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Blue 380
03-01-2008, 05:24 PM
I've got my car booked in with Mitsubishi next week for a 30,000km service ($260 - seemed a bit much to me but I guess thats the going rate?) but I'm also getting an on-car fuel injection service for an extra $99. I figured after 30,00kms of possibly crap fuel running thru the injectors, I couldnt hurt to give them a clean. Just wondering if anyone else has had this done & if they thought it was worth while?

Type40
03-01-2008, 05:30 PM
Well for $99 it cant hurt!

danthevrxman
03-01-2008, 06:07 PM
I had it done to my car at the 30k service.

it did diddly squat

i286
03-01-2008, 06:16 PM
What a way to waste $99. You have 2006 made car with less than 30000 km, why do you need fuel injection service. There is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Don't waste your money on fixing something that is not broken.

Grubco
03-01-2008, 06:20 PM
You can always pour a bottle of that Wynn's fuel injector cleaner into your tank. :confused:
It always seemed very dodgy to me, that stuff; wonder if it was any good.
Running a few tanks of high octane fuel, on a regular basis, is also good for keeping the injector clean (but who can afford it these days?).

Blue 380
03-01-2008, 06:54 PM
You can always pour a bottle of that Wynn's fuel injector cleaner into your tank. :confused:
It always seemed very dodgy to me, that stuff; wonder if it was any good.
Running a few tanks of high octane fuel, on a regular basis, is also good for keeping the injector clean (but who can afford it these days?).
Interesting comments....I was thinking along the lines of Type 40 that for $99 it cant be a bad thing. Sought of preventative maintenance, keep them clean before getting blocked but perhaps I might wait until the next service before getting it done.

I also put one of those fuel injector cleaners in the tank every 5000 km's and cant help but wonder if they are doing anything. I guess for $7 dollars a pop, could it really hurt?

Grubco
03-01-2008, 08:41 PM
I also put one of those fuel injector cleaners in the tank every 5000 km's and cant help but wonder if they are doing anything. I guess for $7 dollars a pop, could it really hurt?
I had a mechanic about 10 years that advised strongly against putting any of that cheap rubbish in my fuel tank (I think he used more colorful language) - and then I've heard other people say its good to use... so I guess if you have already used it without problems then its okay.

doddski
03-01-2008, 10:45 PM
at 30,000km... you really shouldnt be needing your injectors cleaned..

unless you use a lot of cheap / crap fuel through your car, you should be fine.

on the other hand, if the car had 230,000km on the clock... then it might be considered slightly more worthwhile.

high octane fuel through it once in a while should be all it needs - BP Ultimate (i know - biased i used to work for em) but it does work in the longrun

wrexed03
04-01-2008, 06:49 AM
Keep your 99 dollars. Dont waste it. Your car is very new your injectors would still be clean. I have just over 140K on mine i removed the injectors a couple of weeks ago and they were very clean. (Not for cleaning other purpose) If your using good quality fuel you shouldnt have a problem they use the relevant detergents and other stuff to keep them clean.
If you want to blow 99 bucks just send it my way :)

Regards

danthevrxman
04-01-2008, 10:29 AM
Keep your 99 dollars. Dont waste it. Your car is very new your injectors would still be clean. I have just over 140K on mine i removed the injectors a couple of weeks ago and they were very clean. (Not for cleaning other purpose) If your using good quality fuel you shouldnt have a problem they use the relevant detergents and other stuff to keep them clean.
If you want to blow 99 bucks just send it my way :)

Regards


During the 140,000k's, whats mostly been used, 91,95 or 98?

No name
04-01-2008, 05:26 PM
I've got my car booked in with Mitsubishi next week for a 30,000km service ($260 - seemed a bit much to me but I guess thats the going rate?) but I'm also getting an on-car fuel injection service for an extra $99. I figured after 30,00kms of possibly crap fuel running thru the injectors, I couldnt hurt to give them a clean. Just wondering if anyone else has had this done & if they thought it was worth while?

Wouldnt recomend doing this. I'm surprised they even tried to sell you this at only a 30000 service. We usually sell them at cars done atleast 50k. Even then it can be a bit early.

If the service advisor has sold you this its only for their personal gain. They make bonus selling all the injector / throttle body cleans etc. Most do nothing and are just a rip off.

If you do get it done make sure it is a proper injector clean and there not just putting some Fortron injector clean in the tank.

Blue 380
04-01-2008, 07:45 PM
Wouldnt recomend doing this. I'm surprised they even tried to sell you this at only a 30000 service. We usually sell them at cars done atleast 50k. Even then it can be a bit early.

If the service advisor has sold you this its only for their personal gain. They make bonus selling all the injector / throttle body cleans etc. Most do nothing and are just a rip off.

If you do get it done make sure it is a proper injector clean and there not just putting some Fortron injector clean in the tank.
Thanks everyone for the advice. I will ring Mits tommorrow & cancel the fuel injection service & just go with the standard 30,000km. Mind you, $260 still seems excessive to me....I may ring some other places to see what they charge.

Mohit
04-01-2008, 07:49 PM
A real fuel injector service that would actually do something worthwhile would be one where the injectors are removed from the engine, are cleaned by exposing them to ultrasonic waves and are then flow tested before being put back into the car. But at 30K km, it's definitely not needed.

vrex
04-01-2008, 08:01 PM
I'm a bit off topic 380, but go right through your invoice after the service and check everything - I just realised today that my 45k service last week they charged me labour for changing spark plugs, but no charge for new plugs. Result? rang the service dept, they checked the record and no they did not put new plugs in. Sure, they are doing it soon and charging me plugs only, but easy to miss. If I wasn't on work time, I should have stood there and checked it all on the spot when I paid for it.
I vote don't worry about injector cleaning till they do the standard service to the handboook spec.

vrex
04-01-2008, 08:23 PM
I don't know if a magna is comparable, but a standard dealer service costs me $70 and $110 or about $40+ per hr labour plus oil as I byo, so if your 30k is just oil, filter, and inspect everything, it does sound exxie.
ask them what the fuel filter is for if they think you need injectors cleaned.

No name
04-01-2008, 08:28 PM
Average labour price for any manufacturer is over $100 per hour. Ours is around $110. Factor in about $20 for a filter and probably atleast $40 for the oil. Its probably about right.

vrex
04-01-2008, 10:47 PM
Well you won't hear me complain about service costs if $100/hr and $20 a filter is the going rate everywhere but my local dealer.

i286
05-01-2008, 06:27 AM
If the service advisor has sold you this its only for their personal gain. They make bonus selling all the injector / throttle body cleans etc. Most do nothing and are just a rip off.

Couldn't agree more.

Blue 380, glad to see you are back on track. It is easy to spend a lot of money, unnecessary, on the car and actually not make it any better or safer or economical or practical.

Check this site www.********rvice.com.au/ServiceCost. For some reason I can't put up the link. It will give you an estimated cost of service for your car. Take it as a guide only.

Type40
05-01-2008, 06:31 AM
Check this site (********rvice).

Is the swear filter that finnicky that you cant even write Car Service because it thinks you are writing ****??? (ass) What a load of crap! lol

By the way i286... the link doesnt work because of the **** of a swear filter! Its ****ed it for you.

i286
05-01-2008, 06:39 AM
Computer and I are not the best friends :confused:

Blue 380
05-01-2008, 07:08 AM
Average labour price for any manufacturer is over $100 per hour. Ours is around $110. Factor in about $20 for a filter and probably atleast $40 for the oil. Its probably about right.
OK, this thread was started about servicing so I'm still on topic.....I've checked the handbook & the only things being replaced at 30,000k service is engine oil & oil filter (if I'm reading it correctly, the fuel filter for fuel injected petrol cars doesnt get replaced until 105,000k's). Additionally, they check & adjust a number of other items for $260.

Just rang Ultra Tune....they consider 30,000k as a minor service but in addition to what the handbook (and Mitsubishi) will do, they will also flush the brake & clutch fluid for a total cost of $220.

As I've previously mentioned I am not bothering with the fuel injection service, the only decision is now do I want to pay a bit extra for Mitsubishi to service it and actually do less to the car. (The 'spanner' symbol has come up near the odometer indicating it needs a service...not sure if Mitsubishi are the only ones who can remove that after servicing).

i286
05-01-2008, 07:19 AM
(The 'spanner' symbol has come up near the odometer indicating it needs a service...not sure if Mitsubishi are the only ones who can remove that after servicing).

Check your handbook. It should be explained how to reset maintenance indicator yourself.

vrex
05-01-2008, 08:40 AM
Much as the dealer annoys me, it would take a lot to make me go to ultratune or wherever, if there is ever a warranty prob with the car you have more recourse through the dealer system, and they might look after you better if they think you will buy more cars from them. At least you should have a choice of dealerships in the city, maybe someone here can recommend one?

auspest
05-01-2008, 09:58 AM
I gave up using Dealers for servicing a number of years ago. My opinion is that if you find a good and honest mechanic ( sometimes that is hard to do) you are better off going that way. My 1998 Magna on its 90 thousand service was charging me $800.00 to do the timing belt and also a cam seal that was leaking (only one). My mechanic did all this including all front seals while the front was off the motor, cost of $450.00.
Any warranty issues i take it back to one dealer as they have offered me great service so i will always use them for this. ( rear window regulator stuffed up).

Good old fashion customer service goes along way and i dont think the big guys can give this. All the advertising and the big signs out the front have to be paid for by someone.

(a holden dealer use to service a commodore i had years ago. The sunroof was checked at each service and ticked off in the book. One time i told them that after the service it did not work, they asked me to bring it back in to have a look. When i did that looked at me if i was stupid due to the fact that it didnt have one. They could not see the funny side of it when i showed them the service book for the past 5 services saying that it had been checked) Or was it just the old tick and flick on the page.
Scott

TL-R
05-01-2008, 12:31 PM
When i did that looked at me if i was stupid due to the fact that it didnt have one. They could not see the funny side of it when i showed them the service book for the past 5 services saying that it had been checked) Or was it just the old tick and flick on the page.
Scott

BAAAAAhahahaha - that's hilarious. I guess they didn't like you making them look stupid.

Psx
24-02-2008, 09:17 AM
I recently had my 30,000 Km dealer service and the service manager recommended that I have the injectors cleaned for $125. I declined. If this needs to be done at 30,000 Km I would hate to see what they would recommend at 100,000 Km - a full engine rebuild just as a precaution? I wander how many other people are being recommended this service so early in their cars life?

Total for this basic service was $236 (oil/filter change and checking items).
This included a charge of $44 to adjust the handbrake.

Blue 380
24-02-2008, 12:00 PM
I recently had my 30,000 Km dealer service and the service manager recommended that I have the injectors cleaned for $125. I declined. If this needs to be done at 30,000 Km I would hate to see what they would recommend at 100,000 Km - a full engine rebuild just as a precaution? I wander how many other people are being recommended this service so early in their cars life?

Total for this basic service was $236 (oil/filter change and checking items).
This included a charge of $44 to adjust the handbrake.
They dont miss you when it comes to charging, thats for sure...I paid $260 for my 30K.

The thing is with Mitsubishi, they provided a courtesy bus to take me home after dropping my car off & then a coffee from their cafe when I went back to pick it up. These extra services being provided are all factored into the price for the service so I guess the only other option is to go to another mechanic where you dont get free coffee etc but pay less for the car to be serviced.

03TL
24-02-2008, 04:27 PM
injectors are good for at least 100000km


dealerships try up sell these products to make more money all most of them do is tip the crap in the tank and charge you for a efi clean

dont waist your money at 100000 get the injectors removed and cleaned on a cleaning bench..

cost around $30 per injector get them done when you do the spark plugs that way your not paying labor to remove the plenuim