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Nexus
11-01-2008, 06:40 PM
The TE-> TJ boot lid convert is an easy process, but there are several things you need in order to get the conversion right. This is a write up of the process. Would be nice for those who know what needs to be done for KJ tail lights to add on to my thread here.

Here are the following items required from the TJ.
1. TJ boot lid (To be sprayed to the colour of your car) cost about $250 -> $300.00 for it to be colour coded to your car's colour.

2. A Set of TJ tail lights (as the structure and shape of the TJ boot lid is different you need a set of TJ tail lights) Note you can purchase Altezza TJ tail lights as well in Carbon or Clear Chrome or even tinted . In terms of legalities is up to the police to evaluate what they deem as legal.

For this example I am using Clear chrome ones:

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3842/irwinjessicawedding0589bl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


3. Wiring loom sockets for the tail lights, the TJ uses a different wiring loom and is not easy to find these loom as they come with the whole tail light assembly from Mitsubishi and cannot be separated. Each tail light cost $218.00 from the dealers. I suggest you can find the wiring loom from the wreckers. This may cost about $30.00 for each wiring loom. Note some wrecker would not want to sell separate which makes this conversion hard.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5881/wireloomtf2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



4. You need the number plate light sockets which is the wire harness from the TJ boot lid. There 2 ways about this mod. You can use the current one in your TE/TF/TH but cut the sockets for the number plate lights and solder or join them to the existing one. Alternatively you may choose to use the TJ boot lid wire harness which require you to disassemble the wiring of your TE/TF/TH and put in the TJ one.

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4147/numberplatesocketslu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


5. You need the entire TJ boot lid lock mechanism. Remove the TJ key boot lock by removing the TJ garnish. Let a Lock smith to code the lock to your current Magna Car Key. This would cost you about $25.00 ->$40.00 depending on the lock smith.

6. Optional new badges or use existing or don’t put any badges. Your choice

Tools needed:
1. Pliers
2. Socket and ratchet
3. Wire connector (if you intend to use existing wire from TE.
4. A second helping hand would best help to get your boot lid in place nicely.

Procedure
Remove old TE lights and put in your new TJ/TL lights.
Once your boot lid is sprayed and ready to place it in, take off the current TE boot lid. Ensure your boot lid does not have any of the cables attached, mainly the boot release cable and the wire harness for the number plate lights with grounding wire.
Once you are sure nothing else is attaching to the current boot lid other than the 4 attaching bolts you are set.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9554/bootlid4boltsep8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



Remove the bolts one at a time and one from each side. I leave one loose on each side which I can just urn out by hand. If your friend is around to help then is easy. If not I would lower the boot lid slightly and remove them slowly. You should be able to remove the boot lid. Please don’t let it drop on to your rear windscreen.
Now place your TJ boot lid on and line it up the same place as your TE boot lid.

BEFORE you attempt to close the boot lid to see whether it locks, ensure your KEY is working with the new TJ boot lock and you could also place the boot lock release cable on.
You may need to adjust the boot hook to ensure the boot lid locks on to the catch. Adjust boot lid dampers to ensure they sit flush on your magna.

You should be somewhere done just having to place your wire harness for the number plate back in place . You can cut and join the TJ’s sockets for the number plates which may save you some time and trouble removing the whole harness.
Enjoy you TJ boot lid mod.


FAQ
1. I love the TJ clear lights can I just buy them and place them with my TE boot lid.
Answer: No, firstly the clear lights do not include the wire loom and you need to get a pair. Secondly I tried this and the TE boot lid will hit the tail light which may result in damaging your tail lights.
2. Can I use a TL boot lid instead?
Answer: Yes BUT you need to change the rear bumper to a TL’s version as well. The TJ is the best candidate for this mod.
3. What if I stupidly close the boot lid when I have not coded the boot lid lock to my magna’s?
Answer: You can call a lock smith which would cost you quite a bit OR squeeze in to the back access panel from the back seat and unhook the lock to open it. In any case, I have warned that you should first code the boot lock to your set of keys by removing the boot lock for the lock smith and letting your painter to spray the parts for you.

4. What if I want to use Verada KJ lights?
Answer: Some modification is needed to be done on the wire loom to make this work, is not too difficult, I would let members who done this to add their knowledge to this thread.

Nexus
11-01-2008, 06:41 PM
In an event of your boot lid got lock with no key to open:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7672/bootlockdg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7672/bootlockdg4.f835c47a22.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=bootlockdg4.jpg)

If you notice the connecting rod to the lock can be removed in an event of a "Lock" but you need a touch light to know how to remove the rod and release the lock catch.

End result is you convert from the old boot lid :

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2199/tebootlidst8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

To:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1882/bootlidtj1xq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ts3.0
11-01-2008, 08:40 PM
good write up, very detailed. on a side note imo its a pity you didnt get the carbon tail lights they would have looked much better, not a fan of the clear ones

tj02
11-01-2008, 09:42 PM
:stoopid: still a great write up tho, good to see you're making some mods irwin!

lenda
11-01-2008, 09:46 PM
oh very nice, looks heaps different, congrats, and great right up!

BJ31OS
12-01-2008, 05:14 AM
looks great nice write up

Billy Mason PI
12-01-2008, 05:50 AM
Looks great and it appears that you got the TJ boot lid colour matched really well with the rest of the car.

Nexus
12-01-2008, 08:45 AM
I was actually set on the carbons but they did not appeal to me when I look at them again.
Somehow they dont look carbon enough and is like they remove the chrome area thats all.

Thanks Mike, I am of course still with AMC WA, is just that I am working shifts making me hard to join the events now, but I defiantely am looking forward in any events you guys organise.

Mr_Roberto
12-01-2008, 08:58 AM
ah so you finally got it all sorted
well done Irwin looks tops mate :D
also good write up
any shots of the whole back end?

Nexus
12-01-2008, 09:03 AM
ah so you finally got it all sorted
well done Irwin looks tops mate :D
also good write up
any shots of the whole back end?

Have been lazy and driving the 2nd car. lol
I will take a better shot when I get the time as pictures inside the garage dont look as great.

oldzguy
12-01-2008, 09:32 PM
nice write up,absolutely spot on in detail.
We filled key hole for a cleaner look and use
inside cable to open boot. cheers:)

Life
15-11-2008, 09:24 PM
Hey guys

I got my TJ lid, and I could only get TW lights cheap - not TJ ... Anybody know if TW lights will fit properly, I know something sits out of alignment but I'm not sure what exactly...

Cheers,
Dean

Mr_Roberto
15-11-2008, 09:26 PM
they'll fit fine but there'll be a little gap at the top corner of the light between the boot lid
if that makes sense

Life
15-11-2008, 09:28 PM
they'll fit fine but there'll be a little gap at the top corner of the light between the boot lid
if that makes sense
Noticable enough to tint them, sell them, then buy some of these? http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34621&d=1200144750

or fine from a distance?

Mr_Roberto
15-11-2008, 09:46 PM
Noticable enough to tint them, sell them, then buy some of these? http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34621&d=1200144750

or fine from a distance?

actually they should be fine, im thinking of the TL bootlid cause it has a bigger round then the TJ one

Life
15-11-2008, 11:05 PM
Hmm,

What do you guys think of this (Provided the TW tails don't look right).

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2166/54395105al1.jpg
TJ Altezza Tails with 50% tint.

Stoyven
20-12-2008, 09:46 AM
BUMP

didnt think this question was worthy of a new thread, is it possibly to do a TJ tail light conversion still with the TH boot lid?

ive tried to put them on but the boot hits the light, is there a way around this?

Cheers

Life
20-12-2008, 10:05 AM
BUMP

didnt think this question was worthy of a new thread, is it possibly to do a TJ tail light conversion still with the TH boot lid?

ive tried to put them on but the boot hits the light, is there a way around this?

Cheers

Hey dude, only way is a boot lid swap unless you want to start cutting and reshaping plastic.

Stoyven
20-12-2008, 11:57 AM
i dont think i can reshape plastic :doh:

ohwell....sell the lights? buy a boot lid? hm....

Life
20-12-2008, 12:08 PM
i dont think i can reshape plastic :doh:

ohwell....sell the lights? buy a boot lid? hm....

I suggest the boot lid, mine has been repaired and primed, its about to be sprayed - cant wait :) Been using TW tails on my TH boot lid lol. Takes alot to close the boot.

Rory_newton
20-12-2008, 01:05 PM
So what would the total cost be of converting to a TJ boot?? (inc paint etc)??

alscall
20-12-2008, 03:15 PM
So what would the total cost be of converting to a TJ boot?? (inc paint etc)??

Prob all depends on how much you pay for the parts required. The rear bar, the bootlid etc, can all be sourced from wreckers so it depends how much they charge you, really.

Life
22-12-2008, 02:50 PM
So what would the total cost be of converting to a TJ boot?? (inc paint etc)??

A tj boot conversion requires the following:

2x TJ-TW Tail Lights (TL/TW will have a very slight misalignment, not enough to worry about)
2x Tail light wiring harnesses (if you're lucky your lights will come with them, otherwise $30 for mitsu)
1x A TJ boot lid

The boot lid will cost anywhere from $100-$180 depending on location, condition, etc... Tail lights start at $100 and go up to $200.

On top of your tail light and boot lid costs you're looking at about $150-200 to get it sprayed, and $50 to get the barral recoded as the key wont work without it.

So, cost will a minimum of $400 (with barral) or $350 without.

I was quite lucky with the lights (cost me $50), but the boot lid was $160, and painting+repairs (it had a spoiler) $150 as well, so my conversion cost is costing around $360 (I had the boot lock shaved as part of my repairs).

Life
09-01-2009, 09:58 PM
And the final result (The swap only took 10 minutes, the TW tails were already on).

http://s419.photobucket.com/albums/pp271/db_newman/Life/TJ%20Boot%20Lid/

The boot lid has been repaired (previously had a spoiler), the keyhole has been shaved, and it has been painted mawson white.

lenda
20-01-2009, 09:13 PM
sorry if this is a stupid question but where do i get the key barrel recoded?

the other thing is the boot release cable, can i just remove the one from my th boot and use it in my tj boot, as the one thats in there is cut?

Life
20-01-2009, 09:17 PM
sorry if this is a stupid question but where do i get the key barrel recoded?

the other thing is the boot release cable, can i just remove the one from my th boot and use it in my tj boot, as the one thats in there is cut?

1. A locksmith - but I would recommend shaving it instead, looks cleaner :)
2. Yes you can, I have done this myself

lenda
20-01-2009, 09:19 PM
and the other thing is can i use my TH lights? same is in regards to the number plate?

Harty
20-01-2009, 09:20 PM
You should be able to use your existing boot release cable. Worked on my TF.

I got the lock changed at a locksmith just down the road from me. Just leave them with the lock and a key, it cost about $20.

Life
28-01-2009, 06:16 AM
and the other thing is can i use my TH lights? same is in regards to the number plate?
No you cannot, you'll have to swap to the TJ one... Same globe type, and the bulb holder is better designed (no unscrewing to change a bulb). Reason is the lenses are longer on the TJ boot lid...

*edit* I would suggest shaving the lock, its cheaper and you have a remote anyways... if you are scared about it getting stuck closed grab a manual release cable from a TL-TW (the pull ring). I just looks so cleaner

MagnaAussie
15-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Has anyone git pics on a TE with a KJ boot ?

MagnaAussie
20-05-2009, 05:28 PM
What I should ask is Can I use a KJ boot instead of a TJ boot for the install ?

Life
20-05-2009, 05:31 PM
What I should ask is Can I use a KJ boot instead of a TJ boot for the install ?
Of course! :)