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Schnell
10-01-2008, 05:08 PM
3 weeks ago I used the 3rd gen workshop manual someone kindly posted to the AMC site to do a full flush of my TF Sports auto trans. The fluid in the box was not the perfectly clear red colour it shoulda been, and I was getting the occasional rev flare between 2 and 3. Changed the trans filter and flushed 8.5 litres through it as the workshop manual instructed but found it was still not quite clear. So ran another 10 litres through it and got it totally clear red. Box shifts almost seamlesslessly now, no flaring tween 2 and 3 and performed faultlessly during recent 800km return thrash to Jenolan Caves.

Guys if you haven't done this yourselves, try it. It's not that hard, saves piles in service labour and yields amazing results.

Magna Rookie
11-01-2008, 01:11 PM
Will do!

Gerard
11-01-2008, 01:15 PM
what are these results?
women? wealth?

mjd26
11-01-2008, 04:16 PM
*EDIT!:
Subsequent to some later posts where the service manual link was found and posted; I have it on my computer. Here is the transmission service page for TH/KH/KF (http://www.adam.com.au/mjd26/transService.png).


...I used the 3rd gen workshop manual someone kindly posted to the AMC site t...

Congrats on doing a good job.
I shall hopefully follow suit. :)

Might I enquire if you are able to provide a link to the guide where it was posted? Might come in particularly handy as a reference for myself and others from your thread.
Thanks.

Schnell
11-01-2008, 05:07 PM
what are these results?
women? wealth?
Women. Definitely women. They just go all gooey for clear red auto trans fluid...

I'll hunt for the link to the workshop manual. It's actually a link istelf (ie., you download the file and then do an install to your PC HD).

Just finished the hunt and couldn't find the bloody thing. Maybe put up a post and see if someone knows where the manual is. In the meantime I did finda thread that had the excerpt outa the manula word-for-word on how to do the flush. Here tis...

Following is transcript from Magna/Verada workshop manual about replacing ATF.

1. Remove the right hand hose connecting the transmission fluid cooler pipe to the fluid cooler built into the bottom of the radiator

2. Connect a suitable length of hose from the radiator cooler pipe to the bucket

3. Start the engine and discharge the ATF , Neutral gear and idling

CAUTION: Start the engine and then stop it within one minute. If the ATF is discharged before the one minute elapses, stop the engine at that time.
Amount of ATF discharged: approximately 4.5 litres

4. Remove the drain plug at the bottom of the transmission case and discharge the ATF.
Amount of ATF discharged: approximately 1.0 litre

5. Change the external fluid filter.

6. Install the drain plug fitted with new gasket and tighten the plug with 32 Nm of torque.

7. Fill with new ATF through the dipstick tube.
Amount of ATF added: approximately 5.5 litres

NOTE: Stop pouring if the entire amount of new ATF cannot be added (do not exceed "Cold" level)

8. Repeat the procedure in step (3) and discharge approximately 3.0 litres of ATF.

NOTE: Check the ATF discharged in step (8) for contamination. If it is contaminated, repeat steps (7) and (8)

9. Add the new ATF through the dipstick tube.
Amount of ATF added: approximately 3.0 litres

10. Attach and secure the hose that was disconnected in step (1) and insert dipstick

11. Start the engine and let it idle for one or two minutes

12. Move the selector lever through all gear positions, ending in Neutral position

13. Make sure the ATF reaches the "Cold" mark on the dipstick. If there is not enough ATF, add more

14. Drive the car until the ATF reaches normal 70-80 degrees Celsius and recheck the ATF level. The ATF level must be within the "Hot" range.

NOTE: The "Cold" level is for reference only and the "Hot" level serves as the standard.

ishtalk
14-01-2008, 02:12 PM
yeah if you could find the link to the third gen work shop manual, id appreciate it. I been searching since you noted that you could. Cheers

Schnell
14-01-2008, 07:14 PM
Still can't find the bloody thing. It was a link in someone else's post about 3 months ago. I'll put up a new post asking of anyone has any idea of where it is :)

s_tim_ulate
14-01-2008, 07:38 PM
http://www.lisho.net/?page_id=3

mjd26
14-01-2008, 08:27 PM
Still can't find the bloody thing. It was a link in someone else's post about 3 months ago. I'll put up a new post asking of anyone has any idea of where it is :)

Awesome; thanks for that.
And thankyou very much for posting the transcript above; even without the manual link it's pretty good. :)


http://www.lisho.net/?page_id=3

Legend.
Thanks for the link.
Downloading now.

... Thank god for ADSL2+.

scottmuecke
16-01-2008, 10:20 PM
dont wont to sound like an idiot but, where can i get a transmission filter from, rather not get it through Mistu as they like to rip people off
eg. wanted $16 for a headlight Bulb. lol

mjd26
17-01-2008, 05:48 AM
dont wont to sound like an idiot but, where can i get a transmission filter from, rather not get it through Mistu as they like to rip people off
eg. wanted $16 for a headlight Bulb. lol

Got "Sprints" in your area? Generally they are acclaimed to be the best for that sort of thing. :)

Schnell
17-01-2008, 06:35 AM
Got "Sprints" in your area? Generally they are acclaimed to be the best for that sort of thing. :)

Or Autopro or Repco.

scottmuecke
17-01-2008, 10:21 AM
with regaurds to transmission fluid, is it the same deal, or is it better to get the stuff from Mitsu?

ash
17-01-2008, 12:17 PM
with regaurds to transmission fluid, is it the same deal, or is it better to get the stuff from Mitsu?


For my car TP I have to use the mitsu stuff for the gearbox I think it only takes a certain grade or something I've been told it doesn't take multigrade trans fluid

Lorlorpy
17-01-2008, 02:39 PM
with regaurds to transmission fluid, is it the same deal, or is it better to get the stuff from Mitsu?

Bursons in Vic should be able to help with the filter and correct grade of fluid. Either give them a ring or go down there and explain to them what car you've got (engine/trans/year etc) and they will be able to get you everything you need. Usually (but not always) they are cheaper than REPCO for parts and will only supply quality stuff, not like Supercheap who, while they have some good brands, also sell poor quaility crap.

Tessa403
17-01-2008, 03:08 PM
Bursons in Vic should be able to help with the filter and correct grade of fluid. Either give them a ring or go down there and explain to them what car you've got (engine/trans/year etc) and they will be able to get you everything you need. Usually (but not always) they are cheaper than REPCO for parts and will only supply quality stuff, not like Supercheap who, while they have some good brands, also sell poor quaility crap.

I got a deal done for our local footy Club (northern saints FC) we get a very good discount at our local Repco.

mjd26
17-01-2008, 04:05 PM
Or Autopro or Repco.
Around here in Adelaide, REPCO is known by its full name rather than the acronym of:
"Rip Every Poor Chap Off"

Where Chap may (or may not) be replaced with certain socialy unacceptable terms for a part of the female human anatony. Generally; repco are really really expensive relative to the rest of the others available.

magna00
17-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Bursons in Vic should be able to help with the filter and correct grade of fluid. Either give them a ring or go down there and explain to them what car you've got (engine/trans/year etc) and they will be able to get you everything you need. Usually (but not always) they are cheaper than REPCO for parts and will only supply quality stuff, not like Supercheap who, while they have some good brands, also sell poor quaility crap.

Bursons are quite good i order quite a bit of gear through them. As for the supercheap comment go have a look at there ordering system if you cant find the exact part you are looking for in a brand name then it isnt made hehe.

SGTRMI
17-01-2008, 07:58 PM
3 weeks ago I used the 3rd gen workshop manual someone kindly posted to the AMC site to do a full flush of my TF Sports auto trans. The fluid in the box was not the perfectly clear red colour it shoulda been, and I was getting the occasional rev flare between 2 and 3. Changed the trans filter and flushed 8.5 litres through it as the workshop manual instructed but found it was still not quite clear. So ran another 10 litres through it and got it totally clear red. Box shifts almost seamlesslessly now, no flaring tween 2 and 3 and performed faultlessly during recent 800km return thrash to Jenolan Caves.

Guys if you haven't done this yourselves, try it. It's not that hard, saves piles in service labour and yields amazing results.

Dude on that link u posted on the following posts you have posted in this thread, they dont have manuals for TF magnas :(....any ideas on where i can get my hands on one?

s_tim_ulate
17-01-2008, 07:59 PM
Tranny fluid is cheaper from mitsu compared to most retail outlets (one of the few things)

SGTRMI
17-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Tranny fluid is cheaper from mitsu compared to most retail outlets (one of the few things)

hey boss :).....since tranny fluid is cheaper from mitsu, would it be cheaper to get our cars serviced there? :)

Schnell
18-01-2008, 06:44 AM
Dude on that link u posted on the following posts you have posted in this thread, they dont have manuals for TF magnas :(....any ideas on where i can get my hands on one?

Ah bugger. The manual I have has both auto and manual trans. But I have no idea where the link is :cry:

Schnell
18-01-2008, 06:48 AM
Around here in Adelaide, REPCO is known by its full name rather than the acronym of:
"Rip Every Poor Chap Off"

Where Chap may (or may not) be replaced with certain socialy unacceptable terms for a part of the female human anatony. Generally; repco are really really expensive relative to the rest of the others available.

Yeah, it used to be the same here in Canberra. The weird part is that in the last 12 months that's changed. Repco in Phillip have an Autopro next to them and Autopro was always cheaper. What seemed to change things was when Auto-one (Rare Spares) moved in another two doors up about 6 months ago. Auto-ne are now typically the cheapest of the three, but Repco's prices have dropped to be quite close to them. Anyways, I use Autoone as they always know what they are talking about and all their staff seem genuine enthusiasts rather than being talking heads who just work in a car parts shop.

Lorlorpy
18-01-2008, 10:20 PM
Bursons are quite good i order quite a bit of gear through them. As for the supercheap comment go have a look at there ordering system if you cant find the exact part you are looking for in a brand name then it isnt made hehe.

Haha, I'm new to the site but not THAT new, I know some of the members talk of Supercheap as though they work there (I'm not sure who, or which stores, but I belive a couple of members do). I wasn't having a go at the quality of ALL of the Supercheap products, they have alot of good stuff at good prices. I also don't have an issue with the fact that they run the store as a normal retail store, rather than employing car enthusiasts, this also helps keep the costs down. I just find that when I go to Bursons and explain what I'm trying to do or what I want to buy they can give me good advice and they know what parts fit what, they have normally done the same repairs before and can advise me of pitfalls etc and their prices are good. No issue with Supercheap and have gladly bought parts through them in the past. Will continue to get oil/coolant/fluids and filters from them because they are cheaper. The "cheap crap" comment was more based around the range of tools (cheap Taiwanese air tools, socket sets, spanners etc)....having said that, these things also have a market with people who don't use their tools on a regular basis and don't need a Sidchrome or JBS Socket set or Snap-on air gun. No harm meant, it was a casual comment.....PEACE lol