Hey all, ive been reading up on here for some time now learning about what i can do to my magna, i own a TE execitve Auto with neally 200Ks on it, but has been looked after, only had one previous owner who kept up with all services.
I was never 100% kean on the car untill i drove it for a while, and i started loving it more and more. any way i decided that i want to mod this car up, rather than go down the path of all my other mates and just go for a commo.
Any way i came here for advise on what i should do to the car to get it going and make it able to rip a commo off the line, im not looking for top speed just the ability to rip any thing off the line.
if any one can help me and give me some good pointers on what i should do and also could tell me how much i would be looking at spening it would be appreciated.
O and also i would like to leave it as a N/A car for the time been as im on my P's

ill direct you to
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54788

and welcome to the club. Have you got the 2.4 or the 30.l in your car?

3L V6, and thanks for the link, ill have a good read through that and see what i can find

welcome mate, there are plenty of mods you can do to the car

is yours an auto? If it was manual, i would be already quite happy

start looking into exhaust mods, larger lines, extractors, muffler.

do a search for NA modifications etc and you'll find plenty of posts..

Hey,

I assume you have 3.0 v6? Magna’s by their nature already have pretty good kw to weight ratio, my TJ 3.5 litre takes a commodore (3.8 ecotek) of the mark with no problems. My first advice is get a cannon muffler, you would be surprised how much difference it makes. Magna’s stock exhaust is pretty good, except its kinda stuffed up by a very restrictive muffler design, I guess to keep it quiet.

To be honest I wouldn’t tune/chip/piggyback your ECU until you get some more serious mods, like full exhaust & Cold Air Intake (CAI).

Also you might wonna get a K&N panel air filter for the time being (about $80), will make some difference as well (it did with my car). But obviously if you wona get a CAI with pod filter later you will have to get rid of it.
Cheers

thanks for the advise, ive already changed the rear muf to a sports one which is just about straight through i was told, he told me not to change it to cannon cause it would be to loud as the rear muffeler is the main one in the car and it would be cop bait. it also had to do with the fact that my old man got it for me as a gift and he doesnt want to deal with the noise when i come home at night haha

convert it to manual and do an exhaust, no homo cannons, a well designed CAI setup and thats it.... nothing else is worth your time/money

with the exhaust should i do the full thing or just parts like extractors, cat converters?

thanks for the advise, ive already changed the rear muf to a sports one which is just about straight through i was told, he told me not to change it to cannon cause it would be to loud as the rear muffeler is the main one in the car and it would be cop bait. it also had to do with the fact that my old man got it for me as a gift and he doesnt want to deal with the noise when i come home at night haha

Hahahaha good point man, about cops no toruble for me so far, i have 2 double barrel cannons on both sides of my car, noise is easily fixed with silencers that came with the muffler, although each double barrel did cost me $330 supply only (DRIFT), where you can easily pik a normral one for about $50.

Exhaust from cat back is pretty good in a magna, just get exractors, ive heard high flow cat doesnt do much unless you have a decent turbo ar supecharger set up.

Cheers

hey mate, yeah im in pretty much same boat as you. just go rear exhaust as you have allready done. and mabey some extractors, dont worry about a CAI or other exhaust mods, save up some money and put in cams. and then go piggyback ECU, you should be happy with the results. and if you still wanted more, up the compression ratio from the standard 9:1

Hahahaha good point man, about cops no toruble for me so far, i have 2 double barrel cannons on both sides of my car, noise is easily fixed with silencers that came with the muffler, although each double barrel did cost me $330 supply only (DRIFT), where you can easily pik a normral one for about $50.

Exhaust from cat back is pretty good in a magna, just get exractors, ive heard high flow cat doesnt do much unless you have a decent turbo ar supecharger set up.

Cheers

haha yeh and i was looking at the $50 ones before my old man suprised me, also i like what ive done now better than a cannon, on this car any way, ive got twin tips bent down, looks quite nice
ok so ill look into getting extractors for the car, just wondering on two things atm, how much would a manual conversion cost and also should i look into any thing like a new throtal body?

hey mate, yeah im in pretty much same boat as you. just go rear exhaust as you have allready done. and mabey some extractors, dont worry about a CAI or other exhaust mods, save up some money and put in cams. and then go piggyback ECU, you should be happy with the results. and if you still wanted more, up the compression ratio from the standard 9:1
lol you just got that post in as i was posting, i was thinking of a stage one cam like lenda with the N/A set up, that i might do a bit later, or earlier depenind on how much a manual con will set me back

if you want it to be fastish and plan to mod it further get the whole exhaust done at the same time rather than later. This includes a hi flow cat. While it won't restrict a factory set up it'll hinder you later down the track.
Could do the extractors separately as they're bolt on.

To make these go fast think supercharger, twin turbo or cams and head work. Plenty of info on here about all 3.

But in reality you'll never have an advantage launching. Its a fwd and to be honest to get off the line quicker the only thing would be to get a quaife lsd and a whiteline antilift kit. Fwd's have their advantages in top end power.

Eg if you're good you might be able to get your 60ft's under 2s with this set up which could probably be beaten by a stock skyline.

im not looking for top speed just the ability to rip any thing off the line.

O and also i would like to leave it as a N/A car for the time been as im on my P's

Cars of similar age to yours you shouldnt have many issues with 'ripping off the line'

Newer cars you generally wont have a chance with. So ripping anything off the line is something youll have to change to 'ripping similar year cars off the line'

NA high end HP can be attained - so long as you have deep pockets..




Eg if you're good you might be able to get your 60ft's under 2s with this set up which could probably be beaten by a stock skyline.
lol..

If hes getting sub 2sec 60foot launches hed be doing high 12's low 13's..

A magna doing those without serious engine work is funny :)

If hes getting sub 2sec 60foot launches hed be doing high 12's low 13's..

A magna doing those without serious engine work is funny :)

But i do like the sound of that lol

But i do like the sound of that lol

then be prepared to not drive your car for months on end while the motor is rebuilt and i hope you have real deep pockets hehe

:cry: i wish. . . but im willing to give it a shot, just gonna work my ass off and see where i can go, and i probly will turbo the car, but it wont be for 3 years, till im off my p's

:cry: i wish. . . but im willing to give it a shot, just gonna work my ass off and see where i can go, and i probly will turbo the car, but it wont be for 3 years, till im off my p's

How serious?

We get alot of "P platers' with big dreams and "im gonna do this" attitudes that eventually turn around to say "my magna's a POS cause it cant beat xr6 turbo's"... Are you one of these P Platers?

Think of the Magna as a cruiser with some poke. The car is designed to look good. Going fast in it is something only serious 'players' spend money on. By spending we are talking in excess of 10k to get it into the low 13's bracket...


Btw, if youre looking for cheap mods for big gains. The magna is not the car you want.

i know, ive read a few forums with p platers like that, but im not one of them, things will be slow at least for now i will admit to that but im not gonna give up on it, dont put me in the same book with them, i dont just go ahead and say im gonna do something i look into it and see what can be done, and when i say im going to do it i keep going untill the job is done, so as said it is going to be slow for now but i will keep working at it

How serious?
We get alot of "P platers' with big dreams and "im gonna do this" attitudes that eventually turn around to say "my magna's a POS cause it cant beat xr6 turbo's"... Are you one of these P Platers?
Think of the Magna as a cruiser with some poke. The car is designed to look good. Going fast in it is something only serious 'players' spend money on. By spending we are talking in excess of 10k to get it into the low 13's bracket...
Btw, if youre looking for cheap mods for big gains. The magna is not the car you want.
this guy should be like admin or something

this guy should be like admin or something
I reckon, this Bain fellow must own an XR6 turbo or something :D

i know, ive read a few forums with p platers like that, but im not one of them, things will be slow at least for now i will admit to that but im not gonna give up on it, dont put me in the same book with them, i dont just go ahead and say im gonna do something i look into it and see what can be done, and when i say im going to do it i keep going untill the job is done, so as said it is going to be slow for now but i will keep working at it


Be prepared to spend some serious dollars on your car then!
But if you have the commitment and the cash then it is possible. Just make sure you definitelywant the car for along time, you wont get any of the cash you've spent on it bcak if you sell it.

Have you put any thought into doing some cosmetic mods on the car as well? Much cheaper, and more benefits. But I guess that’s a matter of opinions!

ive got ideas, thinking of a body kit and im gonna be lowering it later, but atm, im just in for the sound system im puting in atm and then engin work, but i think the body kit and the looks of the car will come last

lol..

If hes getting sub 2sec 60foot launches hed be doing high 12's low 13's..

A magna doing those without serious engine work is funny :)

actually JasonVRX ran a 2.06 when running his 14.006 and TZABOY 2.16 (both ralliart lsd's)and Sports 2.10 and he didnt even have an lsd and was a in a weighty TL.

So i think it'd quite possible for a 3rd gen with mild mods and with a quaife to crack 2's.

I also remember telling people ages ago i was going to do stuff to my car which they didnt believe would happen. thats probably half the reason i did it. Also cause my car is cheap. lol

Edit* you'll have to change to a manual lol also even that getting off the line will be alot quicker too unless you get a stally saying that it'll still have the auto long gearing.

actually JasonVRX ran a 2.06 when running his 14.006 and TZABOY 2.16 (both ralliart lsd's)and Sports 2.10 and he didnt even have an lsd and was a in a weighty TL.


2.041 thankyou :P

Cams, headwork, compression, nitrous. :D

actually JasonVRX ran a 2.06 when running his 14.006 and TZABOY 2.16 (both ralliart lsd's)and Sports 2.10 and he didnt even have an lsd and was a in a weighty TL.


Its still not a sub 2 second 60foot.. milliseconds = lots of horsepower when you get into the mid 13's and below if you want to improve on your 60foot..

When someone gets it (with proof) i bet you they will do a high 12 or low-mid 13 pass.



Shaggy: Good to hear youre not one of those clowns who claim alot and do nothing.

Like GoTRICE he claimed and backed up. :) and his is a 2nd gen.. hawt!

thanks Bain. also ive got a few questions just to work out my plan of what im going to do,
1. with the cams what would benifit me more, stage one or stage two?
2. it was said on another forum that the auto boxs cant handle the stage two cams, becomes to lumpy, is there any thing else i should be looking out for that the auto box cant take? i will be getting a manual con, just plaing when i get it.
3. im thinking of supercharging the car, (in 3 years when off my p's), is there any thing i can do to prepear for this? or any thing i shouldnt do to the car if going down this path?
4. has any one had good results with a supercharger and have as good results as a turbo?

thanks for the suport people

Its still not a sub 2 second 60foot.. milliseconds = lots of horsepower when you get into the mid 13's and below if you want to improve on your 60foot..

When someone gets it (with proof) i bet you they will do a high 12 or low-mid 13 pass.



Shaggy: Good to hear youre not one of those clowns who claim alot and do nothing.

Like GoTRICE he claimed and backed up. :) and his is a 2nd gen.. hawt!

my awd with 20" wheels full trim full tank and not max power tune did 2.01 60ft times

that was when s/c'd

stock it did 2.4 60ft times

and as they say every 10th of your 60ft time can = as much as 3 tenths at the line.. well worked out for my car when going from na to s/c

with better torque convertor and proper wheels 15's like i ad on it when i traded it, no question that it'd easily go under 2.0 sec on the 60ft

with std motor and 15's it launched as hard as s/c'd and 20's off the mark... once you hit 4k in 1st it's a completly different story...

AWD magna is completely different tho. That's like saying my EVO does 1.8 60 foot times.

Being only an auto and a 3L there's not a great start, if you want extra power a manual conversion will probably be your best bet dollar/kw ratio, however there are other things you can do. PM a member/admin called "Hypertf", he had a fairly worked auto 3L which was very quick.
But in summary:
New intake
New muffler (this is a MUST), possibly new exhaust piping while you're there not sure how good the TE's were in this regard
Piggyback ecu to get a better tune.

just to note.... post up a budget....

you can make a 3.0L auto go fast

there is an automatic 3.0L diamante (turbo) that runs low 12's with crazy wheelspin...

i'd say fast enough and it's still 3.0L not 3.5L and auto not manual and only runs on 94ron

my awd with 20" wheels full trim full tank and not max power tune did 2.01 60ft times

that was when s/c'd

stock it did 2.4 60ft times

and as they say every 10th of your 60ft time can = as much as 3 tenths at the line.. well worked out for my car when going from na to s/c

with better torque convertor and proper wheels 15's like i ad on it when i traded it, no question that it'd easily go under 2.0 sec on the 60ft

with std motor and 15's it launched as hard as s/c'd and 20's off the mark... once you hit 4k in 1st it's a completly different story...

Heres an apple.. and heres a 2 month old child with leprocy....


Lets compare how similar they are...
:doubt:

Heres an apple.. and heres a 2 month old child with leprocy....


Lets compare how similar they are...
:doubt:
It depends on whether the apple is peeled or not i would think... And if it was being held by the 2 month olds hand at the time. lol

just to note.... post up a budget....

you can make a 3.0L auto go fast

there is an automatic 3.0L diamante (turbo) that runs low 12's with crazy wheelspin...

i'd say fast enough and it's still 3.0L not 3.5L and auto not manual and only runs on 94ron
Budget isnt a isue as i dont want to limit my self, also on that i like to know whats needed and save for it. all and all though i guess a cut off before supercharger would be maby 7k, thought that may change, depends on what i plan with the car
also on the note of the 3L to the 3.5, is it worth not doing this car and finding a 3.5L? whats the diffrence and what has more potential?

Put a manual in it. You will knock a second off straight away.

If your budget is 7k, forget it. Budget for about 20k and you'll be in the game with a real good shot.

No offense, but imo you would be crazy to start pouring money into a car with 200thou km's.

what would u recomend then? as said the car is going stromg with no problems

what would u recomend then? as said the car is going stromg with no problems

its your car and you do as you wish converting to a manual would be the go, however at the end of the day unless you are really prepared to spend wads of cash it wont be the fastest car out there. IMHO just save the 7k and look at a tj or above with a 3.5 manual or a manual ralliart.

does the 3.5 have more potential than the 3? im guessing yes but i want ppls opinions

does the 3.5 have more potential than the 3? im guessing yes but i want ppls opinions

turbo'ing, i believe not.

s/c'ing i believe so.

na i believe so.

No offense, but imo you would be crazy to start pouring money into a car with 200thou km's.

Nitrous :D ... Then > Bang! :shock: > Then > Rebuild :dancin:

just wondering, whats the regulations on air filters in VIC? i was told pod filters arnt alowed? and would it be benifishal to replace the entire box and pannel filter with the pod filter? or just go and replace the pannel filter with another?

usually you have to have the pod boxed so that it isnt visible, usually the easier and cheaper option is a k&n panel replacement part no:kn33-2151 can get them from 90-120ish fits directly into the original airbox gives a slight increase in power but when i put my filter in it seems to rev a tad smoother. You can build you own CAI (see search button) that will maybe net a few hp.