For anyone interested in these, a PowerChip technician will be up from Melbourne Saturday week for installations. I'm getting my stock TJ Sports done. He'll be working out of a workshop in Brookvale. $845 supplied and fitted is what im paying. Got it down from $899, what a huge savings..NOT

It better give me these promised figures. I'll have more torque (342Nm) and 3 less kw's (177Kw) than the Ralliart according to there figures.

Be cool to have a few Magnas there at once.

can you explain in more detail about this chip? what are the figures??

kev

nah i cant but their website can

www.powerchip.com

and i mentioned the figures for my car in my first post, check it out

http://www.powerchipgroup.com/interact/testimonials/view.asp?testid=1308

180kws by only spending around a thousandish dollars.... hmmmm

The pic is of a 3.0 auto

Lance, from PowerChip, is the blokes name who i arranged this with. And guess what sort of car he drives, ah MAGNA, oh yeh. At its gota PowerChip in it of course

I should have told him about AM so he could jump on here and tell us more about this Chip hey?

gremlin: how the installation go??

Saturday week mate!!! Meaning its this coming Saturday....

Why dont you come down and get yours done to??

Saturday week mate!!! Meaning its this coming Saturday....

Why dont you come down and get yours done to??

i aint got the money.... :cry: :cry: Otherwise i'd be down there with ya for sure!

Interesting point to express.

I lodged 2 different, separate, on-line queries with Powerchip long ago. One was for std engine (3L) the other one was with mods like muffler, headers etc - which basically should make a BIG difference after chipping. But - both queries produced same power gain. Bit odd ain't it! This made me quite cautious, as you can imagine.
Try it your self.

Yeah as if they've ever tested all the different mods one by one on every car to know what this increase will be. I dont even know why they offer that feature on their website, thats just bloody silly!

I think they would have had to chuck the chip on a standard Magna and Dyno it to get the outputs they state but i highly doubt if they put any mods on and tested it again one by one.

Look at all the cars they list on the site. It would be near impossible to Dyno all those cars with all the possible mods!!!!

Thats what i reckon neway, cheers

Also found this ont their website after posting the above:

Q: Is there a Powerchip available for a modified vehicle?

A: Depending upon what the modifications include. Powerchip’s will work on vehicles that have intake and exhaust flow modifications made. These modifications are the extent of what Powerchip programs are designed for.

Ok the "chip" is in. Its not a chip like i expected. Its a box about half the size of a tissue box with a whole lot of wires hanging out of it. Oh, and it has reprogrammable piggyback ecu written on it.

Well the car definitly has more power now.

Is it worth it? $845? Conisdering my extractors on my last car cost me about this and didnt even make half of the difference this has i'd have to say YES

The guy even showed me how to take it out (ie reconnect the wires he has cut) and said if i want to put it in a different car, send the computer down to them and they upload the correct file for the new car i buy.

There was another car getting done at the same time as mine. Happened to be a new Magna Wagon. I told the bloke about AM of course, i hope his signed up by now! Real nice bloke named Mark with a very nice looking black wagon. I've attached a pic but i took it with my 7250 so it looks pretty shitty....

well what was the gains after install?

Did you dyno it before and after?

Also.. Powerchips arent tested on cars.. they are tested under a programmed environment..

Unichips are a different story though.

Actually thats incorrect. They originally get a car a stick it on a dyno and do the job, then save it in their records, then upload it when its needed. Its the same as the unichip except the unichip is tuned on your actual car. Their is plenty of pro's and con's to each. The obvious to me are as follows

1. Unichip is good if you have mods as it will be tuned with the mods in effect.
2. Unichip has lots of room for error as it depends how good your tuner is (look at some guys on AM who got them. 2 guys both with TJ VRXs got unichips, one is perfect, the other is causing ideling problems)
3. Installation was less than 1 hour as no tuning was required as it was done already on a car along while back.

Basically my opinion is if your not going to do big mods, go for the Powerchip, if you are then get a unichip. But even with the unichip you dont get the software so you have to stick it back on a dyno and get it retuned when you do something. You can also do this with the powerchip but like the unichip you dont get the software so you have to pay someone else to do it for you.

Software.. Thats what KaZaA Lite is for.. :lol:

SuFz :badgrin:

hahahaha, mate if you can find it for me i'll slip you a couple of cases of beer!! :lol:

The only issue I have with this system is that every car is unique when it comes to tuning it. When you have tuned as many of them as we have you would realise this.

It is, I am not sure of the word here, but not correct to beleive you can simply use the same tune all the time on the same cars, especially when it comes to choices of fuels and mods done to the car.

We just finished tunign a lancer which a greddy with teh exact same mods as another lancer which had the exact same system, and had huge problems trying to get the car tuned properly. Downloaded as a starting point the same tune as the previous lancer but had to modify it in all different ways.

The point I am making is that using Someone elses tune, is not always good for your car and I would very seriously recomend against this.

The benefit of a unichip, greddy or any other system which is a programmable piggy back ECU, is that it is tuned in real time, on your car on a dyno and gives your car what it needs.

Its great to hear that you have got great results from it but you will also strike the same problem as chip systems, when you do other mods it will no longer be "In Tune" for your car.

Just something to think about thats all. :D

It is, I am not sure of the word here, but not correct to beleive you can simply use the same tune all the time on the same cars, especially when it comes to choices of fuels and mods done to the car.

Naive

Yep. I think we can safely assume that PowerChip would gain some 80 % of the potential of such application. Where as fully, individually programmed chips can reach 100% of their potential. Hence, results with PC are pretty close to home, but if one wants to perfect the matter, Greddy or UniChip or similar trick is required.

Now, all I need is some 1200 bux to continue the quest for grunt. Donations anyone? ;)



The benefit of a unichip, greddy or any other system which is a programmable piggy back ECU, is that it is tuned in real time, on your car on a dyno and gives your car what it needs.:D

Thanks Mitsiman, i totally understand what your saying.

I totally agree that the Powerchip is not for anyone wanting to do any further mods. As for me doing anything further mods, i'd be lucky if i even go to the stage of putting extractors on so i think the Powerchip should serve its purpose in my car.

As for problems, the car runs as smooth as it did before hand so hopefully it will stay that way!!! Its got a 3 year warranty so im not to worried about it.

Powerchip pretty much say the same thing as i am. If your going to do further mods then this is not for you. But in saying that the bloke from Powerchip told me they can retune the chip if i really want to if i do mods. As i said before, i wont be needing this though.

http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_0402/article.html

http://www.autospeed.com.au/cms/A_0408/article.html

An excerpt from this article...

AutoSpeed: Let's go back a bit to a point that we covered earlier; that is, the development procedure. Does Powerchip own a chassis dyno?

Wayne Besanko: We've actually looked at the benefits of owning a dynamometer and we have made a business decision that it is better for us to simply pay for dyno runs on an ad hoc basis.

AutoSpeed: Has Powerchip ever had an engine put onto an engine dyno and done any development in that manner?

Wayne Besanko: No, we have never felt the need to dyno test an engine on an engine dyno. The logistics of removing an engine from a car would mean that the cost of our chips would have to double or triple to allow for that sort of development. We have found that for full-load, full-throttle testing, a chassis dynamometer is the most practical way of going.

Something to think about...

Something to think about...

Which way?

And where have you been? Been missing your avator :lol:

Speaking of mullets, I've been listening to Bon Jovi lately. Even bought their latest DVD

which way, the bad way, the don't buy their stuff way. That's the way.

sold my Magna in October, that's why I'm never around

Thinking about it..

Yes i can see why they wouldnt buy an engine dyno and pull out engines for every car the make chips for. Cost to bloody much to prove what?

Cost to bloody much to prove what?

To prove that 15kw's they guarantee on their website of course... :roll:

Yeh but chassis dyno could give you a very good idea to. No need to go pulling engines out of cars is there?