The awd magna is probably the worst value performance modifier yet

This car is now going into stupid money modification just to get somewhere near 13's

Here's another list of better performing cars for less money

2000 VT HSV GTS 300

2005 Lancer Evo8

1992 Corvette

1990 Porsche Carrera

2000 WRX Club Spec Evo4

All of these could get 13 second qtrs with only a little coaxing, and for a couple of grand extra probably see 12 seconds.

Magnas suck yes?
In the end yours is way more unqiue.
just sucks that you could have like a 10sec old car for that money.

you forgot the cressida, for 15k your running low 13's day in day out

It's just a magna bro.... I have to keep telling myself. you want fun get a seccond car.

Not gunna happen here, today, next week, or even next year.:doubt:

No1 wants to touch these cars for 1, not to mention the looks you get.... when you say like,Oh i got a magna, and i want to make it go faster....:nuts: :gtfo: of my workshop.

It's just a magna bro.... I have to keep telling myself. you want fun get a seccond car.

Not gunna happen here, today, next week, or even next year.:doubt:

No1 wants to touch these cars for 1, not to mention the looks you get.... when you say like,Oh i got a magna, and i want to make it go faster....:nuts: :gtfo: of my workshop.

someone left his account not logged-out of on his PC

I do appologise for any harm self inflicted to one's self, now the truth is out there, Moulder...

The awd magna is probably the worst value performance modifier yet

This car is now going into stupid money modification just to get somewhere near 13's

Here's another list of better performing cars for less money

2000 VT HSV GTS 300

2005 Lancer Evo8

1992 Corvette

1990 Porsche Carrera

2000 WRX Club Spec Evo4

All of these could get 13 second qtrs with only a little coaxing, and for a couple of grand extra probably see 12 seconds.
EVO 8 will run low 13's stock. Another $3k and you're in 12's.

Surely you knew the magna would be a hard battle tho?

EVO 8 will run low 13's stock. Another $3k and you're in 12's.

Surely you knew the magna would be a hard battle tho?

A ridiculously hard and almost pointless battle it is.

But the look on the HSV and FPV drivers' faces when a crap stock looking magna owns them is worth the effort. Just need to find a way of suppressing the noise a bit more.....

The awd magna is probably the worst value performance modifier yet

This car is now going into stupid money modification just to get somewhere near 13's

Here's another list of better performing cars for less money

2000 VT HSV GTS 300

2005 Lancer Evo8

1992 Corvette

1990 Porsche Carrera

2000 WRX Club Spec Evo4

All of these could get 13 second qtrs with only a little coaxing, and for a couple of grand extra probably see 12 seconds.

You are coming to a sad realization.

Cancel or Allow.

:bowrofl:

But seriously - no duh....

(even the 2wd manual variants are almost pointless to mod for performance)

The awd magna is probably the worst value performance modifier yet

This car is now going into stupid money modification just to get somewhere near 13's

Here's another list of better performing cars for less money

2000 VT HSV GTS 300

2005 Lancer Evo8

1992 Corvette

1990 Porsche Carrera

2000 WRX Club Spec Evo4

All of these could get 13 second qtrs with only a little coaxing, and for a couple of grand extra probably see 12 seconds.

try comparing apples and apples... not apples and oranges as the old saying goes, these cars you listed are built for performance they already come stock with go fast bits they are already 1 step ahead, the money you spend to make it go faster are just minor improvements, the magna is build more towards family orientation than high performance, hence why to make them go faster you have to spend more, and to get them on par with the cars listed, you'll have to cough for the money to fit the go fast bits into a magna that don't come stock like the others listed

you forgot the cressida, for 15k your running low 13's day in day out

i believe it would be possible to have a 2nd gen as such for similar... as it looks like quaife might make a lsd for them too.

In regards to the magna being ****. I blame labour charges. I'd love to TT build an awd one day.

How much money are we talking here?

a 2000 WRX evo4 will be a lot more than an AWD magna.


Also don't forget:

A) Theft - WRX's are the most wanted hot vehicle.
B) Insurance
C) Being a wanker
D) Intercoolers are never big enough, add to rims are never big enough and soon you're sleeping in the car with no home or loved one's to think of
E) If you wanted a performance car why did you buy a magna? Geez, you're a bit of a silly sausage arn't you.

Corvettes are for bogans and porsche's are for gay doctors.

Now leave and never return.

And don't forget the imports which are cheaper than any of those non-imports and faster.

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: @ C) + D)

Now tHAT I THINK ABOUT IT FOR 20 GRAND I RECKON I COULD HAVE A MAGNA DOWN THE QUARTER IN 12....

First buy a cheap v6 shell. a grand...

rip the motor out.. cut firewall and remove, weld in transmission tunnel
Rip out rear end.

Buy cheap r32 for 8 grand and remove driveline.

last of all place all running gear in magna. Whala! 12 sec beast....

A magna owning a HSV or FPV your gotta be dreaming pal

A magna owning a HSV or FPV your gotta be dreaming pal
lolz like fully bro.





note* magna contained a supercharger

A magna owning a HSV or FPV your gotta be dreaming pal

HSV or FPV driver can't drive for ****

A magna owning a HSV or FPV your gotta be dreaming pal

Already does on wet roads

AWD traction + 450nM/230kw

Stage 2 will be 240+kw, flatter torque curve to +480nM

Weight will also be reduced by about 150kg

yeah magnas and pretty much all cars are gay!

as much as they suck balls you cant argue with striaghtline speed of the old VL commo

$ for $ there isnt anything that comes close that has 4 wheels in matching it on the 1/4 unless you have the knowledge and a really handy with a spanner

11-12sec VLs are under 15k
10sec VL's are under 20k and thats for the best examples of them

i have seen a genuine 9sec VL for 10k!

there is pretty much no way ever a magna is going to run a sub 10 sec 1/4 the fastest ever magna just barley cracked a 12, 11.95 is miles behind a 10 let alone a 9

even in full drag trim 10's would be so hard to reach even with a massive budget!


what the AWD needs to go fast is twin Turbo, s/c is ok for a burst of speed, but looking at ppl like black beards dyno printouts vs sprintexed magnas the tt peaks out much earlier has far bigger midrange and much more torque

and with the right internals and hardware you can double the output that the s/c makes easily


dont write off the autos there is a 3.0L 4spd auto turbo diamante thats making 400hp atw and he's still running low 12's on slicks with mega wheelspin

Dont forget, Driving a VL makes you look really, really faggy

How much money are we talking here?

a 2000 WRX evo4 will be a lot more than an AWD magna.


Also don't forget:

A) Theft - WRX's are the most wanted hot vehicle.
B) Insurance
C) Being a wanker
D) Intercoolers are never big enough, add to rims are never big enough and soon you're sleeping in the car with no home or loved one's to think of
E) If you wanted a performance car why did you buy a magna? Geez, you're a bit of a silly sausage arn't you.

Corvettes are for bogans and porsche's are for gay doctors.

Now leave and never return.

And don't forget the imports which are cheaper than any of those non-imports and faster.


I think 2000 wrx club specs are going for around 20 grand now.

By comparison

Paid $24k for a 2005 Gtvi awd verada

+ $7,500 for s/c

+ $1,200 for custom high flow exhaust

+ $7,000 for the current lot of go-faster bits

plus some dyno time and the aggravation of one set of destroyed pistons.

And probably another 4 or 5 grand for some stronger internals to get the 400 flywheel hp needed to get anywhere near 12 seconds.

That's well over 40 grand, or two old wrx club specs or three fast VL dunny doors.

Advice for young players: buy the evo or a VL if you want easy speed.

try comparing apples and apples... not apples and oranges as the old saying goes, these cars you listed are built for performance they already come stock with go fast bits they are already 1 step ahead, the money you spend to make it go faster are just minor improvements, the magna is build more towards family orientation than high performance, hence why to make them go faster you have to spend more, and to get them on par with the cars listed, you'll have to cough for the money to fit the go fast bits into a magna that don't come stock like the others listed
Yup also compare the retail prices of each car, the magna with performance add-ons may not be that much more exp.

']Dont forget, Driving a VL makes you look really, really faggy
ha ha it makes you hektik bruz

ha ha it makes you hektik bruz

Nah, just really, really faggy.
Id never touch one of those old rustboxes ever. so ugly inside and out.

']Nah, just really, really faggy.
Id never touch one of those old rustboxes ever. so ugly inside and out.
the onlyh reason people buy them is to go fast dude, you needa remember that...


or to look lreally really faggy :P

Yup also compare the retail prices of each car, the magna with performance add-ons may not be that much more exp.


just like the s/c'd awd on carsales

just a fraction of the cost of a fwd TRD Aurion

sad fact is that we all have to realise is the magna 3rd gen, is now a verymuch outdated car..

sure they made them till 2005 but the same basic package came around in 1996 with no real changes to the chassis or interior till the last models either...

comparing a 2003 magna to a 2003 BA the magna looks 10 years older...




heres the easy thing to do

keep magna stock nice to drive reliable good car!

instead of modifying, if you need to go fast but a bike 10k will get you 10's 2nd hand

or buy a gemini if you dont like VL's or something with a rotor, little work and your doing 11's

just dont expect any form or economy reliability or comfort even saftey either lol

the VL walkies can be had for about 25 grand.

People forget these things only weigh about 1400kg!

But unlike a late model awd verada, there's no front or side airbags and a minus 1 star crash rating.

keep magna stock nice to drive reliable good car!


:stoopid:

All that dosh for one second less... doesnt seem worth it in the end

All that dosh for one second less... doesnt seem worth it in the end

Well, if the other brave chap on this forum pulls off the evo manual box transplant it will be two seconds less. I'm going for the third pedal if he can do it.

Paul and Trav....some of us VL drivers have no choice lol

Nick, not every WRX driver is a wanker...im sure a 50 year old business man in his WRX isnt h3kTic bro lol

tbb.....welcome to the world of magna mods. Its a decision of "do i waste dollars and be different, or buy a factory performance car??"

Paul and Trav....some of us VL drivers have no choice lol

Nick, not every WRX driver is a wanker...im sure a 50 year old business man in his WRX isnt h3kTic bro lol

tbb.....welcome to the world of magna mods. Its a decision of "do i waste dollars and be different, or buy a factory performance car??"
I did the 1st and now i have to argue with mum every day about it:doubt: only $25K for a VL walky? Wow i thought they went for ALOT more then that

comparing a 2003 magna to a 2003 BA the magna looks 10 years older...

heres the easy thing to do

keep magna stock nice to drive reliable good car!

instead of modifying, if you need to go fast but a bike 10k will get you 10's 2nd hand

or buy a gemini if you dont like VL's or something with a rotor, little work and your doing 11's

just dont expect any form or economy reliability or comfort even saftey either lol

first of all the 2003 BA Falcon was an updated version of an AU Falcon, in which Ford spent $500 million converting the ugly AU to what you call a modern BA, if it didn't look newer than a 3rd gen magna, the designers at Ford need to be shot.

Coming from someone whom put a supercharger under his bonnet, you can't give advise to people to keep their cars stock, don't be hipocritical about your actions, don't give advise to others if you wouldn't live by your "believes"

Meh, if people don't realise at the outset that a 1700+kg family barge will never deliver the pace or agility of a rex/evo, they have issues. By all means modify your cars, but don't expect it to be cheap or completely satisfying. I know I chose to change bits and pieces on my car because it's different and makes the drive a bit edgier. I completely understand though that at the end of the day, it's a magna, hence aussie rubbish :P

jees some people are silly... really if ur going to modify an AWD magna to be a powerhouse, import a 1997-2001 VR4 galant and sell the magna... VR4=AWD, 210kw, all the goodies of the veradas, evo gearbox etc... and under $20k.

its not rocket science :gtfo: :nuts:

jees some people are silly... really if ur going to modify an AWD magna to be a powerhouse, import a 1997-2001 VR4 galant and sell the magna... VR4=AWD, 210kw, all the goodies of the veradas, evo gearbox etc... and under $20k.

its not rocket science :gtfo: :nuts:

or just do what you want

or just do what you want

fair enuff, but know ur limits... why do it, then whinge about the costs/lack of performance later?

first of all the 2003 BA Falcon was an updated version of an AU Falcon, in which Ford spent $500 million converting the ugly AU to what you call a modern BA, if it didn't look newer than a 3rd gen magna, the designers at Ford need to be shot.

Coming from someone whom put a supercharger under his bonnet, you can't give advise to people to keep their cars stock, don't be hipocritical about your actions, don't give advise to others if you wouldn't live by your "believes"

wow man, havent been laid in a while?

magnas a **** full stop!

they have a terrible chassis, but i like the exterior shape...

i supercharged mine cos i could, had i have known what i know now i would have run a mile from the s/c!

instead i would have had a twin turbo kit set up on in instead!


we have taken this kit far far beyond what it was intended for, the design of the kit is impressive, but it was never designed for petrolheads and ppl who want to make 400kw

it was a very drivable reasonably quick and when tuned pretty economical thing.... but at the end of the day the ppl on here who have taken the s/c beyond std kit have spent upwards of 15k and it''s never going to stop as there will always be more and more that needs doing... upping the boost is silly 11psi with no intercooler and high compression on an old tech engine dosent workout for reliability and hot weather performance

i s/c'd my car cos it made a cool noise and i wanted more go... but i never wanted a fast car, from the begining 14's were what i was after and 14's it did, so when i killed it no big deal for me... i would still love and unlimited budget to build up an awd thats stripped out manual twin turbo etc... but i took my car in the other direction.... at the time of buying the s/c kit i also got a 250cc bike... but i could have easily brought a 10sec valiant that i had been drooling over.... but like i said i dont need to go fast, and having 600rwhp on low boost (6L twin turbo 1969 val) is crazy :P

and about the ba..... have you ever looked at the interior dash design of a magna? c'mon you cant honestly tell me that its up to date when compared to other cars of the same model year... My 2003 magna looks just like any other 1997 model car.... a BA can almost pass for a newish car in the interior design now, where as a magna of the same year looks like many other 10yo cars....

and worst of all the magna has NO VTEC YO!!

Coming from someone whom put a supercharger under his bonnet, you can't give advise to people to keep their cars stock, don't be hipocritical about your actions, don't give advise to others if you wouldn't live by your "believes"

Feel like getting off your soapbox now?

Considering that AndrewD has spent a lot of money on his Magna in the past, hes one of the few people on here worth listening to about whether it is worth the money or not.



Either way, I would rather listen to AndrewD, than the dumb ass that made this comment:

HSV or FPV driver can't drive for ****
Because last I heard, you couldn't really drive for **** either, so who is the hypocrite?


And it is "Beliefs", not "Believes".

Now :gtfo:

This has got to be one of the stupidest ****ing threads I've seen on AMC for a while.

Magnas are and always have been a god damn money pit when it comes to 'performance' modifying. There's no such thing as a free lunch, so you're going to pay for performance any way you go too, whether its the RRP of a brand new STI or the insurance costs of a TT Supra, you're going to be forking out one way or another, just with the magna you're spending a lot more for a lot less.

Anyone who buys a magna for a performance car is a ****ing moron.

This has got to be one of the stupidest ****ing threads I've seen on AMC for a while.


Anyone who buys a magna for a performance car is a ****ing moron.

Quoted for truth.

Lucky i have my trust ex-admin powers still..

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