View Full Version : Single cheap sub with 2channel non-bridge amp?
RoGuE_StreaK
27-01-2008, 06:05 PM
OK, got a cheapie 12" sub in a small sealed box, and an old 2channel amp (not sure of power), that isn't marked as supporting bridging; what should I do?
Amp is marked as 4ohm x 2, (-) poles are next to each other, which from the brief search that I've done isn't how most bridgeable amps are laid out; usually (+)(-)(+)(-)?
Should I just use the one channel, attempt a bridge of some sort, or run the channels in parallel?
PS. In case it isn't blatantly obvious, I have no clue about subs and amps; I've done a lot of general electrical work, and standard house stereo stuff, but never really touched anything to do with bridging etc.
M4DDOG
27-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Got a model number or brand for the amp?
Listen to it bridged and listen to it un-bridged and if its the same output (or you get no output) then you can't bridge, if bridging is louder well yeh pretty self explanatory :).
RoGuE_StreaK
27-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Pretty sure the amp's one of those ones Crazy Clarkes used to sell with a pair of 8" woofers, it's an XLogic XL652P, which searches reveal absolutely no info on (no hits fullstop).
Because of the non-standard layout of the outputs, I don't know which terminals to attempt to bridge to begin with; do I connect the sub to both (+)'s, and connect the two (-)'s together?
Just had a look at the sub's box, and it's 4ohm also.
I've pulled the amp apart and it looks like a reasonably simple circuit, so could possibly come up with a schematic if need be.
PS. Yes I know I won't get earth-shattering sound, I'm just after a tiny bit more bottom end, and couldn't justify spending more than my stereo's worth on it.
EuRoZac
27-01-2008, 09:10 PM
Because of the non-standard layout of the outputs, I don't know which terminals to attempt to bridge to begin with; do I connect the sub to both (+)'s, and connect the two (-)'s together?
Pick someting with tonal variation of your source so it's a bit easier to notice the difference.
First try 1 channel by itself (the 1st + and -) and take note, then, just for thrillls, so the 2nd channel. Take note of the output/SPL.
Next, connect to the + of CH1 and the - of CH2. Replay your test music and see how you go. If there's not much difference you can try the - of CH1 and the + of CH2, but's unlikely to make a difference.
s_tim_ulate
28-01-2008, 05:15 AM
Cant expect too much from cheap gear...
Buy jaycar if you're on a budget
RoGuE_StreaK
28-01-2008, 07:31 AM
I'm not expecting much. I just figure that as I have a 2channel amp, rather than leaving one channel unused I may as well see if I can tie in the 2nd channel as well, if purely to reduce any strain on the amp.
I have $30 6x9's, $20 6.5's, and stock 4's, and am happy with the output and quality I'm getting out of them. And no I'm not tone-deaf or clueless. The audiophiles out there just seem to think that if it's under $5K's worth, it'll sound like ****. If I wanted that kind of sound quality whilst driving, I'd get a helmet with noise-cancelling 7.1!
Mr İharisma
28-01-2008, 10:37 AM
I'm not expecting much. I just figure that as I have a 2channel amp, rather than leaving one channel unused I may as well see if I can tie in the 2nd channel as well, if purely to reduce any strain on the amp.
I have $30 6x9's, $20 6.5's, and stock 4's, and am happy with the output and quality I'm getting out of them. And no I'm not tone-deaf or clueless. The audiophiles out there just seem to think that if it's under $5K's worth, it'll sound like ****. If I wanted that kind of sound quality whilst driving, I'd get a helmet with noise-cancelling 7.1!
Ok. I don't think that is correct. Depending on the set up, a system might have a downfall. It is not the component cost that will have the ultimate say in quality. You can make a great set of components sound crap if not mounted incorrectly.
My gear component wise has only cost about $2300. Now the extra's have cost the same if not more ( wiring / battery / Sd / Custom Sub box / Tuning ). You take a short cut and you will notice.
RoGuE_StreaK
03-02-2008, 07:19 AM
Well, I've got it hooked up and sitting in the cargo area (aka "boot"), seems to do the job. Just running the one channel, but is more than adequate for what I wanted.
Total cost, about $45, including amp and wiring.
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