(anotehr problem related to my car yes i know har har)

anyway after having the car off the road for 2 months due to a whole list of things which i wont get into i took her for a drive, so, down they all went! got to where i had to go(15ish minutes) and rolled em all up - awesome

after being at that place for 10ish minutes i put the rear two down, and went to do the fronts and nothing happened, so i go to do the rears and they wouldnt work either, NONE of the windows would work!

So i had to leave the car outside so i slapped some window sox on it for the time being...
anyway left that place after 7 hours and the back two went up fine :confused: and the front 2 went up and down fine :confused: and they all worked - well for about 2 minutes..

got home and again they wouldnt work, left it overnight and in the morning she was all good again.

So it didnt blow a fuse or anything and i know my wiring is 100% awesome.
faulty switch perhaps?
what the hell gives any ideas?

'](anotehr problem related to my car yes i know har har)

anyway after having the car off the road for 2 months due to a whole list of things which i wont get into i took her for a drive, so, down they all went! got to where i had to go(15ish minutes) and rolled em all up - awesome

after being at that place for 10ish minutes i put the rear two down, and went to do the fronts and nothing happened, so i go to do the rears and they wouldnt work either, NONE of the windows would work!

So i had to leave the car outside so i slapped some window sox on it for the time being...
anyway left that place after 7 hours and the back two went up fine :confused: and the front 2 went up and down fine :confused: and they all worked - well for about 2 minutes..

got home and again they wouldnt work, left it overnight and in the morning she was all good again.

So it didnt blow a fuse or anything and i know my wiring is 100% awesome.
faulty switch perhaps?
what the hell gives any ideas?

Mmmmmmmmmm, intermittent electrical faults. Don't you just love them :rant:

It's strange to say the least, and doubtful that all four switches would play up at once. But then I am unfamiliar even with the layout of these cars. Are the switches all in a cluster? If so there could be some dodgy connections on the loom - but I'm just guessing.

You say your wiring is 100% so I assume that it's just been done, but one thing that often gets overlooked are the earths. I've found the solution to quite a few problems can be traced to this. Don't ask me about the months I spent trying to fix dim headlights. New lamps, relays, terminals cleaned to no avail - until someone said 'How out the earths'? :cry:

Like I said, not that familiar with the car and its lay out, but it could be worth a look..

Matt

Yeah i put them in myself from manual winders so i made sure it was all rigey didge!
I will check the earth out though its always the simplest things which play up hey....

Cheers.

Also theres one switch per door and the drivers door has all 4 switches on it + the stop button thingy..

']Yeah i put them in myself

Oh lord...








'] i made sure it was all rigey didge!
My ass... :P



Is it only the drivers switch that wont allow them to function? ie, do the other 3 individual switches still work normally?

Oh lord...







Is it only the drivers switch that wont allow them to function? ie, do the other 3 individual switches still work normally?

stfu:P

Nah ive tried it and no switches work at all.
Another point is when i was putting these in i was mucking around with a different drivers switch that was faulty and if that was faulty none would work either...

Try backprobing each switch on the drivers panel, like you're using the bridging wire as the switch.. if that makes sense. Than you'll know if somethings fishy inside the whole switch panel.

Try backprobing each switch on the drivers panel, like you're using the bridging wire as the switch.. if that makes sense. Than you'll know if somethings fishy inside the whole switch panel.

I was thinking of just getting another one from the wreckers and seeing how that goes but could possibly be my earth too. Cant think of where i earthed it so ill have to trace it back.
I know ive suffered from faulty earths before...
"why the **** are my amps cutting in and out" :doubt:

Have you checked the power windows relay? that would explain all windows failing at once. Next time they aren;t working check for a voltage on the cabin side of the relay. Other then that check the drivers lock out switch and all the earth points.

Have you checked the power windows relay? that would explain all windows failing at once. Next time they aren;t working check for a voltage on the cabin side of the relay. Other then that check the drivers lock out switch and all the earth points.

I have like 8 spare relays so again i can just replace that and hope for the best

Check the lock out switch how? sorry :redface:

Wait do 2nd gens have the switches that cut power to the windows? Just pull it out and using a multimeter check to make sure the connectivity across it?

Also just a thought check the hot on run wire that connects to the power windows relay. I know in 1st gens the horn uses the same hot on run wire as power windows, find out if anything else uses the same wire to turn on and see if that fails at the same tiem the windows do.

edit: on 2nd thought 2nd gens use etacs controllers so just ignore that last bit.

Wait do 2nd gens have the switches that cut power to the windows? Just pull it out and using a multimeter check to make sure the connectivity across it?

Also just a thought check the hot on run wire that connects to the power windows relay. I know in 1st gens the horn uses the same hot on run wire as power windows, find out if anything else uses the same wire to turn on and see if that fails at the same tiem the windows do.

edit: on 2nd thought 2nd gens use etacs controllers so just ignore that last bit.

ETACS :shock:
Ill trace down that earth first i think mate:P
Thanks for the informative help though

I was going to suggest the lock out switch, but then wouldn't the driver's window still work? Most of the lock out switches I've come across only isolate the passenger and rear windows, but the driver's still work.

With any electrical problem it is a good idea to isolate it into sections. Is power getting into the fuse box. Is it getting to the switch? Out of the switch, and so on. Next time it happens put a multi meter on the switches and make sure there's voltage there. Then check the continuity through the switches - which I doubt would be the problem due to it being a global issue, so I would say lack of voltage. But bridging out the switches can at least eliminate them as a source.

That is after you make sure the earths are okay lol

It's good to see that Frenchies aren't the only ones that have nice electrical problems. I've got my old window switch sitting here in front of me after it was replaced. Passenger window loved going down, but wouldn't go up unless you pulled the switch out of the console, unplugged and replugged the loom - then it would work. So I figured it was time to replace it.

Good luck with your search.

Matt

Tuffy's won't have ETACS. Was only in select models.

Tuff, did you earth it on a bolt in the centre console section, like I did? Like where the stereo earths? Who knows, maybe your gearshift has been catching it if that's the case?

FTR I think ETACS was only on the Elite models.

Tuffy, you sure your windows weren't made by Microsoft? ;)

found the problem.
the only *** thing in the whole install i did not solder because of the complexity of the join came loose. which was the power wire leading into the fusebox.

lesson learnt - solder everything

']found the problem.
the only *** thing in the whole install i did not solder because of the complexity of the join came loose. which was the power wire leading into the fusebox.

lesson learnt - solder everything

Derrrrrrrrrrrrrr......... lol\

Good to see its sorted.

'] i know my wiring is 100% awesome.
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:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Riiiigggghhhttt

well it was, besides this one connector which wiggled loose, so ill say my wiring was 99% awesome, 1% fail