Ok now i have a VL fcalais Turbo at the moment my missus drives a TR magna i really enjoy her car hence the auto transmission.

Now im getting ready to sell my calais as i want a more conspicuious car to do up and a bit newer 90's model car and somthin i can leave in a car park and know its going to be there when i get back aka..bankstown cento.

Now i have i have 3 choices of cars to get after i sell my calais now they all have pro's and cons in my favour and not.

1st
Magna SE TR-TS 92 now i want a SE as i want electrics now i want V6 aswell and want manual aswell the only thing that stops me is FWD i like RWD alot better but i think the TR magna looks alot better then a Soarer and a VT to be honest might just be me but yer lol.
Now i would want to swap the engine to a V6 GTO engine or put the V6 2.5 twin Turbo from the 97 galant i also want manual transmission

2nd.
a VT commodore yesh a standard VT berlina so i can get the electric windows and so on but i want it to be manual which i think will be a hard thing to find also i want to put the supercharged Ecotec engine in it.

3rd.

Toyota Soarer i dunno what model it is but its the 1 with the small round lighst then wide lights at the front now i was told these only come %5 manual if that but if i give my left nut maybe get a manual.
Also i would want to put a 2JZGTE in it in place of the 1JZGTE and use the 6 speed.

There my 3 choices what you guys think im leaning to the magna as i think its the less standout car on the outside.

Soarer is 2 doors so im leaning away from that.

But trying to find manual in these 3 cars seem to be hell.

Your thoughts

Well a VT would probably stay in the car park, a soarer might go missin with a Front mount not to metion the TR aswell.

but really what do you need? a daily driver? load space, 4 doors?
think about insurance aswell... Can you do the work yourself?

What whould be easier to repair if anything goes wrong?

VT would tick most of the boxes for ease of install and insurance and load space.

But if after the zippy daily for one then the soarer for me with the 2jz-gte, and if you can get the manual 6 speed, ooh the fun!:D

dont even think of gettin a soarer. they ***** man. slugs and expensive as **** to both insure and fix...$800 bucks for a side mirror!! ( i work at toyota)
vt = meh. ok car but its a commodore the last thing i want to do after gettin rid of my vlt would be to get another commo...i much prefer my verada (2nd gen) over my vlt anyday..
jus my 2cents

I agree Soarer wouldn't be what I'd get. As good as the TR is, the VT is a bit of an upgrade.. however I think a TR would be less likely to be broken into. Why stop at a 92 model when u could pick up a 95 verada with everything but the manual box for around $3k. Then could possibly do a manual conversion

dude just buy a FACTORY supercharged commodore, can be had for under 10k now, a few mods and that haul!

and best of all it looks normal unless you go nuts on it and less wank than a soarer, and not to mention less hassle with insurace repairs and theft....

forget the few magna conversion idea, why would you bother? you said it yourself you prefer rwd, so why buy a ****ty magna that spend 5k on it putting in an old 2nd hand engine just so you cant get it sideways anymore.... commodore ftw!

Ok well all cars i buy are going to Cop a engine conversion anyways

VT will be the easiest of conversions going from a 3.8LT 6CYL ECOTEC to a 3.8LT 6CYL ECOTEC SUPERCHARGED same mounts and so on as far as i know basically str8 forward and i will convert manual if i cant find a manual VT.

magna will have to be an SE with V6 3.0 and i will convert it 2 manual if it isnt and also put either the 3000GT or GTO engine 3.0 twin turbo or the 2.5LT Twinturbo from the galant i think the 3000GT would be better option but being FWD i think it will be a crazy combo.

Soarer i will be putting the whole 2JZ engine in and manual 6 speeds now for weight im sure they weigh less then a Supra and these 2JZ engine over 300rwkw on stock internals thats somthing of a work of art.

These 3 cars are pretty cheap to start within price range its just the decision of what 1 i want to buy and mod.

Insurance i dont care about as my VLT was $4000+ a year with all mods and i could only settle for 3rd party anyways.

Soarer is the only standard turbo car in the pick of mine aswell im think it will cost abit more on the other 2 to engineer.

or the 2.5LT Twinturbo from the galant

Soarer i will be putting the whole 2JZ engine in and manual 6 speeds now for weight im sure they weigh less then a Supra and these 2JZ engine over 300rwkw on stock internals thats somthing of a work of art.



1: wont fit

2: i've read up to 1000hp on stock internals

You don't necessarily need to go for the SE, with a little work it is relatively easy to fit electrics to a non-electric magna; several of us have fitted power windows in the past few months, usually with a total cost of no more than $200 (mine was $40...)

I've also seen an electric driver's seat at my local wrecker's for $40, but I couldn't really see the point as it doesn't have memory.

And climate control can be had for around $50.

Just throwing it in, so you don't necessarily have to limit your magna choices and make it hard to find.

Just thought if i bought an SE str8 up i wouldnt have to bother at all with electric s and just work on the engine and then suspension setup same as buying a VT calais or berlina i just couldnt be bothered dioing that when i have bigger fish to fry.

So the 2.5LT twin Turbo from the 96 model galant wont fit ok kools thats 1 engine off my list then a while ago i was looking at doing a VR4 conversion to a magna but was steered away by afew people im guessing the 3000GT engine is looking good then.

But ease and cost the VT will be the Best bet im guessing.

But power and aftermarket parts the 2JZGTE in the soarer will be best.

But sleeper action 3000GT twn turbo engine in TR will be better.

Well if you are going to do engine conversions, why not get a KR/KS Verada? Comes with all the electrics standard and youll pick one up cheap, also they are easier to find than a Magna SE, Why not a Magna Elite?

Why not an AWD TJ ?

So the 2.5LT twin Turbo from the 96 model galant wont fit ok kools thats 1 engine off my list then a while ago i was looking at doing a VR4 conversion to a magna but was steered away by afew people im guessing the 3000GT engine is looking good then.
As has been discussed frequently in the past, the only Galant engine that will fit is the 4G73(T) engine from the earlier 90's second gen looking Galant. Sogg stuck the 4G73T in his first gen, looked sweet, a real sleeper. That said, the second gen is heavier than the first gen, and your only real performance transplant is a 6G72 DOHC (T/TT) motor, provided you have a V6 to start with.

Yer i think thats the motor thats the same as the GTO/3000GT am i correct
V6 3.0 Twin turbo is it MIVEC aswell im not sure but i heard this fits on the V6 Mounts needs piping rerouted for a few things and so on but is prett str8 forward dunno bout the Gbox though.

If im wrong correct me please.

But i think im looking at a VT Berliner or Calais and then putting a L67 supercharged engine in it.
So much easy same mounts and RWD then down the track ill go to twin of big single turbo.
But ill want manual im still deciding as a Soarer with 2JZ will be mega kool.

I have a KS verada with all the electrics.. climate control, cruise, power windows/mirrors, lights everywhere etc.. for sale for $3k. Body is perfect.

Yer i think thats the motor thats the same as the GTO/3000GT am i correct
V6 3.0 Twin turbo is it MIVEC aswell im not sure but i heard this fits on the V6 Mounts needs piping rerouted for a few things and so on but is prett str8 forward dunno bout the Gbox though.

If im wrong correct me please.

But i think im looking at a VT Berliner or Calais and then putting a L67 supercharged engine in it.
So much easy same mounts and RWD then down the track ill go to twin of big single turbo.
But ill want manual im still deciding as a Soarer with 2JZ will be mega kool.
If you're looking into forced induction RWD like the VT and Soarer then you'd be a ****ing idiot to bother with your magna, its just money down the toilet if you have something capable of much much more in a more preferable FR format and with parts that are nice and common.

6G72 DOHC is the engine from the 3000GT/GTO/Diamante/Stealth, it's not a MIVEC engine but I have heard of a similar model available with MIVEC. DOHC fits on V6 engine mounts, requires custom extractors (or at least OEM factory DOHC extractors (different ports to SOHC)) and other plumbing, along with the obvious electrical wiring and such. Gearbox from the SOHC bolts up to the DOHC.

Ok kool yer i was thinking about the RWD being more capable of power figures higher and also being able to put them down But... then i come back to with such high power where am i really going to use it.

But i would like to have forced induction of some type on the 3 cars.

I dont know how hard it is to install a 2JZ into a soarer i know the other 2 conversions are pretty str8 forward with mounts being the same.

Your magne sounds nice but i have no cash yet as this is what im going to do wen funds arive from me selling my calais Turbo.

My manual KS wagon has the GTO motor, it's good on fuel and screams like crazy when you rev it. Plenty of fun and very solid and reliable.

Theres motors for sale down here in vic for $500, thats the cheap part.
Doing the wiring, extractors, ecu etc will cost you close to $3000
So unless your willing to part with $3500 plus for the conversion, probarbly best to give the TR project the boot :cool:

well if i did go ahead with it id go twin turbo motor which would probley cost me more den $500.

Id use the standard ECU and keep most standard until i have more funs to really do it up.

im leaning towards the VT and Soarer more but im still unsure the sound of a twin turbo magna is somthin that makes me get goose bumps.

i was also told that the 2.6 sigma turbo engine will fit in the TR 4 cyl and can use the TR 4cyl head as it has better flow abilities aswell is this tru?

i was also told that the 2.6 sigma turbo engine will fit in the TR 4 cyl and can use the TR 4cyl head as it has better flow abilities aswell is this tru?
It's the same engine... Still the crappy Astron, just with a turbo on it. Manifold connecting to the turbo will bolt up, however dump pipe won't and you'll need the rest of plumbing too. Sigma engine is also rear wheel drive, bits and pieces won't be the same... Plus the magna engine is newer and is technically a better engine (roller rockers etc.)

i was just thinking if you use the EFI 2.6 head on the Sigma Turbo Ashtron 2.6 block would it all work but thats for a 4cylinder anyways if i was to do the TR project i would go V6 so scrap that as i said i already thought bout the 4G63T VR4 TR but was quickly changed my mind about it with people saying it isnt worth it just buy a Galant VR4.

Im starting to lean Towards the soarer as i wouldnt have to do as much to get it engineered as a VT or Magna as its already turbo.
Diff is already LSD and is pretty good i been told.
But i would want to change the engine to the 2JZGTE give me very good platform of engine to work with for high amounts of power with an unopened engine.

L67 Supercharged VT would be good but i was told to make really good power to times i will have to ditch the Supercharger and go turbo or TTurbo as if i pushed the L67 i would get about just under 300kw at the wheels thats really pushing it good for say about low 13's so i have been told teh VT weights 1700kgs.

2JZ is the best bet i guess but wonder how hard it is installing this engine into a soarer i heard sumps play apart but also its going into a same Family series engined car like an RB25 into A VL so im hoping its pretty str8 forward.

you have no idea about anything do you man?

v6supercharged.com.au look on there

like i said you can but a factory supercharged commo for under 10k on a par with a good TJ magna, then spend 5k on it and it' could run a high 12 if your lucky


or why not buy a VXss 5.7L there going for around 14k now

why spend 5k on a ****ty 2nd gen then 5k on an engine conversion, then you still have crappy brakes and chassis, then do all them mods and wow you have a 95mdl magna that can smoke the front tyres like it's going out of fashion when you could have had an ss or an R32 or something else that has a better chassis brakes and more power stock without anymods

whynot buy a turbo saab, there are some modded ones out there with 200+kwatw thee was one on ebay for under 10k late 90's model 220kw atw prettymuch smoke all but one magna in the country easy with that one!

You dont get it do you??

if i wanted an R32 why would i get rid of mt RB powered VLCT an RB20DET would still be going backwards and why would i want a V8??

Im just saying these are the 3 cars and asking people for there opinions as to what to do and all cars will have some form of Forced induction and i dont want a V8 if i wanted a V8 commodore or a Saab i would have put that in my Choices aswell.

But as i said im getting info about the Magna ideas of the TR with a swap of what engine i not only want but what i can do.

and comparing an R32 and SS to a 95 magna totally different physics at work wen they are done up.

ive been looking around for things on sites about the supercharged engines in VTs i found a VT SS supercharged for $14000 and it was manual aswell but didnt have the money at the time.

i was told you need spacer/split plate to run a cooler pullies to run a max of 12 psi ECU chipped or a Aftermarket ECU exhaust and with a max of like 300kw as the throttle intake holds u back best bet is ditch it and get a Turbo or twin turbo.

$14000 before i do any mods now after i do all the stuff i want to it aswell im going to be over $20,000+ easy thats without an engine rebuild.

now if i get a TR magna thats $3000.
leaves me with bout $5000 to buy and fit the engine.

Soarer probley $8000 up but there i got a 1JZGTTE already so really i see the VT as the exspensive option.

i get whaT YOUR SAYING IN AWAY THOUGH buy what u want from the start.
but to me buying some1 else dun up car is cheating.

see if i bought a front cut of a GTO for a V6 TR i basically got everything liek brakes,loom,ecu so on.

i buy a you say $10,000 i seen them for $14,000 its already cost me more money mate.
Much better chasis yesh cause RWD fair enuff but i want a powerfull car but i aint gunna drag or drift it.

So dont come in here saying i know nothing as i think its very rude mate i have read up a fair bit about this but you never know if you dont ask.

The cars i seem to liek havent got the engine i like as the R32 id want an RB25 in it insted of the RB20.

If you have $5K to play with, buy a crappy 2nd gen (Preferably a KS with blown motor!) Rip it out, and do the DOHC conversion, it revs out something crazy like just under 7000rpm??
basically it will be a real sleeper.
Doing the TT conversion is possible but id be using a fully programmable ECU and thats like $2K just there...Been done once before and i dont think he saw much change from $8K.

For $5K, if i had the chance at magna modding all again i probably would of done that first.
but im having my time now ;)

yer but if i keep the engine and all components stock then i should have no problems using the stock ECU and i mean standard size exhaust stock air intakes and all that as i will to get it all engineered and passed.

Then after i save a lil i will get a ECU and exhaust and so on.