Hwdy all i have seen a few people with manual gear knobs on the auto stick can anyone out there tell me how this is done cheers

The only way it's possible is by forcing the plastic selector inside to be permanently down (so you can move the stick freely between modes). It's not as dodgy as it sounds, the shaft is still quite firm when you pull on it.

Not quite Leigh... I had one on my auto, and just pushed the entire knob down between each selection. The plastic sleeve inside was tight enough to keep the knob on, but loose enough to slide up and down easily between selections.

the shaft is still quite firm when you pull on it.

Ill have to take your word on that....... :bowrofl:

Is that safe,cause on my hq i had to put a B&M shifter on it as it kept slipping through gears

I have seen auto knobs that look like manual ones, you just press the top of it down.

I think autobarn had em. :D

the shaft is still quite firm when you pull on it.

Ill have to take your word on that....... :bowrofl:
Can doddski verify? :P (hopefully no offense intended)

Not quite Leigh... I had one on my auto, and just pushed the entire knob down between each selection. The plastic sleeve inside was tight enough to keep the knob on, but loose enough to slide up and down easily between selections.
That'd be awesome then, i'm only going off the 380 shifter which has put me in a similar position.

Just make sure the knob is on the shaft tight enough so that when you pull on the shaft you don't pull the knob straight off......





....dirty bastards :P.

its easy just buy a manual gear boot and then buy a manual gear knob and then when you put it on make sure you push the the small plastic button down so it stays down and this is the result

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8733/image015xt0.jpg

its easy just buy a manual gear boot and then buy a manual gear knob and then when you put it on make sure you push the the small plastic button down so it stays down and this is the result

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8733/image015xt0.jpg


dood buy a gear boot:bowrofl: i make them for a living
looks tight though ,gonna have ta try it

Isn't having the button permanently depressed illegal? The function of the lockout feature being to stop people from shifting into reverse while in drive, but I'd assume the TCU takes care of that electronically too... Hmmmmmmm

Looks pimp though, I want one.... :D

Can doddski verify? :P (hopefully no offense intended)

ROFL!

i cannot speak either way on this one - i signed stuff to say it didnt know...
oh... opps...
my bad! lol


but yes, but to topic now - it is illegal to remove the buttons function, as you can accidentaly knock the car into N or R / P etc when travelling, and cause a large accident etc.

but yes, but to topic now - it is illegal to remove the buttons function, as you can accidentaly knock the car into N or R / P etc when travelling, and cause a large accident etc.
Well in a Magna/Verada auto you can shift from drive to neutral without the button anyway...not likely to cause an accident, but theres no way known I'd modify my shifter to potentially travel into reverse or park by mistake, nevermind an accident, what about the transmission!

Would love to do something like this though, BMW and Merc autos tend to be like this nowadays, looks classy :cool:

but yes, but to topic now - it is illegal to remove the buttons function, as you can accidentaly knock the car into N or R / P etc when travelling, and cause a large accident etc.

Strange, I have a manual nob on my auto that ive pushed right down and moves from L to P freely.

When i was taken over the pits and defected he looked at it but never said anything about it.

well i have never seet till i joined here,i have changed an ea ford shifter to a vt commadore one but thats about it

Well in a Magna/Verada auto you can shift from drive to neutral without the button anyway...not likely to cause an accident, but theres no way known I'd modify my shifter to potentially travel into reverse or park by mistake, nevermind an accident, what about the transmission!

Would love to do something like this though, BMW and Merc autos tend to be like this nowadays, looks classy :cool:


yeah my KL does this as well
sit in drive and just push against the selector slightly and itl move to N
wont move up again to R without pushing the button
and wont move IN or OUT of park without the button.

my selector plate has a sorta arrow pointing forward on the D outline, N is just a square, and R has a little arrow pointing down to N as well.

can move from R -> N -> D without needing the button, and D -> N without it as well.

i think the legal side of things is the PARK part of the gate.
must have to use the button to get IN AND OUT of park.

im sure iv read it somewhere important saying that... just gotta find it...

I got one from ebay.
The bottom screws off so you can attach it,
It is spring loaded you just push down on the whole knob to change gears.

My stepdads Crewman (Commodore with the boot chopped off and a ute bolted on) is an auto (no tiptronic shifter) and you can move between 2-3-D without pressing the button, but oddly enough not L.

My stepdads Crewman (Commodore with the boot chopped off and a ute bolted on) is an auto (no tiptronic shifter) and you can move between 2-3-D without pressing the button, but oddly enough not L.


thats coz low / first has the button lockout - i beleive the button operates a "detent pawl" i think thats the name for what the button operates? someone correct me on that one please)
(like the P lockout etc)

stops you knocking the car into 1st / low by mistake - so you have to physically push the button to get it to select 1st - but in the days of computer controlled trannys, it probably wont pick 1st gear up until your road speed drops below about 60KM/hr.


this is part of the buttons feature - to stop you accidently knocking the transmission into a lower / wrong / no / park gear etc.
so you have to make an active effort to get it to do something that might not be good for the car / safe etc.

even my old ZK Fairlane with a hydraulicly controleld transmission had the button needed to be pushed in before you could pull 1st / Low - and even then it wouldnt engage till fluid pressure on the governor reduced at an approx speed of 60km/hr.
(also the ZKs selector would move from R to D without the button pushed, and D -> N, but needed button to get into R from N.)

stops you knocking the car into 1st / low by mistake - so you have to physically push the button to get it to select 1st - but in the days of computer controlled trannys, it probably wont pick 1st gear up until your road speed drops below about 60KM/hr.


I know my KH won't drop back to first at speed even if you drop it back to L.

I have found my shifter slides from D to N really easily, had it happen once or twice when using the shifter for holding gears.

I know my KH won't drop back to first at speed even if you drop it back to L.

I have found my shifter slides from D to N really easily, had it happen once or twice when using the shifter for holding gears.

it wont drop back, coz the TCU wont let it pick the lower (1st) gear up because road speed is too high.
its a transmission saver sorta thing

my KL - the shifter will let me lightly 'push' from Drive into Neutral with a light push.
iv never accidentally picked up N when holding / changing gears... but i have tippy so that prolly explains that.

i find the lightly pushing into Neutral while sitting waiting at long traffic lights to be more convenient than if i had to push the button to get it to move to N. i would just leave it in D all the time if that was the case.

VZ calais that i got to drive a lot last year, would let you push lightly on the shifter when in D to get it to pick Neutral up - but wouldnt let you just push it into R - button needed for that.
also wouldnt let you pick up L wihtout the button, but the way around that was to slip into A/S mode (with power of course) and use the paddle shifter to pick the exact gear you wanted / needed.