.

in that case, keep the 2nd gen, and work out what you want in 3yrs or whatever (considering this may include moving out etc)


*sigh* close thread, engine transplant aint happening

i reckon you come to the conclusion its just a car and go out and live and waste your money having a mad one.

I have spouts of spending money on my car but at the end of the day its nothing compared to mad times. I spend like 3k$ here and there (over like 2yrs) but i make sure im still socializing, playing sport getting maggot being rowdy blah.

Its something to have a nice car but at your age you cant really and its not worth sacrifices you would have to make to own one. Its just a piece of metal with an engine and you can have a nice one when your old and responsible.

ps its been a while, my car will be getting some more treatment soon. Pretty pumped for it.

i reckon you come to the conclusion its just a car and go out and live and waste your money having a mad one.

I have spouts of spending money on my car but at the end of the day its nothing compared to mad times. I spend like 3k$ here and there (over like 2yrs) but i make sure im still socializing, playing sport getting maggot being rowdy blah.

Its something to have a nice car but at your age you cant really and its not worth sacrifices you would have to make to own one. Its just a piece of metal with an engine and you can have a nice one when your old and responsible.

ps its been a while, my car will be getting some more treatment soon. Pretty pumped for it.

Mmmmmmm let us in on the secret :d

']Mmmmmmm let us in on the secret :d

He's getting it a manicure.....

It's the realisation that everyone comes to eventually, when you first bring it home it's all wow and shibang but after a while you realise that you have an old banger and for the cash you could jump into something a tad nicer to start off with.. unless you were either that DAMNED determined to make yourself into a 'pro' at a car that no-one really cares about apart from what is now a few thousand crazy fools.. All i can say is... evo evo evo evo evo legnum evo evo evo..

the more i think about modding the magna into something quick the less i think it is worth it.



gee, didnt expect that, only took 11 pages. you gotta do LOTS of homework and thinking.

gee, didnt expect that, only took 11 pages. you gotta do LOTS of homework and thinking.
Dw took me 3 years to figure it out. The more i think about it, the more i realize once my 3.5L is in i could of got a 97 WRX. or something of similar performance.
Sucks to be teh uniquez

yeh but you arent all talk like weve seen so many times before, you possibly have the most unique 2nd gen ever

yeh but you arent all talk like weve seen so many times before, you possibly have the most unique 2nd gen ever

But what kudos do you really get for it? Come on now, who modifies their car PURELY for their own benefit. Everyone wants some kudos but with these cars you get none no matter what you do.

But what kudos do you really get for it? Come on now, who modifies their car PURELY for their own benefit. Everyone wants some kudos but with these cars you get none no matter what you do.
I try anyway lol

']I try anyway lol

Well good on you anyway, you give all us 'normal people' something to day dream of if we were ever given the chance at the bank account to go mad on the mag.

']Dw took me 3 years to figure it out. The more i think about it, the more i realize once my 3.5L is in i could of got a 97 WRX. or something of similar performance.
Sucks to be teh uniquez

wrx's are slow. Handle ok but deadset i chop them straight line. Dude its fun having the wtf factor. The sound and the performance of the DOHC coming from an older magna is nuts.

wrx's are slow. Handle ok but deadset i chop them straight line. Dude its fun having the wtf factor. The sound and the performance of the DOHC coming from an older magna is nuts.

I think half the point is also future performance and ease of modification. You can't exactly just bolt on a bigger turbo and a FMIC, bigger fuel pump and tune to an atmo engine.

Plus AWD and better brakes.. makes things a lot less even in the twisties no?