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BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 11:33 AM
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ts3.0
25-11-2007, 11:36 AM
interesting, the amount of research you have done and trialling is impressive. wondering what the 3rd genners have to say about your mods

lenda
25-11-2007, 11:41 AM
Very nice job mate, looks like you have done quete a bit of research, and you know quite a bit about cars. Pacemaker extractors are good, hi flow cats are good if combined with a straight through and extractors. intake plenum and cams can either be bought of RPW or one of the members on here which are a bit cheaper but different build to RPW. i have an oval pod and it makes a difference but why 2 pods?

Ashneel
25-11-2007, 11:55 AM
but why 2 pods?

:stoopid:

why the 2 pods???

BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 11:58 AM
2 Pods - It's a hard question to answer.

It's too hot here atm to explain it but I'll try, there have been many idea's and thoughts with a twin setup of pods on seperate pipes but everyone agree'd that wouldn't work. Same with all the CAI idea's etc

My method I suppose compresses the two chambers, it sorta creates more of a punch in certain rev area's... With two you get some off the line draw lag, but then the air punches in thru both and you get a bit of a kick.

I found too, the longer the pod the more time it took to spool up, but too small-a pod causes problems in general, idle, general driving.

Ultimately I've tried 3 pods, 4" being the best (normal size). But for now I'm trialing the twin pod setup. To be honest I added the second front pod to get it closer to the front of the car for cooler air to come in, two pods also cools the air down a bit more as it has to go thru 2.

Cheers
Jamie

PS. It may be a useless setup, but everything is trial and error.

BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 12:13 PM
If you are just after growl, one thing I tried too..... I ran a 3.5" pbc pipe from the maf intake part out a bit, straight across the top of my intake manafold into a 4" pod which sad beside my air con fan belt.

(big pipe).... that makes a large growl. No performance gain, gears go higher up on revs before changing but yea... sounded kinda cool.

Ashneel
25-11-2007, 12:21 PM
but an open pod in an engine bay will not help no matter how many pods you put. its still goning to suck in hot air from the engine bay unless you have the pod sitting infron of a wide opening that allowing fresh outside air in.

putting two pods to get em closer to the front wont help much either. "cool air" goes through pod one which then goes through pod 2 thats sucking in hot engine bay air = to same result.

to get cooler air in to your intake you need a sealed box with a high flow filter with a pipe leading to the front of the car where it gets direct air from outside.

veradabeast
25-11-2007, 12:31 PM
1. Are there any special Fuel Injectors/the entire rail I can replace mine with that's better?

There's no point in replacing either the injectors or the rail unless you need to, ie. unless you're running a supercharger or turbocharger, it's unnecessary.


2. The Intake Manifold, I've heard alot about them, any custom ones I can get that look like stock but produce the gains?

You could look into RPW's replacement inlet plenum, or wait until EZBoy finishes his. Both are about the $1000 mark.


3. Any special cam's etc I can have fitted that will give bang for buck?

You can fit different cams, but don't expect any change from $1500, and you'll need an aftermarket ECU to make the best out of them.


4. IS there any bloody way to make the second front wheel pick up more slack? If you lack the car up (both front wheels), chuck it in drive the left wheel doesn't turn pretty much... little pivets, if you could get it to pick up more slack it'd probably help.

Fit an LSD. With the auto it's a bit difficult, as the only LSD suitable requires machining to fit.


5. Extractors down, worth replacing? seems like alot of effort...

If you've got the supporting mods, extractors are beneficial. They'll help out a particular part of the powerband, depending on the design.


6. A straight thru system exhaust wise, is that where you avoid the bends and curves the stock goes thru around the car? does it really make any diff?

Not really. It's designed to tuck up underneath the body, to protect it from damage.


7. High flow cat, would it make the exhaust louder? My magna flow sounds good, but it has a tinny burn sound around low to mid range revs, it's fine when it heats up but when cold I wanna shoot it, makes the car sound like a little bomb.

Maybe a bit. Pipe diameter has a lot to do with the exhaust tone, especially on smaller motors.


8. Anyone know where I can buy a custom done CAI (whole kit) that will stock hit into a magna.

RPW again. About the $400 mark.


9. Mine is a 1998 TE, what model's can I flog parts off? I want the cool lights front and back, I think they are the TJ or Verada ones. (my description doesn't help I know). Also after sports trims, side skirts, front etc.

You can get parts off TE, KE, TF, KF, TH and KH models.


10. The flat spots found in magna's which seems to be mostly air flow problems, any idea's....

There's a member on here, Barry, who makes a fuel rail kit, which, combined with a high flow panel filter, will almost eliminate the flat spots.


Most of all, LOW END TORQUE. All I want is to fix the off the line drag lag my magna gets..... surely someone must have an idea how to fix up that off the line 1st gear stuff.

The 3.0 was designed to rev a bit. The auto won't help either. If you want low end torque, any of the 3 versions of the 3.5L engine (147kW, 155kW and 180kW), or a supercharger, will help a lot.

BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 12:42 PM
I have trialed sealed cia's with the piping to the front and down under the car, they didn't seem to make any diff to things.

The only thing I've found is the closer your pods are to the engine the more u notice it..... but where they are now, a cai sealed..... runs no different.

After reviewing the RPW site, perhaps one of their proper pods which prevent the spool with the front intake peice is the way to go as they say on their site.

That and a larger throttle body. They are a bit on the exp side tho. :(

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 12:46 PM
I've also pulled out the little metal grills in the maf area to allow more air, risky due to stuff going into the engine but it helps.


How about purchasing a new MAF sensor that hasnt been ruined? The honeycomb is there for a reason.

That should resolve your airflow issue.

Also they stopped making TE's in May 97, so is it a TF or you just got the year wrong?

Black Beard
25-11-2007, 01:12 PM
Wow....... where to start :confused: .

I'm not even going to touch some of the things you have mentioned here (namely the turbo exhaust whistle, and the electric supercharger), but here goes:



The only thing I found is leave the intake resinators on, although they produce a nice sound and change the tone of the exhaust they also suck in hot air off the engine which is noticable performance wise.

Okay - leaving the intake resonators fitted is probably safest, but if you must remove them - for the love of god, you have to block the holes with something. Not only is it sucking in hot air from the engine bay - it is sucking in air after the MAF sensor meaning the ECU wasn't aware of how much air is actually entering the engine and it could very well have been running dangerously lean.


I've also pulled out the little metal grills in the maf area to allow more air, risky due to stuff going into the engine but it helps.

Your air filter (or in your case, filters) is there to stop "stuff going into the engine", the metal grill at the opening of the MAF is there for a different reason, and removing it probably wasn't wise. I'll touch on why a little later.


FUEL ECONOMY

Changes depending on what crap i'm doing the car, before I started it was getting 500-550 which is what it normally is.

ATM I'm getting like 400-450... mostly I predict thats from either my oil change or a clean fuel filter.

Firstly - give yourself a bit of credit mate, secondly there is no logical way that an oil change and fuel filter change could cause your fuel consumption to drop by ~100km / tank.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think your poor fuel economy is related to your air filter setup and the fact that you removed the honeycomb mesh from the MAF sensor, heres why;

- The mitsubishi MAF sensor is a very fussy instrument. It requires the air flowing thru it to be as free of turbulence as possible (ie: flowing straight, not swirling). By default, Pod filters are designed to introduce a swirling effect into the air intake - which can be beneficial on cars not fitted with MAF sensors. In addition to this - the honeycomb mesh section from the MAF sensor is supposedly designed to "straighten" the flow of air immediately before it passes thru the sensor. Your configuration of round pod filters + no honeycomb section on the MAF sensor basically means that your MAF sensor has no chance of working properly and as a result - it is my opinion that your engine management system is supplying too much fuel for the air that is entering the engine, causing your car to run rich, and give horrible fuel consumption.

Just out of curiosity - do you notice any signs of black smoke in your rear view mirror when you stomp on the accelerator (or is there black stains on your rear bumper above the exhaust)?



After having my CV joint done however, they replaced all the transmission fluid effectively and now the gears are perfectly smooth which is odd. So maybe it was a mix of both? stuffed CV plus needed a change of transmission fluid.

Definitely sounds like your trans fluid was cactus before your CV replacement. As general rule - magna automatics will let you know when they need a fluid flush / renew


I intend on putting the stock air intake setup back in,

I think that is a very very good idea. If you really feel the need to have a pod filter (and lets be honest - lots of people do, myself included), then I suggest getting your hands on an Oval K&N pod filter which is specially designed for the mitsubishi MAF sensor (apparently the oval shape of it doesn't cause as much swirling of air as the round pods).


1. Are there any special Fuel Injectors/the entire rail I can replace mine with that's better?

Your car is a 3L so you could upgrade to 3.5L injectors which will be a straight swap. Having said that - there would be absolutely nothing to be gained from doing this unless you had done extensive performance work which had rendered your standard injectors inadequate


2. The Intake Manifold, I've heard alot about them, any custom ones I can get that look like stock but produce the gains?

Currently you can get "custom" plennum chambers from RPW at a cost of about $1000 + freight, or you can wait until EZ boy has put his plennum chamber design into production.


3. Any special cam's etc I can have fitted that will give bang for buck?

As someone else has already mentioned - you can get Ralliart cams from mitsubishi for around $400 for the pair (apparently), or again you can go with RPW stage 1 cams at around $1100 / pair.


4. IS there any bloody way to make the second front wheel pick up more slack? If you lack the car up (both front wheels), chuck it in drive the left wheel doesn't turn pretty much... little pivets, if you could get it to pick up more slack it'd probably help.

No idea what you're referring to with this one


5. Extractors down, worth replacing? seems like alot of effort...

Again - I'm not quite sure what you mean here.


6. A straight thru system exhaust wise, is that where you avoid the bends and curves the stock goes thru around the car? does it really make any diff?

Straight thru refers to the design of the rear muffler, where the exhaust pipe goes "straight thru" the muffler as opposed to a baffled design where one pipe enters a chamber in the exhaust, and the air has to find its way into another chamber before it can exit the muffler thru the outlet pipe(s). Your "magnaflow exhaust" would most likely incorporate a straight thru rear muffler


7. High flow cat, would it make the exhaust louder? My magna flow sounds good, but it has a tinny burn sound around low to mid range revs, it's fine when it heats up but when cold I wanna shoot it, makes the car sound like a little bomb.

Generally - a high flow cat will not make a difference to the sound of the car through the exhaust, however if your stock Cat is rooted (which may account for the sound you are describing) it would be worthwhile replacing and as a general rule - aftermarket "hi flow" cats are the cheapest ones anyway. An exhaust fitter should be able to tell you if the sound you are experiencing is related to a cat with busted insides.


8. Anyone know where I can buy a custom done CAI (whole kit) that will stock hit into a magna.

RPW sell them, including the K&N oval filter for about $550 from memory, alternatively you can do a search on these forums for an "NZ CAI", or do a search for "DIY CAI" and you will no doubt find dozens of posts describing how to plumb cold air into your stock airbox on a budget of less than $50


10. The flat spots found in magna's which seems to be mostly air flow problems, any idea's....

Again - I think going back to the factory air intake might give you an improvement in this area. If you're still not satisfied do a search for Barrys fuel rail mod for some good info on what can be done to eliminate the "flat spot"


-- Most of all, LOW END TORQUE. All I want is to fix the off the line drag lag my magna gets..... surely someone must have an idea how to fix up that off the line 1st gear stuff.

4spd auto equipped magnas have horribly long 1st and 2nd gears. A manual conversion is by far the best cure, but not cheap or particularly easy.

*phew* - thats about all I've got to say at the moment.

BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 02:33 PM
Black Beard, I think you got a little ahead of yourself on a few of those questions.... one being the intake resinators.... hence my mention of the mini pods in my first post.

Nobody can drive their car without "something" covering those holes as 90% of the time it will just cut out.

With reguards to black smoke out the exhaust, obviously air/fuel mixture gives that way.... but no at the moment with my twin pods it is fine.

With reguards to fuel economy, I heed your statement about the MAF sensor and mesh.... as I said, I will be basically just purchasing a whole new stock intake setup for my magna as it ran best (fuel wise) and that...... with the stock setup.

With regurds to the High Flow cat and comment maybe mine is stuffed..... well usually when they are dead they for a better word stop doing their job and produce a rather foul egg smell out the exhaust and mine isn't doing that? But perhaps you could be right, my resinator had holes in it when i got it cut off the exhaust line.

And to quote...... I think the whole "better then me" attitude is why you got ahead of yourself here. I've done my homework champ.

PS. I'll stay out of the manual/auto argument altogether i thinks.

Black Beard
25-11-2007, 02:49 PM
Black Beard, I think you got a little ahead of yourself on a few of those questions.... one being the intake resinators.... hence my mention of the mini pods in my first post.

Fair enough - I didn't pick that up. *edit* - what the hell am I saying....... mini pods or not it's still ****ed!!!! you are letting air bypass the MAF sensor.


With reguards to black smoke out the exhaust, obviously air/fuel mixture gives that way.... but no at the moment with my twin pods it is fine.

No black smoke doesn't necessarily mean everything's "fine", but anyway.


And to quote...... I think the whole "better then me" attitude is why you got ahead of yourself here. I've done my homework champ.



FYI "Champ" - I didn't spend 1/2 an hour replying to your original post with the intention of making myself sound better than you, but if you want to take it that way, fair enough - I'll save us both any further wasted time by not trying to help you in future.

Articuno
25-11-2007, 03:20 PM
I've done my homework champ.


Judging by your post, you have not done SFA "homework". You may want to listen to Blackbead, as he knows what he talking about.



4. IS there any bloody way to make the second front wheel pick up more slack? If you lack the car up (both front wheels), chuck it in drive the left wheel doesn't turn pretty much... little pivets, if you could get it to pick up more slack it'd probably help.

Are you referring to a Limited Slip Differential? Because if so, these puppies will cost approx $2,000 just for the unit.

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 03:23 PM
And to quote...... I think the whole "better then me" attitude is why you got ahead of yourself here. I've done my homework champ.


http://www.tdaxp.com/images/medium_tool_lateralus.jpg

Articuno
25-11-2007, 03:25 PM
http://www.tdaxp.com/images/medium_tool_lateralus.jpg

what the hell is that?

[TUFFTR]
25-11-2007, 03:27 PM
Maybe he's a tool?

Trotty
25-11-2007, 03:28 PM
I bet if you actually did a search you would find the answers to all your questions.....

So did your research did you?
I think you should have stayed a visitor....:gtfo:

Sorry but you sound like a tosser! Oh look at my turbo whistle tip, C'mon?
Read your first post and then take a look at yourself...........

Articuno
25-11-2007, 03:29 PM
']Maybe he's a tool?

Oh, i get it now... lol

Dont i look like a knob now.:redface:

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 03:29 PM
']Maybe he's a tool?

I didnt say a word. :)

Wonder if hes related to this (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50905) dude?

[TUFFTR]
25-11-2007, 03:31 PM
With all the money spent on turbo whistles, pod filters, and electric superchargers, you could of got a nice set of extractors, and RPW inlet plenum. Probably an interceptor too and with a good tune could of got some decent results.
If you have done "all this research" why is it you have TWO pod filters? That is so funny....

Edit* Lolllllllllllllllllll

Trotty
25-11-2007, 03:34 PM
And failed to read ANYWHERE that removing the mesh in the MAF is asking for trouble.....:nuts:

[TUFFTR]
25-11-2007, 03:36 PM
And failed to read ANYWHERE that removing the mesh in the MAF is asking for trouble.....:nuts:

nah man, see, less restriction = more kwatw's
(like removing the mesh is actually going to give you heart stopping power)
Whould just rip off the inlet plenum and run 6 pipes right from the inlet manifold to its own pod filter.

andrewd
25-11-2007, 03:40 PM
your supposed to take out the intake resonator and put the turbo whistle in there.

that way it wont stall, and you'll dose!

:P

andrewd
25-11-2007, 03:42 PM
']nah man, see, less restriction = more kwatw's
(like removing the mesh is actually going to give you heart stopping power)
Whould just rip off the inlet plenum and run 6 pipes right from the inlet manifold to its own pod filter.


i had that set up, 6 ram tubes and 6 exhausts..... made way more power than the s/c did but ingested too many birds and small children..... epa didnt like it either lol


seriously though

car looks alright.... put the stock standard intake system back on it and it'll be a million times better $50 says it would make more power be quicker better on fuel and quieter too!

Spackbace
25-11-2007, 03:54 PM
research would have said:
a) theyre called parabolic headlights... that word must be in every post about headlights here
b) ebay $20 thing is crud... again has been done to death
c) electric supercharger... again done to death
d) air intakes... *sigh* god knows how many CAI threads there are here (more than the above combined thats for sure)
e) to talk to RPW about many mods to a magna
f) to avoid ralliart stickers at all costs
g) that an auto 4spd 3L will take a hellova lot of mods to even beat a manual 3.5L
h) red mudflaps look gay
i) clear side indicators
j) straight thru mufflers... explained many times
k) to listen to people who have more mods than you (BlackBeard has a twin turbo 3.5L... try to show some respect)
l) to try to not make ur first 5 posts on a forum to make u sound like a tool
m) that a manual conversion or 3.5L conversion would net better results



got halfway thru the alphabet, cbf doing more :P

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 03:58 PM
g) that an auto 4spd 3L will take a hellova lot of mods to even beat an AUTO 3.5L


Fixed it for you spacky.

ts3.0
25-11-2007, 04:03 PM
83? this car reminds me of a learners before they get their p's trying to get it all riced up. its stock with rims and a ralliart sticker, no time spent on the important things like lowering, tint, colour coding and so on. and the whole 2 pods, electric supercharger thing and all the other mods seems like such a 16yo thing to do. quite distasteful

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 04:15 PM
Sweet ****ing jesus.

I feel as if your engine bay has raped my eyes.

Your car lacks any form of taste, honestly.

Seriously... Just holy **** man... What were you smoking when you did half of this!?

Hollowed out MAF? Dual pods?!

To top it off, your bull**** know it all attitude is sickening.

:gtfo:

Black Beard
25-11-2007, 04:16 PM
(BlackBeard has a twin turbo 3.5L... try to show some respect)


Thanks Spacky, but 'tis cool. Respect is something that is earned, and while I would hope most long term members would respect my opinions - I've never had anything to do with this bloke before today, and I can see how the first line of my post might have been a little bit condescending.

Anyway - just wanted to say that in my opinion, they OP doesn't seem to be a complete "tool" and probably doesn't deserve to be ragged on too much lol . I actually thought some of his observations were pretty interesting, particularly regarding the spark plugs, and you have to give him a bit of credit to have the balls to experiment so many different things on his own car.

And with the exception of only a few members that I can think off, we were pretty much magna n00bs when we first joined AMC :redface:

ts3.0
25-11-2007, 04:17 PM
Sweet ****ing jesus.

I feel as if your engine bay has raped my eyes.

Your car lacks any form of taste, honestly.

Seriously... Just holy **** man... What were you smoking when you did half of this!?

Hollowed out MAF? Dual pods?!

To top it off, your bull**** know it all attitude is sickening.

:gtfo:

haha thats what i was trying to say, well put as always

Trotty
25-11-2007, 04:18 PM
Reading it hurts my ears? LOL

BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 04:36 PM
first off wtf is with idiots with second gen old peices of **** posting in third gen stuff?

Second off, haven't seen any magna beat mine yet..... that includes sports & vrx editions. Magna's I laugh at who try to drag me....... personally i look only to improve my car to beat the x6 utes and commodores etc. Magna's are a joke, nobody knows how to bloody drive them, that includes all u fags i bet.

Third, wtf it seems I'm surrounded by a bunch of commodore drivers a bunch of d*ckheads.

D*ckheads and their manual talk..... sh*t....... after some decent "suggestions" and all i get is a pack of think they know all w*nkers.

f this, going back to work on the damn car. forget it, 1 more stupid post..... i'll just wipe my original posting and be done with this forum. no need for me to sit here and waste my time reading sh*t.

cya

[TUFFTR]
25-11-2007, 04:40 PM
first off wtf is with idiots with second gen old peices of **** posting in third gen stuff?

Second off, haven't seen any magna beat mine yet..... that includes sports & vrx editions. Magna's I laugh at who try to drag me....... personally i look only to improve my car to beat the x6 utes and commodores etc. Magna's are a joke, nobody knows how to bloody drive them, that includes all u fags i bet.

Third, wtf it seems I'm surrounded by a bunch of commodore drivers a bunch of d*ckheads.

D*ckheads and their manual talk..... sh*t....... after some decent "suggestions" and all i get is a pack of think they know all w*nkers.

f this, going back to work on the damn car. forget it, 1 more stupid post..... i'll just wipe my original posting and be done with this forum. no need for me to sit here and waste my time reading sh*t.

cya

:bowrofl:
Yeah sure, your 3L Auto is a friggin powerhouse isnt it. When are you going to put the VTEC chip in?
Ever dragged a real car?
What are you going to work on? Pull the ****ing sticker off and take off those homosexual red mudflaps.
lower your car. color code it.

bet you people on here think my car is a better piece of **** then your piece of ****.
****ing idiot.
Go back to your race proven electric superchargers.
wanker

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 04:42 PM
first off wtf is with idiots with second gen old peices of **** posting in third gen stuff?

Second off, haven't seen any magna beat mine yet..... that includes sports & vrx editions. Magna's I laugh at who try to drag me....... personally i look only to improve my car to beat the x6 utes and commodores etc. Magna's are a joke, nobody knows how to bloody drive them, that includes all u fags i bet.

Third, wtf it seems I'm surrounded by a bunch of commodore drivers a bunch of d*ckheads.

D*ckheads and their manual talk..... sh*t....... after some decent "suggestions" and all i get is a pack of think they know all w*nkers.

f this, going back to work on the damn car. forget it, 1 more stupid post..... i'll just wipe my original posting and be done with this forum. no need for me to sit here and waste my time reading sh*t.

cya
That's really rich coming from a riced up automatic third gen owner, top stuff, I weep for the future of the gene pool knowing you have actually reproduced.

You haven't seen a car beat yours yet BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS ****ING TRYING TO RACE YOU!!!!! It's not fast and the furious every time you pull up at the lights! Mr XR6T doesn't want to waste his 98 RON fuel on your Magna!

And don't put it to BlackBeard that he talks "manual ****", he's got a twin turbo setup you imbecile, go back to Autobarn and buy some more neons so you can represent down the strip and show up some Excels or something.

AMC will not miss you.

:gtfo:

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 04:42 PM
Yep.

I stopped reading after you claimed your 3L auto beats anything lol

I dare say some of the 2nd Gen "piece of ****" manuals will spank your car.

veradabeast
25-11-2007, 04:47 PM
I think someone needs to be banned.

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 04:49 PM
Just quoting the original post, incase this wanker wipes it as he suggested.


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Hey Guys.

I've been reading up here at AussieForums for like over a year but never joined as such so I've joined now, posted a few pics of my ride.

Details:

1998 Mitsubshi Magna 3.0L V6, 24 Valve. FWD Auto $7000
18" Viper Shade Mag's $2000 fitted with tires
2.5" MagnaFlow Exhaust with resinator removed $ 260 all up (nice)
Turbo Whistle mounted in Exhaust tip $60 with postage, took bout 60 mins to fit, trying to drill thru my exhaust!
3.5" long pod filter with a 3" Regular size pod inside the front of the 3.5" (air intake) - Around $130 for both
Long red neon's down each side of the car, managed by the neon control which is on my dash. $180 for the kit
AudioMaster CD/MP3 Player, 4x50w with Sub Out $160
12" Sub in the boot with a Response 80Watt 2-channel amp, setup as 200W combined mono. $280
Blue neons top and bottom of the CD Player, 2 med size neons under each of the front drive/passenger sides feet area. $120
Custom Window Wiper(blue) with the nice quiet exp wiper blades. $80
Rallyart stickers front and back window $60
Brake Clippers - Painted Hot Red (heat sisistant paint obviously) $60
Painted the front mud flaps red while I was going.
Bendix Break Pads $60+

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Some info on my times with the magna:

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INTAKE

In search for performance I have tried lots of things, all diff pods, mini pods to replace the intake resinators, sealed cai's ....

The only thing I found is leave the intake resinators on, although they produce a nice sound and change the tone of the exhaust they also suck in hot air off the engine which is noticable performance wise.

I tried the MAF Sensor Ebay performance chip ($60), no instructions on how to put it on, tried lots off diff combo's with the 5 wire maf.... and it didn't make any diff. Little resisitor was a waste of time.

I tried the ForceFlow Brushless Supercharger $600, it works fine, but had problems. It drained too much power, I had to remove their 80amp fuse, chuck a 120amp circut breaker on just to get it to go properly. Problem I had then was at night the headlights dimmed when the supercharger came on as it drew too much power and during the day without the headlight drain it spun too fast causing the propellor to come off. After a warranty and another break I sent that back got a refund. It did work great when it worked, but it
effectively kept breaking every few days = useless, costly and time waste.

I've also pulled out the little metal grills in the maf area to allow more air, risky due to stuff going into the engine but it helps.

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SPARK PLUGS

Tried most of them, all diff recommendations from diff places. The ingridim ones (not sure how you spell it), as most commodores use I found were absolute crap..... didn't last, fuel economy dropped etc. The standard NGK seem to be the best. Still looking for some

decent platinum plugs (bosh dont seem to fit)....

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OTHER GEAR

I just had my CV done on my drivers side, it was stuffed, I think mostly because I towed a trailer weighing by default 1.46tonne,

totally loaded weighted around 3 tonne... that was a few months ago, as we know magna's are only rated to pull 1.5tonne.

The CV cost me $280 fitted for my drivers side.

I replaced the Fuel filter and Oil filter myself recently thanks to the help of these forums, went well... will be easier to do second time around :D

I also did my break pads myself via this forum, painted my clippers while I was at it. (painful process). 2 days work for me.... first time doing it.

------------------------

FUEL ECONOMY

Changes depending on what crap i'm doing the car, before I started it was getting 500-550 which is what it normally is.

ATM I'm getting like 400-450... mostly I predict thats from either my oil change or a clean fuel filter.

Both are heavy footed, but I suppose more heavy now then when i first got it.

I run 10-40 GTX 3 Oil, I was thinking of changing to 5-50 Shell Ulimate Syntetic stuff.

Shell V-Power is the best for magna's, noticeable over all other fuels including the BP Ultimate.

------------------------

TRANSMISSION

My auto was shocking leaving it in auto and driving it, the gear clunks etc. I never did anything about it, I drive it manually myself (become habit)... That was doesn't rely on computer to change gears and it works good.

After having my CV joint done however, they replaced all the transmission fluid effectively and now the gears are perfectly smooth which is odd. So maybe it was a mix of both? stuffed CV plus needed a change of transmission fluid.

PS. My car squeaks too at the high rev end, must be belt slip like pplz say.

------------------------

Ok. I've spent a year reading, so here's my questions I haven't found answered.

I would like to mod my car out performance wise without for a better word making it "illegal", cops are a pain in the **** especially around the Gold Coast in particular.

I intend on putting the stock air intake setup back in, as pods are hated by those idiots. So questions:

1. Are there any special Fuel Injectors/the entire rail I can replace mine with that's better?

2. The Intake Manifold, I've heard alot about them, any custom ones I can get that look like stock but produce the gains?

3. Any special cam's etc I can have fitted that will give bang for buck?

4. IS there any bloody way to make the second front wheel pick up more slack? If you lack the car up (both front wheels), chuck it in drive the left wheel doesn't turn pretty much... little pivets, if you could get it to pick up more slack it'd probably help.

5. Extractors down, worth replacing? seems like alot of effort...

6. A straight thru system exhaust wise, is that where you avoid the bends and curves the stock goes thru around the car? does it really make any diff?

7. High flow cat, would it make the exhaust louder? My magna flow sounds good, but it has a tinny burn sound around low to mid range revs, it's fine when it heats up but when cold I wanna shoot it, makes the car sound like a little bomb.

8. Anyone know where I can buy a custom done CAI (whole kit) that will stock hit into a magna.

9. Mine is a 1998 TE, what model's can I flog parts off? I want the cool lights front and back, I think they are the TJ or Verada ones. (my description doesn't help I know). Also after sports trims, side skirts, front etc.

10. The flat spots found in magna's which seems to be mostly air flow problems, any idea's....

-- Most of all, LOW END TORQUE. All I want is to fix the off the line drag lag my magna gets..... surely someone must have an idea how to fix up that off the line 1st gear stuff.


No dyno charts for you guys, stock wise it's 140kw engine i guess, exhaust made it a bit faster, no idea how much tho.

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So there you have it. Comments, suggestions, links, pictures.... let me have it.

[TUFFTR]
25-11-2007, 04:50 PM
lol @ towing 3 Ton. Magnas are rated at 800kg.

Articuno
25-11-2007, 04:51 PM
I find it amusing that he thinks that we are the ones with attitude problems. lol

And of course he must know more about these cars than the combined knowledge of a MAGNA community. silly us...:bowrofl:

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 04:51 PM
Someone screencap this thread lol

turbo_charade
25-11-2007, 04:56 PM
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT, AWESOME WORK

MRMGNA
25-11-2007, 05:03 PM
Dont laugh guys.

I think hes on to something.

Needs more pod filter tho.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5559/loggllerxi4.jpg

eaglerock18
25-11-2007, 05:03 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a252/old323/pregnant1.jpg

seriously guys!! don't you that school holidays started??

this sounds alot like roger cordia....... for those of you that don't know who it is goole him.....

Trotty
25-11-2007, 05:12 PM
I wonder how many psi his electic charger made..... 100psi @ the exhaust tip!:bowrofl:
does wheelstands i'm told....lol

ts3.0
25-11-2007, 05:13 PM
think they know it all? who knows better than the collective of the magna club of australia?

turbo_charade
25-11-2007, 05:13 PM
After the flamming you just gave AM, I like you bigdaddysuperaidssummerof69. Tell it like it is. :D

BJ31OS
25-11-2007, 05:13 PM
Dont laugh guys.

I think hes on to something.

Needs more pod filter tho.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5559/loggllerxi4.jpg



love it :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Trotty
25-11-2007, 05:16 PM
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 16 (13 members and 3 guests)

All in stitches.....:bowrofl:

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 05:17 PM
http://www.operations.mod.uk/fresco/images/13nov_crawley1.jpg

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 05:18 PM
http://www.operations.mod.uk/fresco/images/13nov_crawley1.jpg
Kill it with fire, etc.

Sports
25-11-2007, 05:23 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This thread has got a 1 star raiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 05:24 PM
Aii make dem dere break clippers all painty n purdy liek....

Mah pawd filtarz maik mah kar fast as a cat wit a fire kraker in its beeehind..

http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/redneck_mentor.jpg

Trotty
25-11-2007, 05:24 PM
Thats better..... HAHA

NORBY
25-11-2007, 05:28 PM
dude, my stock grandpa spec cressida would rape that ****

but seriously, i wish i could be so hardcore and race commodores cos they are SO fast... like unbelieveably...

Sports
25-11-2007, 05:30 PM
I'm just pushing refresh and watching the new posts of crap lol

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 05:31 PM
I'm just pushing refresh and watching the new posts of crap lol

i think thats what everybody is doing lmao.

MRMGNA
25-11-2007, 05:31 PM
I'm just pushing refresh and watching the new posts of crap lol

Same hahaha :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

EDIT: think i need to do a few more photo chops lol

Articuno
25-11-2007, 05:35 PM
This thread needs more cowbell!

MRMGNA
25-11-2007, 05:40 PM
Better ???

FLOWER POWER!!!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5507/lotllllde5.jpg

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 05:41 PM
You'll give him ideas with those decals....

Edit: TWIN POD POWAH!!

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4283/llamacaryg5.jpg

Trotty
25-11-2007, 05:42 PM
Pure Unadulterated Cowbell:bowrofl:

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 05:44 PM
Sigh.

This thread sucks even more now... gone way downhill.

Articuno
25-11-2007, 05:46 PM
Sigh.

This thread sucks even more now... gone way downhill.

It had some credibility to begin with? :nuts:

Matt
25-11-2007, 05:48 PM
wish i had a magna :cry:

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 05:49 PM
wish i had a magna :cry:

U can have mine :D

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 05:50 PM
It had some credibility to begin with? :nuts:
Hence why I said "even more".

It's wave after wave of poor photochops that kill it... Flogging a dead horse if you will.

Meh, OP is a ********, what can you do.

Articuno
25-11-2007, 05:52 PM
Hence why I said "even more".



Touche

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 05:53 PM
Mods, any chance of a sticky? :P Jk

Yeah i think this thread will be laid to rest shortly... was good for a laugh anyway.

MRMGNA
25-11-2007, 05:58 PM
some people are just as bad as the rest on here.

Articuno
25-11-2007, 05:59 PM
Is this the guy that tried to sign up a month ago and tim clicked no on the application and the guy had a huge hissy fit? Seems to have the same up-high attitude.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 06:06 PM
Wouldnt surprise me... but i thought most magna drivers were like that anyway? :p

BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 06:30 PM
it's amazing how many idiot posts there after posting couple of questions. well i guess all guys into cars are just faggots then huh.

i'll go back to my not posting and just get from here what i need.

it's tools like you that get left at the lights..... with that said, cya. i'll remove my first post, not worth posting in this forum period. just a bunch of fags.

Trotty
25-11-2007, 06:31 PM
Bye Bye....:gtfo:

BigDaddyCool1983
25-11-2007, 06:35 PM
lol ****en 2nd gen sh*t lol

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 06:37 PM
Original Post here:

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=798434&postcount=38

MRMGNA
25-11-2007, 06:38 PM
HAHAAH 18s with stock ride height hahahahaha

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 06:41 PM
HAHAHAHA "Fast" 3L Auto :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Articuno
25-11-2007, 06:42 PM
well i guess all guys into cars are just faggots then huh.



You realise you just called yourself a faggot?

Trotty
25-11-2007, 06:43 PM
It's funny my 2nd gen ***** would probly munch your's with all that crap on it... HAHA

Magna Rookie
25-11-2007, 06:44 PM
']lol @ towing 3 Ton. Magnas are rated at 800kg.


My owners manual says 1500kg..?

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 06:44 PM
You realise you just called yourself a faggot?

Fag?.....Never lol

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5507/lotllllde5.jpg

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 06:45 PM
lol ****en 2nd gen sh*t lol
It's kind of funny... That's the best you can come up with, please elaborate, you prodigal son of the Rice Gods themselves. Time to huff some more paint and restart painting your clippers... There's a lot of area to cover with pink you know.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 06:49 PM
lol ****en 2nd gen sh*t lol

Lmao... i just imagine a hillbilly accent everytime he posts now..

Trotty
25-11-2007, 06:51 PM
I like the bit about the spark plugs.... Prolly only changin the front 3......
i wonder if he even knows about the rear bank?:bowrofl:

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 06:52 PM
I like the bit about the spark plugs.... Prolly only changin the front 3......
i wonder if he even knows about the rear bank?:bowrofl:

What rear bank would that be? ANZ or commonwealth?

Its good that he's re-used all the old mods off his previously owned VN commodore...

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 06:58 PM
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4263/clipboard01ek0.jpg

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 07:00 PM
BAHAHAHAHA.......

Now THAT would not surpise me one bit at all......

He seems to fit the description.

eaglerock18
25-11-2007, 07:02 PM
hey he can't stop posting yet!!!

we haven't finished making fun of him....

Trotty
25-11-2007, 07:02 PM
I think he has OFFICIALLY LEFT THE BUILDING!

BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Not a minute to soon.....:rant:

Matt
25-11-2007, 07:02 PM
look Mrbigdaddycool1983 dont worry about all these non-beleivers. I like YOU! I done alot of research into non-mainstream aftermarket automotive performance accessories or as i like to call them "NMAAPA's" MANY years ago, and the attitutude of un-informed people is always the same. After hundreds of dollars of research i discovered the perfect combination of different spark plugs per cylinder paired up with different size injectors and air/flow restrictors. I called this system the "VVIIARS". In addition to this system i found that the recommended oil level is way too high and the car would operate fine on just 1 litre for motor, and 1.5 for auto gearbox. This significantly reduced the drag created by the motor and the performance increase was phenomenal. I approached Mitsubishi with many ideas and together we worked to develop called MIVEC. which im sure you've heard of. Just keep at it and one day the right person will notice and make u a millionaire.

Trotty
25-11-2007, 07:05 PM
look Mrbigdaddycool1983 dont worry about all these non-beleivers. I like YOU! I done alot of research into non-mainstream aftermarket automotive performance accessories or as i like to call them "NMAAPA's" MANY years ago, and the attitutude of un-informed people is always the same. After hundreds of dollars of research i discovered the perfect combination of different spark plugs per cylinder paired up with different size injectors and air/flow restrictors. I called this system the "VVIIARS". In addition to this system i found that the recommended oil level is way too high and the car would operate fine on just 1 litre for motor, and 1.5 for auto gearbox. This significantly reduced the drag created by the motor and the performance increase was phenomenal. I approached Mitsubishi with many ideas and together we worked to develop called MIVEC. which im sure you've heard of. Just keep at it and one day the right person will notice and make u a millionaire.


Now ur just makin fun... Stop it!:badgrin:

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 07:13 PM
Now ur just makin fun... Stop it!:badgrin:
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

Trotty
25-11-2007, 07:14 PM
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

Ok chris.....:redface:

Neo
25-11-2007, 07:24 PM
What the hell is this thread? It should be deleted and never spoken of again.

[TUFFTR]
25-11-2007, 07:27 PM
it's amazing how many idiot posts there after posting couple of questions. well i guess all guys into cars are just faggots then huh.

i'll go back to my not posting and just get from here what i need.

it's tools like you that get left at the lights..... with that said, cya. i'll remove my first post, not worth posting in this forum period. just a bunch of fags.

Yep, We all get left at the lights from 3L auto magnas with electric superchargers, Ebay "mod" chips and turbo whistles.
**** i envy your beast of a car.

Btw its not worth posting in this forum because you got given advice from some members with a ton of knowledge and you thought you were better then them. So if your going to talk down to well known members piss off.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 07:29 PM
POLL: Who's worse?

A: Eric
B: This guy
C: Both are one and the same person

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 07:31 PM
POLL: Who's worse?

A: Eric
B: This guy
C: Both are one and the same person

B.

Eric was at least funny in his own unique way. This guy just touches 5 year olds, after all he is BIGDADDY.

Honestly would you trust this guy alone with your kids?

http://www.8ball.co.uk/productimages/30055-2.jpg

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 07:47 PM
B.

Eric was at least funny in his own unique way. This guy just touches 5 year olds, after all he is BIGDADDY.

Honestly would you trust this guy alone with your kids?


LMFAO!

Yeah i guess thats true lol. Eric wasn't really that much of a menace... he was just good for a laugh.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
25-11-2007, 07:49 PM
']
**** i envy your beast of a car.

He's nearly got as much rice as you mate.

turbo_charade
25-11-2007, 08:32 PM
Yeah i think this thread will be laid to rest shortly... was good for a laugh anyway.
Yeah thank god for closing threads, without closing this thread the forum would fall apart!!! I mean look at it now, its open and it is just not even worth visiting and you cant even click links. oh the humanity :doubt:

Lucifer
25-11-2007, 08:32 PM
**deleted**

That's his email... GO GO GO GO GO GO GO

:bowrofl:

Ashneel
25-11-2007, 08:37 PM
****ING LOL

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:



http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4263/clipboard01ek0.jpg

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 08:48 PM
**deleted**

That's his email... GO GO GO GO GO GO GO

:bowrofl:

Just sent them some business correspondence.....

**deleted**


Hi, I am looking for something to improve my performance. I am led to believe that a dual core 3.0GHz is not as fast as a "dual pod" 3.0L Magna.

I am currently running an XR6Turbo and recently my mates Automatic 3.0L Magna blew me away at the lights, albeit he obviously had more power as he has electronic superchargers and rice stickers on his windscreen.

If you could please provide a quote for an upgrade, It woud be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou for your time.

BJ31OS
25-11-2007, 08:50 PM
Just sent them some business correspondence.....

**deleted**

Hi, I am looking for something to improve my performance. I am led to believe that a dual core 3.0GHz is not as fast as a "dual pod" 3.0L Magna.

I am currently running an XR6Turbo and recently my mates Automatic 3.0L Magna blew me away at the lights, albeit he obviously had more power as he has electronic superchargers and rice stickers on his windscreen.

If you could please provide a quote for an upgrade, It woud be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou for your time.


:bowrofl: cant wait to see the reply :bowrofl:

ts3.0
25-11-2007, 08:51 PM
haha nice

Gas_Hed
25-11-2007, 08:53 PM
Man, somebody from Brisbane should go visit his workplace :)

Mrmacomouto
25-11-2007, 09:26 PM
How did I miss this!

Hedgie2
25-11-2007, 10:41 PM
I always miss teh classic threads before they are locked :rant:

Got this one in time though :bowrofl:

BigDaddyCool1983
26-11-2007, 06:49 AM
Right this has gone a bit far......

Your breaching some privacy laws and I'll be following this up as harrasing my workplace is not going to be tollerated.

Gas_Hed
26-11-2007, 07:17 AM
Right this has gone a bit far......

Your breaching some privacy laws and I'll be following this up as harrasing my workplace is not going to be tollerated.

You signed up to a public forum, and gave your email address for all to see, then whinge when people contact you.

Sue me.

MicJaiy
26-11-2007, 07:29 AM
Right this has gone a bit far......
You think??



Your breaching some privacy laws and I'll be following this up as harrasing my workplace is not going to be tollerated.
Good luck with that!! :gtfoslap:



Why isn't this guy banned and this thread closed yet??

Neo
26-11-2007, 08:00 AM
Those PODs look restrictive thats for sure, why not just take the piping off at the throttle body. Then get rid of that exhaust manifold, zero backpressure!!!! ZERO!!

Will be able to beat 5.7's after that easy!!!!!!