Hey fellas i just recieved a H.I.D (high intensity discharge) conversion kit headlamp system and i was wondering where i would have to go to get it done and how much it would set me back.:cool:

why don't you do it your self

Should be fairly easy, just need to wire up them up, then plug the new HID globes in if they are that type. Careful though, you might get blasted for having HID's on this forum!

Ollie

Nothing wrong with HID's, just as long as they are done right... :nuts:

You will find that you will probably need a relay, the startup current on most ballasts is too great for the stock wiring - you end up with a strobe.

You are using the H4's as a base - good, they are a much better designed reflector.

I'll tell you now though - a pair of 90/100W H4s with 100W H1s and a relay harness will blow them out of the water for performance... Been there done that.

why don't you do it your self


i would but i want to make sure its done properly

i would but i want to make sure its done properly

just follow the instructions, have everything layed out and take you time and if you have any questions just ask one of the members

:cool: will do

Nothing wrong with HID's, just as long as they are done right... :nuts:



Im presuming he is just intending to put the cheaper kits which just replace the globes, not the full whatever.

Anyone tried the cheap kits which just replace the bulbs on the 2nd gen parra's, I know the 3rd gens didnt go to well, but the 2nd gen has the H4 and additional H1, thought it might be a bit better???

Ollie

tell us how it is when its installed .. thinking of getting one myself

Im presuming he is just intending to put the cheaper kits which just replace the globes, not the full whatever.



Nah mate its the full kit, if it was just the globe replacement that would just be a quick 10 min job and no worries, but since its the full kit it would take some time and accuracy.


tell us how it is when its installed .. thinking of getting one myself

yea il do it within the next few days and post some pics up for you

Nah mate its the full kit, if it was just the globe replacement that would just be a quick 10 min job and no worries, but since its the full kit it would take some time and accuracy.


Ah k, how much did that set you back. Want to do the cheaper way, but bit hesitant that i might not work too well, more blinding other drivers than not getting good lighting. Let us know how it goes...

Ollie

my uncle baught it for me in russia and it cost him $180 US, and il get it set up as soon as i can and post some feedback.

i would but i want to make sure its done properly
It's good to hear that you are willing to make sure they are done properly! :cool:

Many people just go ahead and dump them straight in, without consideration that the light pattern output is different and isn't designed for the standard halogen reflectors - this is the main cause of glare to other drivers.

If they are done properly, they should work great, and will certainly look the par :D

my uncle baught it for me in russia and it cost him $180 US, and il get it set up as soon as i can and post some feedback.

hope the instructions are in english, you might need a mail order bride to give you a hand if not... ;)

Doing a hid install properly means fitting the projectors, bulbs and ballasts out of a car fitted with HID's (audi TT and BMW E46, Accord Euro are all good contenders) into the cars headlamp.

Not replacing it with a bulb that 'kinda works'. I said it before and I will say it again - a set of 90/100's with relays costs about $50 to do yourself and has far better output (and is more legal) than a H4 HID kit. I have both, I will quite happily take photos of the two side-by side so you can see.

I have a H4 kit I removed off someone's car at their request to fit overwattage bulbs - they were far happier with the halogens. HID kits are for looks only, not performance.

Cheers
Heath Young

how about the H7 and H1 kits on flea bay that can be had for only $50!

damn i always run high watt globes but couldnt find them for my awd so i put the phillips rip off vision ones that cost me $$$ damn it!

how about the H7 and H1 kits on flea bay that can be had for only $50!


Do you even need to ask?! :nuts:



damn i always run high watt globes but couldnt find them for my awd so i put the phillips rip off vision ones that cost me $$$ damn it!

H7 Vision Plus is a very good stock wattage H7. Probably the best available at the moment (still)

H7 Philips Rally (80W H7, insane amounts of light) or go the Osram hyper 65W - its a H9 globe (high efficiency 2100 Lumens!!) on a H7 Base - 65W so you aren't risking your reflectors either.

H1's just go the Philips Vision Plus.

Cheers
Heath Young

hope the instructions are in english, you might need a mail order bride to give you a hand if not... ;)


lol it didnt come with any (unless someone lost it) but you can tell what go's where :)



Doing a hid install properly means fitting the projectors, bulbs and ballasts out of a car fitted with HID's (audi TT and BMW E46, Accord Euro are all good contenders) into the cars headlamp.

Not replacing it with a bulb that 'kinda works'. I said it before and I will say it again - a set of 90/100's with relays costs about $50 to do yourself and has far better output (and is more legal) than a H4 HID kit. I have both, I will quite happily take photos of the two side-by side so you can see.

I have a H4 kit I removed off someone's car at their request to fit overwattage bulbs - they were far happier with the halogens. HID kits are for looks only, not performance.

Cheers
Heath Young

yeah mine is H4 kit, and they use half the power too :D

Osram hyper 65W - its a H9 globe (high efficiency 2100 Lumens!!) on a H7 Base

got a link to these anywhere?

they fit right in i take it?

The usual suspects (susquehana motorsport www.rallylights.com is having website headaches so I will see who else - daniel stern sells them as well, I'll see if there is an Australian seller...

Rallylights info http://www.rallylights.com/hella/H7.asp

I have both, I will quite happily take photos of the two side-by side so you can see.
Cheers
Heath Young

Hi Heath,

Would appreciate some pics so people can judge for themselves

Thanks

Not a problem, I'll take some when I get a chance. It would be good also to show the inadequacies of the beam quality.

Where is the plug for this in the car?

Thats the trigger for your relay, you hook it up to the H4 connector that was originally for your bulb.

Ahhh i see il give it a go now,
thnx :)

I Just replaced mine with the same wattage 'Arctic Blue' globes and it made a big difference, much easier on the eyes for long distance night travelling as well.
The thing I was worried about with higher wattage globes is I don't know whether my lens is made of plastic or glass and don't want it going brown :S

somebody didnt put the tools back :angry: so im gonna wait till tomoro



I Just replaced mine with the same wattage 'Arctic Blue' globes and it made a big difference, much easier on the eyes for long distance night travelling as well.
The thing I was worried about with higher wattage globes is I don't know whether my lens is made of plastic or glass and don't want it going brown :S

the good thing about HID's is that they use half the power, are they just normal halogens ?

the good thing about HID's is that they use half the power, are they just normal halogens ?

Yeah Arctic Blue are just normal replacement ones, but a much whiter light, makes the stock ones look brown.

The HID's are finaly in, they look great totaly worth it and easy enought to do bout 1 1/2 hrs max
il post some pics on soon

nice did you point the beam towards the ground hehe or it does it blind people still either way ?

lol yer they are pointed down

I have had my HID's in for about 3 months now and it was the best thing I ever did try and compensate for the crap design of the parra's. I think I spent almost as much on replacement bulbs trying to get better light onto the road as I did on the whole HID kit delivered.

Im running the 6000 K bulbs and gives a slight blue tinge. They are very easy on the eyes for night driving. I haven't had anyone flash me yet so they mustn't be too bright for oncoming traffic I have them adjusted correctly. I think If I had of gone the 4300k or 5000k it would have been too bright for oncoming traffic.

The lights cost me $100 Au delivered off Ebay and took about 1.5 hours to install each side. I used all the stock wiring as the kit only draws 35 watts and not 55 watts like the standard bulbs. The only thing I had to do extra was make up some spacers to go in the back of the light to take the place of the stock ones.

come on people!!!!! Pictures of your setups!

See what I can do. What do you want a picture of exactly?

I would say beam quality - against a wall, say 5m or so away.

ok see what i can do.

I guess the main problem that I have with the HID's and the Parras is the flat bit on the lens on the top. The light hits this and reflects on the road, you will see this when I get to take a pic. I had this same problem when I was trying all the other standard bulbs as well so I'm willing to overlook it.

3rd gen 1 piece paras a no go for HID?

here some pics, took them today around 6pm so the sun was still out :doubt:
still good, better at night but so il take night photos soon too

3rd gen 1 piece paras a no go for HID?

Nah, it looks like crap. Glare everywhere and odd colours. Foreground lighting is far too intense, and there is very little illumination off to the sides - it looks brighter, but you actually see less. (Your distance vision is compromised by the very bright forground closing your pupils to compensate)

The exec lamps are far better for this, better optics to start with and better glare control.