Hey guys, was having a bit of a squize through carsales and noticed this apparent TE Magna which caught my eye because of the TJ rear. But so it appears theres a little more to it. It's certainly listed as a TE, and has a TE front, but it has a TJ rear end with TJ Sports spoiler, it has the Sports white dials and its got a tippy auto tranny, which correct me if I'm wrong, didn't exist on the TE. Its a 3L V6 though according to the listing.

So my question is, what is it? Is it a TE with a rear, semi interior and tranny conversion? or is it actually a TJ sports thats been in a front end and been repaired on the dodge and is now registered as a TE? I'm confused, anyone care to shed some light here for me?

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/MITSUBISHI/MAGNA/details.aspx?Cr=11&State=Victoria&R=1701122&state_id=82&__No=20&__N=4294964597%2082%20443%20508%204294964374%20834 %20285%20257&silo=1003&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_I mageCount_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_LastModifiedDate_Dat eTime%7C1&Make=MITSUBISHI&trecs=48&seot=0&PriceMax=7500&__sid=1155C2EDE5A0&Model=MAGNA&__Nne=20

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well it's not a TE....

it looks like it is a TJ Sports but some one has put a TE/F bonnet, bumper and grill

As the badging on the front guard is a 3.5ltr badge

and the triptronic is a five speed model

maybe it was a front smash so it was cheaper to fit a earlier model front end...

and the dash is two tone I belive this was first on the TJ

So does that mean for $6.5k if the car has been repaired properly (and presumably wasn't in that bad an accident), its a bargain? All I would need to do then is change the bonnet, grille and front bar over and it'd be a TJ all round! So what do we think then, a 01 or 02 model or something?

Also missing foglights that were standard on the sports.

Also missing foglights that were standard on the sports.
Yeah noticed that too. So to bring that back to a TJ Sports front end, it would need what, the bonnet, front bar, foggies, parras, and grille? Whats that likely to set me back sprayed and fitted? would it be over a grand to have that done?

Yeah noticed that too. So to bring that back to a TJ Sports front end, it would need what, the bonnet, front bar, foggies, parras, and grille? Whats that likely to set me back sprayed and fitted? would it be over a grand to have that done?


if you sell the front, it will probabaly cost you about 800ish painted.

btw dude, u said it was a 3.0l....correct me if i am wrong, but last time i checked, the sports werer 3.5's?

or are u just saying its listed as a 3.0l as the person has no clue. lol

dont buy it

if it was smashed that bad it wont be the same (in my opinion) generally if a car has been smashed like that its handling and general dynamics arent the same

This car screams out 'dodgy dodgy dodgy' to me.

Amongst all the thing that have already been pointed out, a few more points to consider :

TJ Sports were neve available in gold/kashmir metallic ever! Pewter silver/light grey was the only other light colour apart from enamel (Mawson) white.

The gear lever cover beside the gearstick (where it says P-R-N-D+/-) should be chrome if it's a 5-speed auto, but this one is black, as used in the 4-speed TJ/TL tiptronics.

If, by some freak of nature, Mitsubishi DID actually build a kashmir TJ Sports, check to see if it has the Sports/VRX exhaust with 1 large (pointing-down) outlet, instead of the standard twin-outlet muffler as used in other Magnas.

The seat trims, two-tone interior colour scheme and dash/dials are TJ Sport, and it evn has the leather-bound steering wheel.....the indicator stalk looks like it's got the fog light switch (hard to tell) but as somebody already mentioned, it's lacking the fog lights.

This car's got chrome trimming around the side windows, which TJ Magnas did not have (only Veradas did). It's also got black side mouldings, which were not available on TJ Sports (the mouldings should be colour coded)

It's got mudflaps, which were not standard on TJ Sports (although some owners did fit this)
I'd avoid this car like the plague

if you sell the front, it will probabaly cost you about 800ish painted.

btw dude, u said it was a 3.0l....correct me if i am wrong, but last time i checked, the sports werer 3.5's?

or are u just saying its listed as a 3.0l as the person has no clue. lol
Well the conversion back price aint too bad then. Thats a Sports TJ series 2 for $7500 odd with fairly low k's too I guess.

I said 3L because thats what it was listed as, didn't think it was though, as I'm 100% sure the tippy was 3.5L only.


dont buy it

if it was smashed that bad it wont be the same (in my opinion) generally if a car has been smashed like that its handling and general dynamics arent the same
My concern ain't that, cause its quite possible there was no mechanical damage in the nose to tail it was probably in, and just the panels were replaced....but, what worries me is if they couldn't afford to repair the car with the correct parts, whats to say they haven't skimped in other areas, like servicing? I'm a bit fishy about this one haha

don't TJ Sports have dual air bags?

this car seems dodgy

The gear lever cover beside the gearstick (where it says P-R-N-D+/-) should be chrome if it's a 5-speed auto, but this one is black, as used in the 4-speed TJ/TL tiptronics.

Not true. Ive seen TJ sports' with black surronds.

Not true. Ive seen TJ sports' with black surronds.

are all sports' 5 speeds?

are all sports' 5 speeds?

Everything except TF/TH. They are 4spd Auto.

looks like a TJ sports with a TE/F front to me..

if it was the other way around, they have gone through alot of trouble to make it look like a TJ sports (even the interior top half is black!), but some how managed to forget teh TJ front lol

either way, good buy. especially if it is a 3.5

Doesnt have Climate Control either... It is a look alike, nothing else.

isnt climate control series 2

i know u are the sports expert lol

but am i wrong?.. i dunno :redface:


also, just noticed, it has a traction control button..

Tell you much, the VIN would

Tell you much, the VIN would
where's the fun in that?!

Oddly it is also listed with a 4-spd auto, yet from the photos (as others have mentioned) it shows 5-spd on the dash.

Mitsubishi must have released a special trim level, the Magna Enigma lol

isnt climate control series 2

i know u are the sports expert lol



Errrm... Youve got me there... I know mine has it... lol

I still stand by look alike, because who in there right mind would buy a TJ Sports, downgrade the front to a TE, and then sell it off as a TE Altera?

hmm trying to work out what that is is impossible, just call them up and ask for the vin!
personally wouldnt touch it with so many discrepancies

Errrm... Youve got me there... I know mine has it... lol

I still stand by look alike, because who in there right mind would buy a TJ Sports, downgrade the front to a TE, and then sell it off as a TE Altera?

you would

its your old kashmir car isnt it!!

you've smashed your sports, and joined all the parts to make this!!

HA, i caught you out artichoke

fess up

I still stand by look alike, because who in there right mind would buy a TJ Sports, downgrade the front to a TE, and then sell it off as a TE Altera?
I dunno an idiot maybe?

Changing the tranny is a lot of effort to go to to make a look alike ain't it? Not like its done a lot of k's, surely the originally tranny if it had a 4 speed wouldn't have died yet!

I'm stumped by this car.

vin - will straightaway tell u engine number, therefore engine size. quick call to mitsu should give you model, and year.

if it turns out to be a TE altera, walk away... if it turns out to be a TF-TH sports, walk away... if it turns out to be a TJ sports, run away... if it turns out to be a chicken, amaze friends by saying you have a chicken in the shape of a strange TE altera/TJ sports hybrid, and make millions.

Changing the tranny is a lot of effort to go to to make a look alike ain't it? Not like its done a lot of k's, surely the originally tranny if it had a 4 speed wouldn't have died yet!



For all we know the old tranny might have failed, and he couldnt get a hold of another 4 speed one, so he upgrade?... theres any number of reasons for it being there.

Did Mitsu make a 4 speed tiptronic?

Did Mitsu make a 4 speed tiptronic?

yes, yes they did

yes, yes they did

So that could very well just be the 4 speed tipper in there, and not a 5 speed as has been suggested?

series 1 TJ sports thats had front end damage. probably a 2001 model.

little strange it only has 1 air bag.
but it has TCL button... and everything else looks the same and the rims are the series 1 sports rims...

99% of the general public would not go to the effort to create a fake or look a like. there is always more to the story.

Same as when I brought my Ralliart, first thing I did was looked at the date on the VIN and saw it was june 01 thought wtf ralliarts are 02... but it had a ralliart VIN, called up mitsu, 2hrs later i found out it was the first complete Red Manual Ralliart Magna and was 1 of a batch of 5 made at that time....

I'd say they have been in a smash repairer either wanted to make money on buying cheap ****ty front end parts instead of the popular and expensive TJ shape. and foglights are good for about 800 from mitsu.

Take it for a drive, get racq to look at it. do whatever you personally think.

So that could very well just be the 4 speed tipper in there, and not a 5 speed as has been suggested?

eeeyep, i thought it might be a TF sports, but dials are TJ sports... aircon is pre-TJ, 3.5L badges, TJ rear, TJ sports has chrome tippy cover

its FRANKENMAGNA!!!

series 1 TJ sports thats had front end damage. probably a 2001 model.

little strange it only has 1 air bag.
but it has TCL button... and everything else looks the same and the rims are the series 1 sports rims...

99% of the general public would not go to the effort to create a fake or look a like. there is always more to the story.

Same as when I brought my Ralliart, first thing I did was looked at the date on the VIN and saw it was june 01 thought wtf ralliarts are 02... but it had a ralliart VIN, called up mitsu, 2hrs later i found out it was the first complete Red Manual Ralliart Magna and was 1 of a batch of 5 made at that time....

I'd say they have been in a smash repairer either wanted to make money on buying cheap ****ty front end parts instead of the popular and expensive TJ shape. and foglights are good for about 800 from mitsu.

Take it for a drive, get racq to look at it. do whatever you personally think.


Just to clear things up - Tj Sports series 1 didnt have climate control and it only had a single airbag - kthnxbai

eeeyep, i thought it might be a TF sports, but dials are TJ sports... aircon is pre-TJ, 3.5L badges, TJ rear, TJ sports has chrome tippy cover

its FRANKENMAGNA!!!

The dials are a 5 min job to swap over... and the aircon setup only changed in the MY02 judging by other cars on carsales.

mmk does seem like a S1 TJ sports then, just strange to sell it as a 96 Altera...
could possibly be from a deceased person, or has been left with someone to sell, and i doubt the person selling it has any idea of the history of it... obviously wasnt insured (repairs wouldve been done at cost), so hmmm

up to you, but i'd still stay away

unless of course it was a chicken in the shape of a magna...

and as far as the door trim colours go, that is standard tj sports series 1 trims, and the seats are the proper tj sports seats. only thing i cant clarify is the auto box, ive got a manual so cant comment

one thing i can point out though, the colour coding on the side door bumper thing looks like absolute ****. pretty sure they are coded better than that. and my magna doesnt have tcl...is that traction control??

one thing i can point out though, the colour coding on the side door bumper thing looks like absolute ****. pretty sure they are coded better than that. and my magna doesnt have tcl...is that traction control??

Yeah, looks like hes spray painted the bottom one and left the top strip... all sports were full color coded.

Yeah TCL is traction control.

auto;s had tcl, manuals don't... id say def series 1 tj sports... who ever owns it just doesn't know the diff....

TJ sports has chrome tippy cover
No they didnt!

As stated, it's got TJ Sports series 1 interior, TJ Sports mag, TJ Sports instrument cluster etc, and I'm pretty sure the passenger bag was just a model option on the Series 1 Sports.

Did sports have TCL? I thought that was VRX and Veradas only?

Did sports have TCL? I thought that was VRX and Veradas only?
Yes they had TCL, at least my series 2 does.


RE VRX vs Sports
Technically the VRX is just an options pack on a TJ Sports, both the VRX and Sports share the same VIN codes, with the VRX just having an additional options code - D05 off the top of my head.

Lugo, look at all the commotion you have caused lol

The car is in Broadmeadows, i wouldn't be surprised if it was stolen, rebirthed, then used in a bank job. Another thing, the kms are extremely low for a 1996 model, but then again thats not that uncommon to see a car with such low kms.

Get the VIN of the seller and call up Mitsubishi, its only way to really find out.


EDIT: I know a man that bought a used car, and ten years later, BAM! Herpes

Lugo, look at all the commotion you have caused lol

The car is in Broadmeadows, i wouldn't be surprised if it was stolen, rebirthed, then used in a bank job. Another thing, the kms are extremely low for a 1996 model, but then again thats not that uncommon to see a car with such low kms.

Get the VIN of the seller and call up Mitsubishi, its only way to really find out.

or do a REVS check

Lugo, look at all the commotion you have caused lol

The car is in Broadmeadows, i wouldn't be surprised if it was stolen, rebirthed, then used in a bank job. Another thing, the kms are extremely low for a 1996 model, but then again thats not that uncommon to see a car with such low kms.

Get the VIN of the seller and call up Mitsubishi, its only way to really find out.
To be honest i wouldn't be surprised if this car has been rebirthed with a '96 Altera vin/engine. First thing that's obvious is that the front end of the sports was in an accident. Perhaps it was a write off, so someones whacked the altera stuff in there and "optioned" it up to sports spec.

Seems strange to advertise it as an altera when it clearly has sports badges on the boot.
Tj sports series 1 had a 5 spd tiptronic, climate control wasnt standard and neither was dual airbags.

The non-colour coded side strip has me stumped, unless there was also side panel damage.

im thinkin cut n shut.

Maybe it is an TE Altera, with a TJ boot on it, everyone with a TE-Th wants to do that mod. Maybe the interior picture is a mistake, as in its from a different car. Carsales.com often make that mistake.

Although maybe its MagnaEvox's (or whatever his name was) old car.

Someone should call the number on there, and get some info.

it's a cut-n-shut. don't buy it. it'll be listed as TE because the front is TE, but they've grafted a TJ to it.

so I would say it's a TE that's been rear-ended, and a TJ that's had a head on.

run, run away!

.wook

I'd probably tip off the cops on this -- seems like the chop job for sure. My guess it has a TE front and a TJ rear (TJ must have been a repairable writeoff) and a 3.5 engine replacement -- TJ writeoff maybe $2k, egnine $800 and the rest another $k and then cut together. Coming from the suburb it's coming from it's hell dodgy -- look at the K's. I'd ask for the service history -- that'll be interesting to see...

OK, so lets sort this out:

- It has EVERYTHING from a series 1 TJ Sports. (Rear/Interior/Cluster/TCL/Tippy/etc)

- It has TE/TF Bonnet/Lights/Grille/Bumper.

Chances are its a TJ that was smashed and TE bits were tacked onto the front.

Dont look too hard into things people.

I'd probably tip off the cops on this -- seems like the chop job for sure. My guess it has a TE front and a TJ rear (TJ must have been a repairable writeoff) and a 3.5 engine replacement -- TJ writeoff maybe $2k, egnine $800 and the rest another $k and then cut together. Coming from the suburb it's coming from it's hell dodgy -- look at the K's. I'd ask for the service history -- that'll be interesting to see...
It's not illegal if they've bought both donar cars, i just wouldn't be caught dead driving it on the off chance the repairs were dodgy, but you're suppose to get it all checked out first if it was a write off.

Then again claiming it's an Altera they may be using that so they don't have to get it checked (if the altera donar wasn't declared a write off), in which case i'm not sure if that's illegal, but it's damn dodgy!


OK, so lets sort this out:

- It has EVERYTHING from a series 1 TJ Sports. (Rear/Interior/Cluster/TCL/Tippy/etc)

- It has TE/TF Bonnet/Lights/Grille/Bumper.

Chances are its a TJ that was smashed and TE bits were tacked onto the front.

Dont look too hard into things people.
Yes this is obvious, but why advertise it as a '96 TE Altera if it's practicly a 2000+ tj sports?

Lugo, look at all the commotion you have caused lol
I know aye...hahahaha....all I wanted to know was what car it is and look at this 5 pages later! :bowrofl:


The car is in Broadmeadows, i wouldn't be surprised if it was stolen, rebirthed, then used in a bank job. Another thing, the kms are extremely low for a 1996 model, but then again thats not that uncommon to see a car with such low kms.
Haha Omar said that too, except for the bank bit. Tis a bit of a sus car.


Maybe it is an TE Altera, with a TJ boot on it, everyone with a TE-Th wants to do that mod. Maybe the interior picture is a mistake, as in its from a different car. Carsales.com often make that mistake.
Thats very optimistic of you....what are the odds of the interior picture being muddled up.

Ya'know what, I think I might just pretend I never even saw this car and continue on my merry way lol

so if its a TJ where is the passanger airbag??

it's a TE!

C'mon how many members here have bits that are non standard, i have a verada grille verada interior, different this different that, does that mean my car was smashed and 2 welded together?

i know for a fact that i can get a complete sports interior for $300, and other bits cheap so how many members have done the bootlid conversion?

i doubt that the tippy is a functional 5spd, its easy to change the instrument cluster...

maybe this car is the sister car to the one at the auctions that is TJ front (or was it TL) and TE-TH rear!?!

so if its a TJ where is the passanger airbag??
TJ Series 1 sports apparently didn't even have the option for passenger airbag....



i doubt that the tippy is a functional 5spd, its easy to change the instrument cluster...
That would beg the question, are the k's listed the ones on the cluster or the actual engines k's? tricky

also, just noticed, it has a traction control button..

Where is the traction control button, i cant find it anywhere. But then again, i dont know where they usually are.

Where is the traction control button, i cant find it anywhere. But then again, i dont know where they usually are.
Just above the ignition.

Just above the ignition.

Thats the dimmer switch and the cruise control main power switch isnt it. My car is the same.

Thats the dimmer switch and the cruise control main power switch isnt it. My car is the same.
Cruise is the third stalk on the wheel isn't it? Pretty sure that button above the ignition says "TCL" on it.

Cruise is the third stalk on the wheel isn't it? Pretty sure that button above the ignition says "TCL" on it.

Mine has the stalk where you set it, but you have to press the button up top to initially turn it on. Its exactly the same as in that car. You can just see it in this old picture of my car.

Cruise is the third stalk on the wheel isn't it? Pretty sure that button above the ignition says "TCL" on it.
Correct.
It's NOT a TE, it's a TJ sports series 1 that has had TE stuff added to the front of it. This car is mega dodgy, why? They are selling it as a TE when it's clearly not, why would they do that?
Obvious answer is that the TJ was written off and the TE wasn't, so they sell the TJ as the TE, no need to get it re-engineered, nothing will come up in the revs check because the TE/engine attached to it are fine. Very dodgy indeed.

Mine has the stalk where you set it, but you have to press the button up top to initially turn it on. Its exactly the same as in that car.
I always figured the on/off button was the one on the end of the stalk to turn cruise on and off, thats how it is in the camry, and the 3rd gen cruise stalks look identical when i've looked at it. Maybe your cruise setup is different to a TJ?

On the car itself I'm gonna agree with M4DDOG, and I like I said, gonna leave it the hell alone.

Edit: TJ VRX wheel backs up my claim with your photo above:
http://images.carsguide.news.com.au/NIMG01474/81536//large/lg_81536_7.jpg

Look at the cruise stalk, on the earlier 3rd gens obviously there was a separate button, but on the newer ones the button is part of the stalk to activate cruise.

I always figured the on/off button was the one on the end of the stalk to turn cruise on and off, thats how it is in the camry, and the 3rd gen cruise stalks look identical when i've looked at it. Maybe your cruise setup is different to a TJ?

On the car itself I'm gonna agree with M4DDOG, and I like I said, gonna leave it the hell alone.

On my car the cruise on/off is a button on the end of the stalk, and the button on the right of the instrument cluster is the traction control on/off.

I always figured the on/off button was the one on the end of the stalk to turn cruise on and off, thats how it is in the camry, and the 3rd gen cruise stalks look identical when i've looked at it. Maybe your cruise setup is different to a TJ?

On the car itself I'm gonna agree with M4DDOG, and I like I said, gonna leave it the hell alone.


Yeh must be different, my lil cruise stalk thing, is the same as the one in that photo, it doesnt have a button on the end of anywhere. But yeah, that button does look like it says TCL. Im gunna look into that, coz i have never noticed that the TJ cruise was different, ill look when i go to into work soon.

M4DDOG is spot on.

TJ with TE front and engine. This would only be done by someone resurrecting the car for making fast money. My guess the TJ was in a serious font end crash. Very clever though, and some sucker will buy it in the end. sad. VIN will show rebirthed details of the TE and not the TJ, this is why the seller has an obligation to market it this way. The fact that its history is not documented by the seller suggests "dodgy" brothers are at it again.

Anyone notice the suspect neighborhood the car is parked in? :confused:

Im gunna look into that, coz i have never noticed that the TJ cruise was different, ill look when i go to into work soon.
Do you work at mitsu? You can tell your workmates all about this 3rd gen now ahah, its a cross breed!

Edit: Can we run a check online somewhere on the Vehicle ID?

OK LETS SETTLE THIS Haha,

I just called the guy selling it, and he says, oh we got the car like that a few months ago. He said he put the spoiler on it. He said it was a 96 model, and that it was 4sp, he said he got the car with the dash, in it and doesnt know why it says 5sp on the dash. He pretty much had no idea, it was like he was trying to hide something.

We can call it the weird-ass TE :P

OK LETS SETTLE THIS Haha,

I just called the guy selling it, and he says, oh we got the car like that a few months ago. He said he put the spoiler on it. He said it was a 96 model, and that it was 4sp, he said he got the car with the dash, in it and doesnt know why it says 5sp on the dash. He pretty much had no idea, it was like he was trying to hide something.
Hmm weird as.....so its a TJ sports with a TE front but its a 96 and didn't come with the spoiler so its possible its a TE with TJ Wheels, TJ rear, TJ Dash, TJ Seats, TJ trims and TJ Cruise. We don't know what engine it has and its a 4sp Tippy even though that didn't exist until the TJ? This is so screwed up hahaa....and if the owner can't answer our questions no body has any hope.

:rofleek:

Hmm weird as.....so its a TJ sports with a TE front but its a 96 and didn't come with the spoiler so its possible its a TE with TJ Wheels, TJ rear, TJ Dash, TJ Seats, TJ trims and TJ Cruise. We don't know what engine it has and its a 4sp Tippy even though that didn't exist until the TJ? This is so screwed up hahaa....and if the owner can't answer our questions no body has any hope.

my car is a TF with 4sp Tippy. lol

my car is a TF with 4sp Tippy.
Really? So Tippy was introduced as a 4sp in the TF Sports? I should have realised it wasn't a TJ first anyway because I was looking at a TH Sports with a 4sp Tippy a while ago.

That just makes it worse. Now it might have a TF or TH tranny! God damn :bowrofl:

Other things to point out that prove its not a TE Altera is the air bag (didn't exist on TE Altera), cd player (again didn't exist on TE altera), and the TE altera had chrome door handles, which quite clearly, this doesn't.

Really? So Tippy was introduced as a 4sp in the TF Sports? I should have realised it wasn't a TJ first anyway because I was looking at a TH Sports with a 4sp Tippy a while ago.

That just makes it worse. Now it might have a TF or TH tranny! God damn :bowrofl:

Yeps, this car is doing everyones heads in. Haha, someone should go and look at it. I would, but im too far away.

Yeps, this car is doing everyones heads in. Haha, someone should go and look at it. I would, but im too far away.
I might haha, just for the fun of it! Bit worried about actually moving it though haha lol

Edit: I just worked out what it is! Its a Mitsubishi Magna TEFHJ Altera Sports!

Another idea, call him back up and ask him to read out to you whats on the compliance plate bahahahaa...I want to know what that says it is...might be a TL :bowrofl:

OK LETS SETTLE THIS Haha,

I just called the guy selling it, and he says, oh we got the car like that a few months ago. He said he put the spoiler on it. He said it was a 96 model,

:think: weird cause if its a TE wheres the 3rd brake light? unless he's changed the parcel shelf when he did the spoiler. cause it wouldve been missing it.

but it does have the SRS sticker on the bottom right like on the TEs

...might be a TL :bowrofl:

We can only hope :bowrofl:

but it does have the SRS sticker on the bottom right like on the TEs
But according to my sources the TE Altera didn't even have the option of SRS Airbags. You must be thinking TF, which is where they went. Pretty sure only the KE had an airbag in that range.

But according to my sources the TE Altera didn't even have the option of SRS Airbags. You must be thinking TF, which is where they went. Pretty sure only the KE had an airbag in that range.

i had a TE exec with drivers air bag. it even had ABS. they were optional across the range then.

i had a TE exec with drivers air bag. it even had ABS. they were optional across the range then.
Maybe my sources are screwed then. According to them Altera LS had Drivers SRS standard. 96 TE Exec had neither ABS or Drivers and 97 TE had optional ABS. Must be missing something.

TE Advance had ABS and Drivers standard, why does the Advance have some higher spec's and some lower spec's than a Altera, I'm confused about that too now!

I think I might try this...

take these two cars and tack them together

sell it for $10k

yay!

I think I might try this...

take these two cars and tack them together

sell it for $10k

yay!
Go for it man, sell it as a TW :bowrofl:

Just a thought, wouldnt the tags on the car tell you which model it is?? or should be

after all this, it'll end up being a corolla.. :doubt:

Just a thought, wouldnt the tags on the car tell you which model it is?? or should be
what are these "tags" you talk of?

the VIN is the only way to tell exactly what a car is, but that's only if the car has stayed in one piece.

The compliance plate on the firewall that tell you build date month/year, paint code, trim, body and option codes should tell you what it was when it rolled out of the factory. Unless it was a change over model the month and year should be an indication.

the VIN is the only way to tell exactly what a car is, but that's only if the car has stayed in one piece.
If in fact its only TE panels that have been put on it, the vin should call it a TJ then right and it should have a 3.5L under the bonnet and should be a 5 speed? If its just the panels thats not so bad, if its actually chopped and welded though, which would make more sense considering its listed and presumably registered as a TE, then its bad...right?

If in fact its only TE panels that have been put on it, the vin should call it a TJ then right and it should have a 3.5L under the bonnet and should be a 5 speed? If its just the panels thats not so bad, if its actually chopped and welded though, which would make more sense considering its listed and presumably registered as a TE, then its bad...right?
Tell us the VIN and engine codes. We should be able to get a rough idea.

Tell us the VIN and engine codes. We should be able to get a rough idea.

yeah someone call and ask, say its for a REVS check ;)

hahaha i worked in that area for a long time, could be anything, i had a problem with abs light staying on a camry (then new) i put it on a hoist had a look front half of car was abs, the back half wasnt, closer inspection the car had been cut in the middle behind drivers seat right in half lol no warranty on this one

if anyone buys it they need a slap!!

dead give aways

mix and match parts
stuff color coded that shouldnt be
paint looks to new, no dents etc etc

**** imagine if i sold my tf lol

parts from ke, kj, tj, tf, kit, all painted green lol