I ordered a Diamante bar with fog lights last week and it's due for delivery tomorrow. Just to be sure, I went out and started trying out a few things, took the grille off, took the bolts out of the headlights... then got stuck.

How do you get the front indicators out? I removed the small steel clip, and tried to push back the white clip to no luck... I must be missing something here. I assume the indicator would come out before the headlight due to the setup... otherwise there's my problem right there. :P

I'm also not sure how to wire the fog lights in, whether to run them off an existing line or to have a separate switch run in through the dash. I'm getting conflicting reports from just about everywhere.

Pics up when it's done, should look great compared to the el stocko bar on there now. :)

Take grille out. Good.
Idicators should just be clipped in, i used to a screwdriver to poke the clip in and then you sort of pull it out.
Headlights are held in with I THINK 4 x 10mm Nuts. if its not 10mm its 12mm, one or the other.

There will be a bolt holdint the bar on in the centre of the car, behind grille.
theres also 2 LONG bolts Behind the headlights.
theres 2 screws holwing it in under the wheel arch.
and 2 screws holding it in via a metal bar where the front wheel is, you'll see it attaching the bar to the body.

pretty sure thats it. Ive taken mine on and off enough times now to know!

Hah, I've only just done this about 10 mins ago to put in a new set of parras and new grill, my only problem was I didnt even think the parras might have different connectors to the stock lights :redface: Whipping out the soldering iron later

And just out of curiosity, where'd you pick your bar up from and how much?

Hah, I've only just done this about 10 mins ago to put in a new set of parras and new grill, my only problem was I didnt even think the parras might have different connectors to the stock lights :redface: Whipping out the soldering iron later

And just out of curiosity, where'd you pick your bar up from and how much?
Heh don't worry mate, they are only parkers, just use crimps or something.

can someone please tell me where they get the diamante front bar as i have done some searching and no one has any.. like name of wrecker or something(email or phone) as i have wanted this for over a year now...

Thanks guys..

Hey Deanimus, try those two Jap parts places in Brissy that I listed in Josh TR's WTB thread: http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54146&page=2

In SA, I got mine from Confederate Motor Wreckers in Para Hills, not sure if they have any left, but they also had about 3 over at Eddy Wreckers in Edwardstown when I called last week. Both were $150.

I'll give it a crack tomorrow afternoon then, unfortunately 17 years of engine heat and weather effects have worn away and snapped 2 of the grille clips :doubt:, but it fit in well enough just by shuffling the good ones around. I'll see if I can get a couple of spares when i'm at the wreckers next.

I'll give it a crack tomorrow afternoon then, unfortunately 17 years of engine heat and weather effects have worn away and snapped 2 of the grille clips :doubt:, but it fit in well enough just by shuffling the good ones around. I'll see if I can get a couple of spares when i'm at the wreckers next.
Cable ties are your new best friend.

with the wiring juts go to super sh** (super cheap) and pick up a drinf light kit cost you about $15

what front you are getting series 1 or 2

sounds good hope it all works out well
series I or II?

I just identify them by look, so I don't know whether it's series I or II... I just went by this photo that dimi provided in an earlier thread.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9779/p1kj5.jpg

Definitely give cable ties the go, I have about 50 of them out in the shed. The fog lights... i'll take a look over at Super Cheap. Thought it was just a "wire it in to an existing grid" thing or "run new wire up in to the dash"... but alright. :)

series 1, nice

yeah series I did you get the fat aero front lip with it or just standard front lip?

I'll say standard for now, I couldn't see it very well because the wreckers shed was dark as hell, but i'll let you all know as soon as it gets here. :)

sweet as
should've taken a pic :)

Thanks guys..i'll call em tomorrow.... i hope they have one...:D

Thanks guys..i'll call em tomorrow.... i hope they have one...:D

Just a heads up, I tried AllJap at Virginia on Tues who said they had one but it was scratched to hell - guy on the phone said he wanted 160 for it. Haven't seen it myself so dunno how bad 'scratched to hell' is lol

How long has it been... a week or two? Anyway, it finally arrived tonight, complete with scrapes and a couple of scratches, nothing a bit of a polish up shouldn't fix. I'll whack it on tomorrow and take a couple of pics. Should have it ready just in time for the SA cruise on Sunday. :)

To answer a question, it's doesn't have the fat aero lip in the one pictured above, but still looks fairly damn good none-the-less.

Hey, say you only get the front bar where could you get the aero lip from??

I always thought it was physically moulded with or without that aero lip... I just ended up getting one that didn't have it, perhaps an earlier series or different part altogether.

Should mention I also found a spoiler kit, complete with wiring and brake light over at U-Pull-It Elizabeth on one of their TR Magnas (don't worry, it's not off a Commodore lol), but it's a crimson colour. I'll probably repaint it when I give the entire car a spray over in a few months. Well, I hope a few months. Then maybe rims... who knows. Could be something as simple as WD-40 around the central locking for the next "mod". :P

Took all the headlights out, indicators, most of the bolts and got down to the last 2 bolts, I think the 2 main ones, long bolts, one on each side of the grille. If you've put on a Diamante bar, you'll probably know what i'm talking about.

Anyway... they won't budge! :rant: I've tried 2 shifters, a ratchet, a vice-grip and even soaked them in WD40, no dice, they won't turn.

Now i've got a half disassembled Magna and i'm not sure what to do, put it all back together or keep trying. I need the car back together for Sunday though, so my time is running out.

Took all the headlights out, indicators, most of the bolts and got down to the last 2 bolts, I think the 2 main ones, long bolts, one on each side of the grille. If you've put on a Diamante bar, you'll probably know what i'm talking about.

Anyway... they won't budge! :rant: I've tried 2 shifters, a ratchet, a vice-grip and even soaked them in WD40, no dice, they won't turn.

Now i've got a half disassembled Magna and i'm not sure what to do, put it all back together or keep trying. I need the car back together for Sunday though, so my time is running out.

Get a product called innox. Its good enough to loosen exhaust bolts so itll work.

Get a product called innox. Its good enough to loosen exhaust bolts so itll work.
Isn't that a battery conditioner?

']Isn't that a battery conditioner?

no, it's like WD40, only better!

we use it on the boat, excellent stuff!

']Isn't that a battery conditioner?

yep...

Rule 32 from the book of Magna: "If at first you don't succeed, find a bigger ratchet." :P

Finally found a better ratchet to turn the damn thing. Anyway, the Diamante bar is on! Along with a new battery box to replace the old rust heap that was in there before. It looks great, way better than I first expected, really lifts the look of the car.

Couldn't get any pics because it was at least 9:00 PM when I finished everything and cleaned up, but now that it's on, I should be able to attend the SA pre-cruise meet tomorrow and get some pics then.

:D

The bad news is I found a small amount of coolant under the car, pretty much directly below the region of the water pump. Had to tighten up one of the hoses, hopefully that's all that needed done otherwise... new water pump. It hasn't leaked since I was first out there yesterday, and it has been running since then, so maybe i'll be lucky for once.

Here it is, photo taken at the SA Pre-Cruise meet.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2347/trdiamante640ne3.jpg

(Obviously the plates have been edited)

:shock: No lip?

:shock: No lip?
He said that on page 2.

He said that on page 2.
Ah, I cbf reading all of the thread :P

I don'y know if anyone is interested in doing things legally but in NSW QLD and VIC it is illegal to have foglights that can be switched on while the headlights are on. It is also illegal to have driving lights that can operate independantly of the high beam lights. Just a thought considering how many times myself and lots of people I know have been blinded by driving lights mounted in the bumper bar, that do not go off when the headlights are dipped from high to low beam. I get very tempted to just switch my high beam back on and leave them on. almost road rage tho.

For the record these ones aren't even wired up yet, but if I do put them in i'll get it done with a proper kit rather than just running them off the existing headlight circuitry.

I don'y know if anyone is interested in doing things legally but in NSW QLD and VIC it is illegal to have foglights that can be switched on while the headlights are on. It is also illegal to have driving lights that can operate independantly of the high beam lights.
Wrong, or at least for QLD. In fact, it's the opposite. Driving lights can only operate with a minimum of parkers on, as long as they are under 55W they are not required to be tied in with high beam in any way.
Reference: http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/file/eb57c508de5dea8/Modification_jan05v2.pdf (yes that it the latest version)
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Industry/Repairers/Light_vehicle_modifications/

"Additional pairs of headlights, showing a beam of white
light only, may be fitted and must not affect the driver’s
view. The headlights must be mounted symmetrically.
Additional high beam headlights must extinguish
automatically when low beam is selected.

A pair of fog lights, showing a beam of white or yellow
light, may be fitted to the front of a motor vehicle with
the centres no higher than the top of the dipped beam
headlight. The lights must be mounted symmetrically not
less than 600mm apart.

Fog lights must be capable of being switched on and off
independently of any headlights but must only be able
to be switched on when the parking lights are on. Fog
lights must not be used except in fog or mist or under
other atmospheric conditions which restrict visibility."

Fog lights must be capable of being switched on and off
independently of any headlights but must only be able
to be switched on when the parking lights are on. Fog
lights must not be used except in fog or mist or under
other atmospheric conditions which restrict visibility."

what dictates a fog light as oppose to a driving light?

My sisters Subaru had fog/driving lights which can be turned on/off at any tim. they stay on when the headlights are on. as with the calais. so if it's illegal to have them on, i'll have about 1000 fines heading my way:doubt:

what dictates a fog light as oppose to a driving light?
I presume placement on the front of the car, reflector size, bulb wattage, whether or not manufacturer specifies 'fog light' and what not.

Haven't had any problems with my wanker lights with the cops.

hey guy bar looks okay
no lip though looks pretty much the same as stock one just with foggies
see if you can source the lip
anyhow the new front bar is better than an ausdm bar
btw man you need some alloy wheels
them chrome hubcaps are not the way to go (sorry for sounding mean but it's true)

and whats all this pansy jibber talk about driving lights
who cares guys
just drive with them on or off.... there's worser things that you could do http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

illegal this illegal that ahhh http://www.viverge.fr/smileys/Doh.gif

hmmm bar looks okay
no lip though looks pretty much the same as stock one just with foggies
but always better than an ausdm bar

Yeah... I will admit, it would have looked a lot better with the aero lip around the base but overall i'm pleased with the result as it looks a lot less stock, that and the bar only set me back $150, it was in perfect shape and it was only a few minutes drive away... how could I refuse? lol

Should look a lot better with a new paint job. I'm thinking of going over the entire car in black, the only problem I can see with that is the fact the Diamante bar grilles are also black and won't stand out afterward. Maybe I can repaint those as well, something a little different, maybe a chrome. Time to start messing around in photoshop I think. :)

Current plan for the lights is to just hook it up to a relay with a switch running into the dash. Switch on, lights on. Switch off, lights off. Not sure how that goes in terms of legality, but I imagine it should be fine since quite a few aftermarket kits use that exact setup.

with the foggies go to supercheap and get yourself a driving light kit for $15 (i think) and use that, thats what i used for my foggies

edit: btw looks good espeicalley for the price

Yeah... I will admit, it would have looked a lot better with the aero lip around the base but overall i'm pleased with the result as it looks a lot less stock, that and the bar only set me back $150, it was in perfect shape and it was only a few minutes drive away... how could I refuse? lol

Should look a lot better with a new paint job. I'm thinking of going over the entire car in black, the only problem I can see with that is the fact the Diamante bar grilles are also black and won't stand out afterward. Maybe I can repaint those as well, something a little different, maybe a chrome. Time to start messing around in photoshop I think. :)

Current plan for the lights is to just hook it up to a relay with a switch running into the dash. Switch on, lights on. Switch off, lights off. Not sure how that goes in terms of legality, but I imagine it should be fine since quite a few aftermarket kits use that exact setup.
Use a relay kit that you'll find at supercheap auto for like $20-$40, draw trigger power from your high beams and from the +ve side of your battery, ground the lights directly to the -ve terminal, anywhere else seemed to cause havoc with my car's electrical system (missed shifts, stalling, poor sound from system)

This is the 'legal' way to set up your lights. It's how I've done it and I can switch them on even with just my normal headlights, so I can be a prick any time :)


and whats all this pansy jibber talk about driving lights
who cares guys
just drive with them on or off.... there's worser things that you could do http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

illegal this illegal that ahhh http://www.viverge.fr/smileys/Doh.gif
I sorta agree... But this saves getting a massive fine for having them set up wrong, do it right the first time and you won't have dramas with the 5-0.

Hey dimi can you see if you can source the aero lip for me cos i might be able
to get a diamante bar without the aero lip but i really want the lip.....


Thanks mate much appreciated.

sure i'll phone around tomorrow!
anyone know what happened to josh the bloke never replies about the front bar
that i was helping him to source from nsw :think:

Ah so it is a separate piece... i'll call back around to the wreckers at some point and see if they have it there still, might be lucky.


btw man you need some alloy wheels
them chrome hubcaps are not the way to go (sorry for sounding mean but it's true)

Not mean at all, if anything I have to agree with you. lol The problem is that getting them costs a fair bit if new, still a fair bit if used, and I only really have $70 to throw around until the end of the year which I was going to spend on one of the cars numerous remaining problems, including:

- Stuffed Engine Mounts
- Whistling from the front (sounds like wheel bearings)
- Noisy lifters

Plus all the cosmetic stuff to go along with that, but after those repairs I won't have much left for even a window sticker let alone some alloys. :doubt:

hmmm well for future thought i reckon you should get some orange KS verada blinkers and some 16" or 17" alloys then lower it to look sporty and it'll look as nice as the jap one in the other photo :D

I'll go for the indicators first, since they would be the cheapest, maybe see if I can pick up a set of second hand alloys in good condition, etc.

All in time, don't have the money right now but I will soon enough, hopefully. :)

Maybe just to give it some credibility it should just run on the stock rims for now rather than trying to look like something decent. Just a thought. :P

yeah if you've got some stock alloys (anything but those hub caps) then whack them on?

Nah, I mean the stock grey/black tyre rims. I don't think this car ever had alloys on it. If I did have a set here they would be on already, I assure that.

Edit: The strange whistling from the front could also be tyre pressure related, I think the wheel bearings were done fairly recently. Have to inspect it over tomorrow.

Hey dimi,
Yeh see if you can sorce one for me ..or one already on the front bar and i might make it worth while for you..if you know what i mean...:) (sorry to overtake this thread magna 91......)

No problems, post ahead :), i'm pretty much done with the front bar talk anyway, it's on to the engine mounts now...

26 problems down, 9 to go. lol

For the record when I managed to get the old bar off, the chassis behind looked badly rusted or corroded, a quick sanding back and it came up like new though. Unfortunately the battery box wasn't the same case, I tapped it with a shifter and it crumbled into flakes of steel and powder. :P I had another one on hand from a wreckers car so I just dropped that in, good as new. The next lot of things to get done, in order of priority:


- New Engine Mounts
- Spark Plugs
- Ignition Leads
- Lifter-Free
- K&N Panel/Pod Filter
- Driving Light Kit
- KS Front Indicators & Tail Lights
- Panel Repair, Minor Dents
- Paint Repair or Full Body Respray

Which will probably take a while in terms of time and effort, the big financial investments seem to be on the cosmetic side. May seem like a lot for a TR Magna, but when you compare that list of 9 to the list of 26 completed repairs and enhancements, including a new radiator, new alternator, new struts, new valve stem seals (some of which was covered by insurance, thankfully :P)... it seems fairly logical to press on and complete what's been started.