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The Magnaforce
29-12-2007, 07:24 PM
Checked the tyres for wear 2day & lucky I did. They were stuffed.
The r/f had 2cm of the inside scrubbed with the wire showing & to the centre was heal toed.
The l/f had the same as r/f only the 2cm not quite as bad but still had a couple of wire patches.
The r/r was the best tyre but still the inside 2cm scrubbed & heal toed to the centre.
The l/r was scrubbed on the inside 2cm & heal toed across the lot & wire patches on the inside 2cm.
I was wondering if other Magna/Verada owners with big rims have the same wear or I have a suspension prob.
I have a TJ Sports with Pedders Sports Rider springs & shocks lowered 20mm rear & 40mm front but the lpg tank & sound system install adds a bit more to the rear so it sits a bit lower than the 20mm.
I run Lenso 19" rims with I think +40 offset with 235/35/19 Federal rubber.
I am not a hoon so I drive normally.
Anyway any feedback appreciated.

Trotty
29-12-2007, 07:57 PM
From what ive gathered the heal toeing you refer to as wear, is toe adjustment. Get a tape and measure the front and rear of the tyres on the same axle. Should be little variation depending on how its been set up.

When was your last wheel allignment?

Sounds like you need another with the new tyres. They will tell you then.

And wear on the inside is normal when lowered. Need a camber kit.

TL-R
30-12-2007, 04:09 AM
When was your last wheel allignment?

+1

And also what pressure were you running & when was the last time you checked it?

The Magnaforce
30-12-2007, 06:16 AM
+1

And also what pressure were you running & when was the last time you checked it?33lb, & every week.

Trotty
30-12-2007, 06:57 AM
33psi sounds a bit low with a load... i would suggest at least 38-40psi for a 19' rim

Magtone
30-12-2007, 07:10 AM
33psi sounds a bit low with a load... i would suggest at least 38-40psi for a 19' rim

:stoopid:
I had similar wear on my tyres running at 36psi and was told to go up to 40psi. 33 is def too low

TL-R
30-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Agreed 33 is too low.

and when was the last wheel alignment? When the wheels were first fitted?

Trotty
30-12-2007, 07:36 AM
I would assume that because all the wheels are about the same wear, he has had the rotate and balance done half cycle but no wheel allignment.

TL-R
30-12-2007, 07:44 AM
Maybe it was a **** alignment to begin with or possible not done at all?

Even not done after the car was lowered?

Trotty
30-12-2007, 08:04 AM
Maybe it was a **** alignment to begin with or possible not done at all?

Even not done after the car was lowered?


Very unlikely, but possible.:nuts:

Was it lowered before you got it?

opilot87
30-12-2007, 02:28 PM
May not have got it aligned after the gas conversion and stereo too, which would make a big difference on the back.

Agree on the tyre pressures too. More pressure will help move the wear to the centre of the tyre too


Ollie

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
30-12-2007, 05:23 PM
Afaik, magnas have no factory camber adjustment (correct me if i'm wrong) - hence the need for a camber kit (adjustable bushes at the least).

Sounds like you've got a fair bit of camber happening there.

_x_FiReStOrM_x_
30-12-2007, 05:23 PM
Agree on the tyre pressures too. More pressure will help move the wear to the centre of the tyre too


Ollie

Not if it has alot of negative camber...

The Magnaforce
30-12-2007, 09:32 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.
This is the 2nd set of the same size tyres since lowering & had w/alignment done at lowering & with the fitment of the 2nd set but not since gas fitted.
I at first had 35lb in them by tyre fitter & thought I needed a bit more so ran 37lb for a month or 2 but ride was rough as hell so I asked another tyre fitter what I should run & he said between 32 & 38lb depending on ride you want towing or not etc so made my decision.
I did expect a bit more wear on the inside but not to scrub the way they did.

Cheers
Craig.

Bain
30-12-2007, 09:38 PM
Probably the offset more than likely.

Did your rims come with the spacers that go over the centre hub? Are they the correct ones?

That or you need a camber/castor kit.

The Magnaforce
30-12-2007, 09:50 PM
Probably the offset more than likely.

Did your rims come with the spacers that go over the centre hub? Are they the correct ones?

That or you need a camber/castor kit.No spacers Bain & was told this offset was the go by a couple of people, but u may be right.

Blackbird
30-12-2007, 10:38 PM
How many K's did you get outa these tyres??
If you got 20,000+ then you're doing alright for a lowered magna rolling on 19 s!!

Just sounds like you left them going a bit long.....

I do wheel alignments every 10,000-15,000k's regardless of whether I need tyres...
Or if I smash a big hole in the road.. I get it checked.....

Can't be too careful... catch stuff early enough iit's a quick and easy fix.... don't fix it it could cost lots more down the road

just my .02 cents


Steve

The Magnaforce
31-12-2007, 06:04 AM
How many K's did you get outa these tyres??
If you got 20,000+ then you're doing alright for a lowered magna rolling on 19 s!!

Just sounds like you left them going a bit long.....

I do wheel alignments every 10,000-15,000k's regardless of whether I need tyres...
Or if I smash a big hole in the road.. I get it checked.....

Can't be too careful... catch stuff early enough iit's a quick and easy fix.... don't fix it it could cost lots more down the road

just my .02 cents


SteveYeah, maybe around 17 or 18,000.

mad082 magna
31-12-2007, 08:58 AM
i would go to a different tyre place and get an alignment done. if you got both done at the same place last time it could just be that they aren't that good at them. and if it was done at a tyre place, there are some tyre places that will do them a little bit wrong so you wear your tyres out quicker so they get more money.

also if you do have a camber issue then you need to get the toe matched to the camber, not just at a preset setting for standard camber. my mate used to work in a tyre shop and cars with IRS that had been lowered and had problems with scrubbing out tyres he would adjust the toe to help counteract the camber, but not go so far as to alter the handling.