Not sure, but is this when you fully accelerate the car from standstill, and the front wheels are scrabbling squealing for grip? This really pisses me off i have to say being a front wheel drive I suppose you get that. Is there anyway to reduce it at all? Im only running stock tyres at the moment. Is this a common thing with all front wheel drives? U cant really beat AWD or even rear wheel drive. It just helps when you need to rip it from a start to get in front of someone or something....

Do any of u that have 18inch or 17inch wheels that are lowerd have this problem still? Like can you full on floor it and it still spins?



Chris

Torque steer is when you are cornering under hard throttle, and the tyres don't want to turn (understeer). You can try better quality tyres, fitting a camber kit and dialing in some negative camber, fitting an anti-lift castor bush kit, or for lots of $$$, a limited slip diff.

Not sure, but is this when you fully accelerate the car from standstill, and the front wheels are scrabbling squealing for grip? This really pisses me off i have to say being a front wheel drive I suppose you get that. Is there anyway to reduce it at all? Im only running stock tyres at the moment. Is this a common thing with all front wheel drives? U cant really beat AWD or even rear wheel drive. It just helps when you need to rip it from a start to get in front of someone or something....

Do any of u that have 18inch or 17inch wheels that are lowerd have this problem still? Like can you full on floor it and it still spins?



Chris

Umm...if you flatten a rwd with the same power you'd get spinning too...

If you're talking about torque steer itself, that's when the steering wheel gets pulled to one side because one wheel is driving. There's no need to spark an awd/rwd/fwd debate, they all have their pro's and con's.

But to reduce torque steer, fit a strut brace, the flexing in the strut towers helps torque steer exist, fitting a strut brace stop the flexing.

There are other ways but I cant think of them off the top of my head right now...too tired

sif not want to drop the clutch in first at 6000rpm and change lanes with out touching the steering wheel :badgrin:

tek, you just called torque steer understeer when they are two completely different things... :?:

Oh I did too :lol: I hope I pay more attention at the meet later (cue for other people to stay the f away from my tail lol)

lol!!! I was thinking "no...tek knows what he's talking about..why the hell did he say that!?"
:lol: :lol:

We all have our bad days ;)

I woke up about 5 times last night because I was hungry but couldn't find the willpower to make something to eat. End result was getting about 5 hours sleep and still hungry. Need like a long-range stomach or a camel's hump.

lol wouldnt mind a hump myself actually

Camel hump cleavage \:D/

lol wouldnt mind a hump myself actually

i know of a certain clothe's shop attendant - and she wouldnt mind some flowers from you there mate HAHAHAHAHAHA

Torque about changing the subject, wah wah wah wah waaaaaahhhhhh.

ba-doom tshh

nice one :D

"Torque steer

Definition: The annoying tendency of some front-wheel drive vehicles to pull to one side when engine torque is applied. In other words, you step on the gas and the car wants to steer right or left. By redesigning the power train to use equal length half shafts between the transaxle and wheels, the tendency towards torque steer can be greatly reduced. The other cure is to keep off the gas. "
-- http://autorepair.about.com/library/glossary/bldef-763a.htm

This page also has some interesting comments about Torque steer:
http://mcasco.com/qa_ts.html

[quote:68b9d9304f]"....keep off the gas!"[/quote:68b9d9304f]

yeah like who the hell is going to take that advice!!!

but its a good explanation of torque steer!!! wider tyres do help a bit but the strut brace is prolly the best single component!!

strut brace = understeer in fast corners too. HAHAAHHAHHAHAAA
but without struct brace, you'll probably fly off the road on the other side.

Fat tires help, but slowing down helps more!

So are you saying getting a strut brace will make the car understeer more?

THe strut brace won't necessarily cause the vehicle to understeer but it will definitly on a magna have two effects

(A) Reduce the tendancy of the vehicle to wander all over the road and stay in a straight line

(B) Reduce torque steer Ie the tendancy to go sideways when you tramp the accelerator pedal.

The problem you are referring to in terms of traction can be aided in several ways

(A) REplacement of the front engine mount with a RPW Polyuerethane unit which stops themotor from jumping around so much and helping to get more traction as the car remains more stable

(B) The Anti Lift kits I spoke with Whiteline about and the end result- zilch and won't do a thing for traction issues. Don't waste your time on it friends.

(C) Fitment of some larger tyres on teh front

(D) Fitment of an LSD so you can spin two wheels instead of 1 :D

An LSD will also fix the torque steer problem, as it stops one wheel 'driving' the car, traction is pretty equal between both, you know what I mean.

I've experienced dam scary torque steer in a mates TX5, even if it is a FORD/MAZDA it runs like a flat 14 second 1/4 mile, and the fact its a front wheel drive running 15 pounds of boost with no LSD what so ever and only 215's I think makes for some real mean torque steer, scares the absolute sh*t outta ya, especially when you put your foot to the floor, it breaks traction way too easy.

My TT magna has virtualy no torque steer and drives on hard acceleration perfectly straight.

If I am already doing around 80 km/hr and hit it hard it will try to grab a bit but only very minor.

:| GOWING 80 then you hit it..
if i did that.. whait what am i tlakign about.. i cant even get to 80...