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huhjared
30-10-2007, 08:15 PM
hey anyone out there knows where i can get a top up for my transmission fluid... drove the car for like 30 min and checked the transmission fluid level and its at the slightly below the LOW of the hot range... i presume is too low... so looking at buying a top up at any servo now to top it up... any recommendations? like caltex shell BP or??

Mrmacomouto
30-10-2007, 08:18 PM
Check your owners manual? usually in the end of the book.

steve95
30-10-2007, 09:11 PM
hey anyone out there knows where i can get a top up for my transmission fluid.

Nothin else but Mitshi SPIII fluid, You can grab 1lt from any Mishi service centre. Remember Mitsi tranny is very sensitive to tranny fluid and Mitshi SPIII is an obvious choice.

[TUFFTR]
30-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Nothin else but Mitshi SPIII fluid, You can grab 1lt from any Mishi service centre. Remember Mitsi tranny is very sensitive to tranny fluid and Mitshi SPIII is an obvious choice.

So your saying any aftermarket oil, which probably comes out of the same tub at the factory is not safe to use? pf

steve95
30-10-2007, 09:17 PM
i presume is too low... so looking at buying a top up at any servo now to top it up... any recommendations? like caltex shell BP or??

Forgot to mention - as long as the level remains between cold and hot mark, do not bother to top up. Tranny experts say - a little underfilling is way better than overfilling as overfilling can easily kill tranny when driven for hrs and fuild is hot.

huhjared
30-10-2007, 09:19 PM
ok one simple question how should be check the level of the transmission fluid?
if its cold does it mean that as long its in between the 2 cold points its good?? or do i have to check it only when its hot... the thing is that the term hot is very ~~~~...

huhjared
30-10-2007, 09:22 PM
Forgot to mention - as long as the level remains between cold and hot mark, do not bother to top up. Tranny experts say - a little underfilling is way better than overfilling as overfilling can easily kill tranny when driven for hrs and fuild is hot.

hi steve... cause from the manual, it says warm it up and it should be between the 2 hot spots
l HOT l
x
mine is at the X point or maybe even lower but its comfrim higher than the highest pt of the cold

steve95
30-10-2007, 09:33 PM
ok one simple question how should be check the level of the transmission fluid?
if its cold does it mean that as long its in between the 2 cold points its good?? or do i have to check it only when its hot... the thing is that the term hot is very ~~~~...

Drive it for 10/12 mins. If you find any fuild mark in the hot region/scale, then the level is ok, but do not overfill so that after 10/12 mins it reaches the top end of hot region/scale.

I have gone through the same process as you are atm. I had the tranny servicing from Ultratune and found the fuild level just at the top of cold region. Took it to Mishi Service centre and the guy said the level was fine. I then had a tranny flush from Mitshi service centre and now the fuild level stays at the low end of hot region after 10 mins drive.

huhjared
30-10-2007, 09:38 PM
']So your saying any aftermarket oil, which probably comes out of the same tub at the factory is not safe to use? pf

Autran MM-SP 3
Autran MM-SP 3 is especially designed for use in most Mitsubishi front wheel drive automatic transmissions. These transmissions have unique requirements which cannot be satisfied with any other transmission fluid.

Autran MM- SP 3 is a direct replacement for Autran MM-SP 2 and can be used as a top-up fluid for transmissions originally filled with Autran MM-SP 2.

huhjared
30-10-2007, 09:39 PM
Drive it for 10/12 mins. If you find any fuild mark in the hot region/scale, then the level is ok, but do not overfill so that after 10/12 mins it reaches the top end of hot region/scale.

I have gone through the same process as you are atm. I had the tranny servicing from Ultratune and found the fuild level just at the top of cold region. Took it to Mishi Service centre and the guy said the level was fine. I then had a tranny flush from Mitshi service centre and now the fuild level stays at the low end of hot region after 10 mins drive.

hm.... then do u think i should buy a 1l bottle tom to top it up or should i just leave it...

steve95
30-10-2007, 09:43 PM
hm.... then do u think i should buy a 1l bottle tom to top it up or should i just leave it...

For peace of mind, get a 1lt bottle and top up with 200ml at each step. From my experience and your x mark, about 400ml should do the job for You.

andrewd
30-10-2007, 09:45 PM
you wont find the correct fluid at any servo, you'll have to wait till tomorrow when autobarn etc... open and go there or to mitsu

i286
31-10-2007, 05:09 AM
Autran MM-SP 3 is especially designed for use in most Mitsubishi front wheel drive automatic transmissions. These transmissions have unique requirements which cannot be satisfied with any other transmission fluid.



:nuts: Using Amsoil ATF fluid since July '06.

Poita
31-10-2007, 06:04 AM
']So your saying any aftermarket oil, which probably comes out of the same tub at the factory is not safe to use? pf

It does NOT come from the same tub and I am speaking from experience. Oils are not just a simple thing, they are quite involved when you start looking behind the scenes. Mitsi transmissions are ultra sensitive to the type of oil. I had huge problems from 2 different mechanics who used 2 different standard oils... I could barely get it into 2nd and its was really really hard to change when cold.
Castrol VMX I think its is called works along with a very small group of other oils. So safer just to go with the Mitsi oil they supply as you are guaranteed it will work and not go through the 6 months of pain I had to while trying to figure out what the stupid problem was.
The new Pajero transmissions are so fussy that they basically will not work without using the factory oil.


Using Amsoil ATF fluid since July '06.
You obviously got lucky 1st time and picked one of the few that work, so don't assume everything else will.

i286
31-10-2007, 06:18 AM
Nothing to do with luck. It was chosen after lengthy research.

huhjared
31-10-2007, 07:51 AM
Nothing to do with luck. It was chosen after lengthy research.

went to all the servos around my place last night... all said that they didnt have the one for mitsubishi... its SPECIAL... soon after the guy at BP actually show me the chart saying that... and finally it shows one thing all diamond care products are made by BP cause thats what it says in the booklet and the bottle for the transmission fluid is exactly the same...

[TUFFTR]
31-10-2007, 04:41 PM
went to all the servos around my place last night... all said that they didnt have the one for mitsubishi... its SPECIAL... soon after the guy at BP actually show me the chart saying that... and finally it shows one thing all diamond care products are made by BP cause thats what it says in the booklet and the bottle for the transmission fluid is exactly the same...

Did you go to supercheap/autobarn whatever?

huhjared
02-11-2007, 10:21 PM
']Did you go to supercheap/autobarn whatever?

no went BP servo...
anyway only mitsu sells them

huhjared
05-11-2007, 08:55 PM
just to keep u guys updated about transmission fluid, you can get them for your magna at repco as well...

1 question:

how do we check the level of the transmission fluid??
engine on while it is in N or off?
when on and off it gives reading world's apart...

Magna91
05-11-2007, 09:27 PM
While it is obvious to use the Mitsubishi stuff, i'll add that I did some research into the Magna automatics and i'm now running it with a Fuchs fluid, have been for 6 months, works great. Don't have the bottle anymore so I can't give an exact number, but it did state "For front wheel drive vehicles including Mitsubishi Magna TR-TS". Also used Castrol TQM-ST in the past which seemed to work alright, it should do anyway according to the specifications:


"Castrol TQM-ST conforms with the characteristics of Mitsubishi SPII,
SP2M, and SP III Automatic Transmission Fluid requirements."

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_australia/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/t/TQMST_B1953_05.pdf

That said what Poita said is correct, only a handful will work successfully with the trans. I've only found about 3 so far, so it's best to read up, do the research and go for whatever's best. Always if in doubt, go for the genuine Mitsubishi fluids because it's pretty much guaranteed to keep it in working order.

i286
06-11-2007, 01:22 PM
1 question:

how do we check the level of the transmission fluid??
engine on while it is in N or off?
when on and off it gives reading world's apart...



To check fluid level transmission should be at operating temperature 70-80 degrees Celsius. Drive the vehicle for a minimum of 16 kilometers to bring the transmission to operating temp.
Place the vehicle on a level floor and apply handbrake.
With the engine idling, move the selector lever through all the gear positions, momentarily stopping at each position. This will fill torque converter and hydraulic circuit with fluid, then place lever in "N" position.
Allow the engine to idle in NEUTRAL during the checking procedure.
The fluid level should be in the "HOT" range.
If fluid level is low, add ATF until level reaches "HOT" range.

NOTE
Low fluid level can cause a variety of conditions because it allows the pump to take in air along with fluid. Air trapped in the hydraulic circuit forms bubbles which make the fluid spongy, therefore, pressures will be erratic.
Improper filling can also raise fluid level too high. When the transmission has too much fluid, gears churn up foam and cause the same conditions which occur with low fluid level, resulting in accelerated deterioration of ATF.
In either case, air bubbles can cause overheating, fluid oxidation, which can interfere with normal valve, clutch and servo operation.