im just thinking out loud here and sharing my thoughts...
ive been surfing the web and AMC for ideas for my sound system...
so far i have got:

two Kenwood KDC-W3011 12-inch 1200-watt Car Woofer - http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Kenwood-KDC-W3011-12-inch-1200-watt-Car-Woofer/2289439/product.html

one GM-7300M - http://www.pioneer.com.au/products/car_entertainment/
soon to be have two one for each sub (in 2 weeks:D )

one set of kenwood KFC-M6935A 6"9" 3 way speakers

whats coming-
one pioneer TSW3001D4 3000watt max sub 1000 watt rms sub(for some serious bass)
http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/27499.html

one 1000 watt rms amp to power the sub (ideas please)

7" double din touch screen something like this -
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/7-Inches-In-Dash-touchscreen-LCD-DVD-Player-TV-USB-Car_W0QQitemZ320202004789QQihZ011QQcategoryZ67772Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

one set of Pioneer TS-C1602 Car Speakers splits
http://www.ryda.com.au/Pioneer-TS-C1602-Car-Speakers-p/tsc1602.htm

and my laptop will soon be in my car hence why i choose to get a screen with touch screen function

oh and of course ill need a farad compacitor:D

please give me ur thoughts (good and bad) so i dont buy $*** stuff it all seems good to me and wont break the bank.... well too much lol

You don't need a capacitor.

You don't need a capacitor.
:stoopid:


right so system will be:
*cheap HU with lousy SQ
*sorta ok pioneer splits, but with no amp...
*2x cheapass kenwood 400W RMS 12" subs
*2x cheap pioneer 250W RMS mono amps
*1x 1000W pioneer 12" sub
*1x 1000W (probably response) mono amp


first off, HU will be the weakpoint... u should be spending more on that, going for atleast a JVC model, otherwise it all isnt worth it.

2nd, amp the splits... atleast get a response 4chan for the cabin speakers

3rd, sell the kenwood subs, dont go even bothering to get another mono to power those POS subs

4th, do more research...

im just thinking out loud here and sharing my thoughts...
ive been surfing the web and AMC for ideas for my sound system...
so far i have got:

two Kenwood KDC-W3011 12-inch 1200-watt Car Woofer - http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Kenwood-KDC-W3011-12-inch-1200-watt-Car-Woofer/2289439/product.html

one GM-7300M - http://www.pioneer.com.au/products/car_entertainment/
soon to be have two one for each sub (in 2 weeks:D )

one set of kenwood KFC-M6935A 6"9" 3 way speakers

whats coming-
one pioneer TSW3001D4 3000watt max sub 1000 watt rms sub(for some serious bass)
http://www.abtelectronics.com/product/27499.html

one 1000 watt rms amp to power the sub (ideas please)

7" double din touch screen something like this -
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/7-Inches-In-Dash-touchscreen-LCD-DVD-Player-TV-USB-Car_W0QQitemZ320202004789QQihZ011QQcategoryZ67772Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

one set of Pioneer TS-C1602 Car Speakers splits
http://www.ryda.com.au/Pioneer-TS-C1602-Car-Speakers-p/tsc1602.htm

and my laptop will soon be in my car hence why i choose to get a screen with touch screen function

oh and of course ill need a farad compacitor:D

please give me ur thoughts (good and bad) so i dont buy $*** stuff it all seems good to me and wont break the bank.... well too much lolForget all that crap & get Focal speakers all round & Focal amps & Alpine H/U. As for the capacitor I have 2 for bling but they are not really needed.

Good call Magnaforce, obviously you have done your research....

Focal speakers and amps are the bomb. Well expect for:
DLS
DD
Boston Acoustics
Audison
Hertz
Diamond Audio
Oz Audio
Zapco
Sea Lotus
Dynaudio
Morel
Nakamachi
Phass

Should I go on?

96_magan_TE sell all the stuff you have ( the 6x9's can stay ) and give us a budget with an idea on what you are expecting...

Good call Magnaforce, obviously you have done your research....

Focal speakers and amps are the bomb. Well expect for:
DLS
DD
Boston Acoustics
Audison
Hertz
Diamond Audio
Oz Audio
Zapco
Sea Lotus
Dynaudio
Morel
Nakamachi
Phass

Should I go on?Yes then, go on.

Well ok then, I did leave out:
RE audio
Adire
Eton
Audio System
Image Dynamics
Infintiy
Peerless
Phoenix Gold
Scosche
Polk
Treo
Tru tech
MB quart
Xtant
A/D/S
Lightning Audio
Butler
Vibe
Soundstream
Clif designs
Crossfire
Earthquake
Seas
Precision Power...

Probably forgot some more but yeah...

i got signat there german made

signat are porn.

as for the proposed audio setup. forget running 2 different types of subs. it will sound like ass, cost you more money, take up more room, weigh down your car more, and likely end up quieter than having 1 decent sub in the first place.

if you are keen on that pioneer sub then get that and a new monoblock, and sell the poo kenwoods and that baby pioneer monoblock.

as for your plan on getting another pioneer mono so the kenwoods can run one each, the problem with this proposal is that you will be running each individual amp at 4ohm each instead of 2ohm, which will pretty much result in the same audible power as you would get from running the single amp at 2ohm. an expensive and pointless exercise.

keep whatever speakers are in the back of the car for now, and put all of your speaker budget towards a quality set of front 6" splits for now. while you would be quite satisfied with a substantial part of the market available in your price range, try to get to some stores and listen to some speakers they have setup, take a cd with you that you are familiar with, and use that to test every pair.

purchase the pair you like best.

7" double din touch screen something like this -
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/7-Inches-In-Dash-touchscreen-LCD-DVD-Player-TV-USB-Car_W0QQitemZ320202004789QQihZ011QQcategoryZ67772Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and my laptop will soon be in my car hence why i choose to get a screen with touch screen function


I don't think the touch screen on that will let you control the laptop, only the internal DVD player. You need to get a different screen if you want to use it to control your laptop.

ok guys i think i wont be doing this then...
i might save more and go all out :D
seems like the way to go...
so go with focal and alpine h/u ????

with the head unit (touch screen) that was just showing what i want but not that 1,
ill go with a known brand name 1 but i like the double din types and that was the 1st example i found

thanks for the advice guys ill shall do more reseach b4 i post my new plans sorry for the stupid ideas... wat was i thinking :nuts: :gtfo: :nuts:
so i shall be saving, researching and going all out with high quality gear...

thanks again for the advice.. saved me buying $*** gear then finding out how C**p it is and having to go and buy all again THAT WOULD HAVE SUCKED!!!!

EDIT: okay ive done more research and asked some mates and i have come up with this-

SUBWOOFER-
SWX-1243D
Type-X 12" (30cm) Subwoofer
http://www.alpine.com.au/products/product.asp?modelID=326
i can pick one up for around 450-500 buks off ebay lol

SPLITS-
SPR-17S
Type-R 6-1/2" Component 2-Way Speaker
http://www.alpine.com.au/products/product.asp?modelID=314

AMPLIFIER-
I DONT KNOW... Examples Please
i want to amp the sub and the splits...

they are my main priorities... my current kenwood headunit
will do for now unitil i get a double din screen and eventually
i will replace my rear kenwood 6"9"s... again can some1 give me ideas
of what i should put back there... and tell me if i have left anything out...
sorry for all the questions but i no jack$**t about what gear is good and what is $**t
mostly because every1 tells me different things... i no it altimatly comes down to me and what i like... is that set up any good.. let me no.
sorry for all the NOOB questions :o

im thinking of these for the rear
SPR-17C
Type-R 6-1/2" (16.5cm) Coaxial 2-Way Speaker
http://www.alpine.com.au/products/product.asp?modelID=317

dont worry about the rear 6x9s... they dont count with a sub anyway, just fade forwards to good quality splits.

how about we do it this way... rather than u picking models etc, give us a budget, and tell us what its for ie $XXXX for splits, sub, and amps for both. Can ya please do that, we might find better stuff for ur money :) ($500 subs is a bigass category ;) )

Well ok then, I did leave out:
RE audio
Adire
Eton
Audio System
Image Dynamics
Infintiy
Peerless
Phoenix Gold
Scosche
Polk
Treo
Tru tech
MB quart
Xtant
A/D/S
Lightning Audio
Butler
Vibe
Soundstream
Clif designs
Crossfire
Earthquake
Seas
Precision Power...

Probably forgot some more but yeah...
i'm pretty happy with my alpine splits! :D

keep whatever speakers are in the back of the car for now, and put all of your speaker budget towards a quality set of front 6" splits for now. while you would be quite satisfied with a substantial part of the market available in your price range, try to get to some stores and listen to some speakers they have setup, take a cd with you that you are familiar with, and use that to test every pair.

purchase the pair you like best.

very good advice. remember at high levels, you really only hear the response from the front stage and the rear stage is simply "rear fill".

as for bass, some good calls there too. you should feel it, hear it, but not be able to tell exactly where it's coming from.

how about we do it this way... rather than u picking models etc, give us a budget, and tell us what its for ie $XXXX for splits, sub, and amps for both. Can ya please do that, we might find better stuff for ur money :)

On occasion check out www.graysonline.com.au a commercial auctioneer. Recently Stothers Car Audio went into liquidation and there was some pretty sweet Alpine and JVC deals to be had. Only prob, this was a pickup auction in Melb which is hard from where I am - which is where the AMC courier/help system would have come in handy!

if u do some research, u wont buy from grays ;)

if u do some research, u wont buy from grays ;)

fair enough. i guess it comes down to personal experience and your research. i've been happy with what i've purchased through them and not had any dramas. can't speak for anyone else though.

http://www.mobileelectronics.com.au/forums/index.php

Register, read SQ forum.

okay budget.
splits- 250-300
sub- 500
amp/s- 700-800

or 1600 or so all up

okay guys thats my budget wat should i buy

okay budget.
splits- 250-300
sub- 500
amp/s- 700-800

or 1600 or so all up

okay guys thats my budget wat should i buy
You need to allow cash for wiring/installation, sound deadening aswell.

if your looking at going type x keep in mind they are pretty picky when it comes to boxes no point putting it in a premade sealed box it will make it doughy. A proper tuned ported box is the way to go and i would strongly advise budgeting it in, otherwise your wasting your time

okay budget.
splits- 250-300
sub- 500
amp/s- 700-800

or 1600 or so all up

okay guys thats my budget wat should i buy

If it was me:
Splits: Hertz HSK 165 / Boston S Type / Focal 165
Sub: DD2512 / Oz Audio Me / Hertz HXS300 / New Boston G3
Amps: Jaycar 4x 100WRMS / DD C4a / Alpine F545 / Audison SRx3 / Focal FP 4.75
1 dynamat bulk pack
Wiring kit

everyone will have there own opinions on what is 'the best' so ill give you roughly what ive run/currently running as they give good bass and good sq when tuned properly

splits: DLS reference PS6's
Sub- Alpine Type X in ported box OR type R in Alpine custom made box (they rock its what im using)
Amp: response 4x100 and a Response 1500wrms or the 2x150rms for the Sub (depending on what sub you go.

1 dynamat bulk kit
and wiring etc etc

its always better to have a capicator

its always better to have a capicator

not really unless your pushing serious power it wont make any/all diff ive got 2 amps going atm never have a problem with diming lights or voltage issue even during a full Db run

its always better to have a capicator

no, no its not

its always better to have a capicator

Why? :think:

1 dynamat bulk pack

how much (ballpark figure) for a dynamat bulk pack?
i need some lol. the rattles **** me (im sure youve seen my other thread[s])

while you guys are talking about all this
i have to ask, i just bought a new system, and want to know what you all think

headunit: EONON 838 (top of the range one)
sub: kicker VCVR124
amp: coustic c200 (got it because it has 2 X 25 fuses)
fronts: kicker ds600.2
rear: ds6390
wiring: sony 4 guage
& 1 dynamat bulk pack

cheers guys :)

how much (ballpark figure) for a dynamat bulk pack?
i need some lol. the rattles **** me (im sure youve seen my other thread[s])

220 from fleabay but the RRP is 299 can get it from any decent audio shop.

while you guys are talking about all this
i have to ask, i just bought a new system, and want to know what you all think

headunit: EONON 838 (top of the range one)
sub: kicker VCVR124
amp: coustic c200 (got it because it has 2 X 25 fuses)
fronts: kicker ds600.2
rear: ds6390
wiring: sony 4 guage
& 1 dynamat bulk pack

cheers guys :)

It looks like a decent JB Hifi system to me. 2x25A fuses don't mean much. My SRx2s has a single 30Amp blade and it makes over 600WRMS. :D

An amp for the speakers later on will do you the world of good. Its a solid base though.

220 from fleabay but the RRP is 299 can get it from any decent audio shop.

sweet thanks.

good luck 96_magna_TE btw