Im after a new muffler for my 98 TF 3 litre. Im after something thats not too loud but still flows well. Ive done a search and so far either the lukey LR2779 or its bolt on alternative, the AL4-5597, seem like the go.

Just wondering what type of sound these mufflers produce, Ive read that the bolt-on is a bit louder as it is smaller then the LR. Does anyone have a sound clip or link to a sound clip for either of these mufflers? What do people with these mufflers installed think of the sound? beefy or ricey?

check these out:

http://www.lukey.com.au/default.asp?pageid=GROWLSOUND&template=GROWLSOUND&catid=37

lukey's are relatively quieter compared to other options available e.g. redback, xforce and magnaflow... i just hada bolt on al4-5597 installed on sat and to be honest i am still getting used to the roar !!

u hear a drone between idle and 2500rpm... after that it just roars. imo it doesnt sound ricey...

i've had the LR2779 fitted for a bit over a year now (i think) and it is no where near ricey... half, no most, of the people in my car don't even realise i've changed the muffler!!

In mine i get no drone! and it is never invasive at cruising speeds (the tire roar is heaps worse) but under acceleration and back off you get a nice note and burble!

There's no drone at ALL with my Lukey...People think it's the stock muffler till I hit about 3k rpm and then it roars. And even then you know it's not a muffler made for noise...it was made with performance in mind. If you want the performance without the alarm tripping noise then that's the way to go :D

Thanks for the help guys, it sounds like your all pretty happy with the Lukey LR2779, I think it will be the go, exactly what Im after.

Cheers.

Mine is the bolt-on Lukey. It does have a slight low drone during normal driving but certainly not loud. Even under full throttle it is not very loud and maintains a low "growl". No high pitched annoying stuff. Also the bolt-on is an easy install, but costs a bit more, mine was $250 installed.

i forgot to mention 1 thing...

the weld on lr2779 may no longer be available... i was ringing up carline dealers in syd and some said u cant get that anymore coz they stopped making them.... i actually wished i the weld on instead

but that may b different for u guys up there

good luck hunting... ;)

I don't know why they told you they stopped making them because Im getting an LR2779 fitted tomorrow morning, $220, $150 for muffler itself, with no ricey tip, naturally ;) .

Im getting it fitted at Bob Parkes muffler city up here in townsville, they even have a LR2779 on display in their show room and keep them in stock, dam their huge though.

Mine is the bolt-on Lukey. It does have a slight low drone during normal driving but certainly not loud. Even under full throttle it is not very loud and maintains a low "growl". No high pitched annoying stuff. Also the bolt-on is an easy install, but costs a bit more, mine was $250 installed.

Actually that makes sense..I just remembered the bolt on is a bit shorter in length..so it might drone a little. The drone isnt bad though is it?

Oh my bad..I just realised you said it wasnt lol :p

[quote="KillbillyActually that makes sense..I just remembered the bolt on is a bit shorter in length..so it might drone a little. The drone isnt bad though is it?[/quote]

Yeah, mine drones but not much. It's only really noticeable when the windows are up. Does the weld on look like the one for the Sports / VR-X?

[quote="KillbillyActually that makes sense..I just remembered the bolt on is a bit shorter in length..so it might drone a little. The drone isnt bad though is it?

Yeah, mine drones but not much. It's only really noticeable when the windows are up. Does the weld on look like the one for the Sports / VR-X?[/quote]

I havent seen one up close, but from what I have seen they're very similar...I think the LR2779 is a bit longer, I can actually see the muffler in my rear wheel arch, it's HUGE lol

Okay, can some people post a picture of what their muffler looks like?

I'm after a Sports, VR-X, Bolt on and Weld on. I'm after a view showing the muffler sitting under the car from a view near the ground looking up at it.

Got my Lukey LR2779 fitted :D . Bugger me its quiet, I was expecting a bit more of a drone but Im happily surprised, big, loud and obvious exhausts just don't add to the sleeper effect :lol:.

Anyway, Im happy with what I got, and recomend it to any one wanting a suttle high flowing muffler. ;)

i will try to post the pic to night

Sports muffler is a big one its like 2 feet long or some thing and its huge may be thats why its not really loud

Got my Lukey LR2779 fitted :D . Bugger me its quiet, I was expecting a bit more of a drone but Im happily surprised, big, loud and obvious exhausts just don't add to the sleeper effect :lol:.

Anyway, Im happy with what I got, and recomend it to any one wanting a suttle high flowing muffler. ;)

Excellent. How does it sound at full raw? Did you just swap the muffler or go for a cat back?


i will try to post the pic to night

Sports muffler is a big one its like 2 feet long or some thing and its huge may be thats why its not really loud

Ta. Yeah, I've seen one that's way longer than mine. My bolt on is about two thirds the size and the outet pipe goes horizontal, slopes down then straightes out to horizontal to fit under the bumper. Does the weld on sit low enough to have the outlet going straight out like what a VR-X does?

At full roar its still not really that loud, loud enough to tell its not a stock muffler though. Although I'd like to know if its just the size that makes it so quiet. Any one know how the inside of the LR2779 is designed? Every one says they flow well, so my guess is just real big, straight through with an offset, is this right?

Mine has a slight offset. I think yours is a true straight through. The length is probably the right length for drone and size helps with noise. I'd imagine the shorter one might flow better but stuff all in it. Would be interesting to have dynoed but a dyno if it was acurate enough.

ok so the LR 2779 is a bigger, different muffler than the one fitted stock to Sports and VRX-which does drone? I was going to go for a 5 Zigen thats ment to be whisper quiet, but would prefer to keep stock-sleeper look if the LR 2779 is just as good and looks stock from rear, also cheaper.

Looks similar to stock muffler, same size. Mine was like a bright kinda grey colour when I got it put on, so you could tell it wasn't stock as the stock mufflers are black. Although a can of flat black engine enamel and 30 minutes fixed that problem. Only difference now is it only has the one tip instead of two, but you'd have to know what your looking for to pick it, especially when you can't hear any muffler noise.

The main reason I bought mine was for the sleeper look without sacrificing flow, and Im happy with the what I got :D .

I got my lukey put on today. Best thing Ive bought sofar :)
The place I got it done painted the underside for me black. so it all looks smick. Sounds great too. Fits in well on the VRX kit. 8)

I got my lukey put on today. Best thing Ive bought sofar :)
The place I got it done painted the underside for me black. so it all looks smick. Sounds great too. Fits in well on the VRX kit. 8)

Isn't the std vrx muffler a lukey? same as this one?

[quote:10e28be582="JiGgS"]I got my lukey put on today. Best thing Ive bought sofar :)
The place I got it done painted the underside for me black. so it all looks smick. Sounds great too. Fits in well on the VRX kit. 8)

Isn't the std vrx muffler a lukey? same as this one?[/quote:10e28be582]

No. The standard vrx/vr/sports has a lukey but not the aftermarket lr2779
unit. The standard vrx/vr/sports lukey has a very nasty drone at 2000rpm.

all makes sense now, a shop assured me that the lukey was very quiet but said it was the same one fitted to the Sports/VRX, whic I know to have the nasty drone u mention vlad, so i ended up didnt get it. now I know the 2779 is not that same muffler i will get one as well, as Im also going for the sleeper look and like it subdued. ;)

You just can't beat the sleeper look :D . I just can't wait to get some more performance mods for my hub cap TF and burn a few commies at the lights :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: . Speaking of performance mods has anyone ever taken a before and after dyno reading of when getting either pacemaker or RPW extractors fitted? I want to know if they're worth the money :? .

If you install a Lukey, do u have to cut any of the rear bumper off?

If you install a Lukey, do u have to cut any of the rear bumper off?

Not at all. Unless you want a straight tip that goes through the bumper kinda thing, in the case with the LR2779 it just sits in the same place as the stock muffler with a droopy or dumper tip, which ever you prefer to call it.

If anyone's interested I'll be getting pics that I took of my LR2779 emailed to me in the next day or two. I can post them if anyone wants to see just what a LR2779 looks like underneath the car.

[quote:1697902ac8]Speaking of performance mods has anyone ever taken a before and after dyno reading of when getting either pacemaker or RPW extractors fitted? I want to know if they're worth the money[/quote:1697902ac8]

believe me, this is in the process. should have results in 3-4 weeks :)

Trav

[quote:a119cb5010]Speaking of performance mods has anyone ever taken a before and after dyno reading of when getting either pacemaker or RPW extractors fitted? I want to know if they're worth the money

believe me, this is in the process. should have results in 3-4 weeks :)

Trav[/quote:a119cb5010]

Sounds good, Im very curious just to see what kind of gains you get from a set of extractors. Can't wait to see the results. Are you getting RPW or Pacemaker?

both :)

Serious? Even better, are you getting the RPW race extractors, the more expensive ones?

just curious what's the inlet diameter for lukey bolt on? are they bolt on straight away on TR?

believe me, this is in the process. should have results in 3-4 weeks :)

Awww... you said that 3-4 weeks ago. :?

Maybe Pacemaker for the fronts and RPW for the rears :lol:

How long before RPW's go on? RPW only making the race ones now. I guess there might be a set or two of the street spec remaining. You'd have to ask Dave. Manual had some on for a short period.

Im bored and got a pic of my stock looking muffler so here it is. Sports muffler? What sports muffler? :roll: [/img]

here's a lukey on my TH with a straight tip. fitted beautifuly

any issues with heat, having straight pipe so close to the rear bar?
Also interested phil from your signature, the DBA slotted rotors and 225/60 G111's on stock 15x6 rims ?
do the rotors give any better initial bite or just better fade resistance?
how much improvement from the tyres ride/handling? I know the 215/60/16 G Grid on AWD sports are brilliant.

I know the 215/60/16 G Grid on AWD sports are brilliant.

might have somthing to do with the AWD gear :D

Altera 98, the muffler has been on over a year and so far no signs of heat damage. Sounds great, quite but knows how to growl.

Brake fade is a thing of the past, that was the most noticeable thing for me as I travel thru country backroads to work so a lot of braking from 100+. As for general braking, it is more positive and the brake pedal actually does something.
If you want real performance go the AWD brakes MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

The G111 are brilliant, best tyres I've had in 25 yrs, the profile gives a great ride not hard but firm thru corners sticks very very well, combined with the rear sway bar i feel gives you a great ride with out going all out. And the difference in the wet, is it raining? didn't notice.

As for the difference on an AWD I'd agree they'd be F**N unbelievable, yes AWD has a lot to do with it but remember it means nothing till it gets thru 4 bits of rubber to the ground, Tyres are the last link.

Anyone else getting a slight rattle kinda sound? It's not hugely noticable but it's still there, almost like theres a baffle in the muffler or something. It's still pretty new and it could just be "breaking in" still but it sounds a little weird hey. Think I should take it back to the exhaust place to have a look at it?

Anyone else getting a slight rattle kinda sound? It's not hugely noticable but it's still there, almost like theres a baffle in the muffler or something. It's still pretty new and it could just be "breaking in" still but it sounds a little weird hey. Think I should take it back to the exhaust place to have a look at it?

kinda rattle sound? Is it a really really quick kinda rattle that you only get when you rev the engine fairly high? Did you get just the LR2779 fitted with stock piping?

Sounds a bit suss, although when I first had my Lukey fitted, while in park and reving the engine, higher up in the revs it made a kinda rattling sound, you could call it, it was a very quick and kinda high pitched sound, not very noticeable though. Is your rattle real noticeable, and what revs does it do it at?

As im building a sleeper, Lukey LR2779 obviously best choice as its still quiet-and looks stock,
DBA dscs what i'll go for sure bec sounds like they overall fix what is a weak link on the 3rd gen magna-budget brakes, without a huge upgrade requiring bigger wheels and losing ABS. I live in hills and took no time to glaze the stock brake pads wheras old TR wagon never had a problem.
agree AWD does help the handling but at the limit can be let down by tyres. I had a subaru forrester with 215/60/16 B/stone semi-4wd tyres, it handled well but pushed hard u felt the tyres squirm. when I took an AWD sports for trade in test, the difference of grip with 215/60/16 G grid just amazing, and no harshness in ride.

whiteline rear bar works a treat, but add whiteline front strut brace for about another 200$ and it does just as much for the front. stable instead of floating at 100 plus :?: :D

Just from standstill , or low rev cruising .till about 3k when I go anything past half throttle. Not really noticable but yeh high pitched almost tinny kinda sound . Can't hear it inside with the windows up. But outside you can hear it, it comes and goes really quickly. I dont notice any performance loss or anything, it just shits me. The stock pipes are getting very tired/rusted looking (one crack has already been welded) and I'm looking to get new 2.5" piping and res. If it's still there after another month or so I'll get a little more worried. Just wondering if anyone else had the same thing before, cheers.

Have you got a resinator in there at the moment Serendae? Because if you don't I'd recomend getting one, if its the sound Im thinking of then a resinator should quieten it down a bit.

Unless one is run somewhere on the stock system then nope. Just a straight muffler swap.
Ill see what it sounds like after the new piping and res goes in.
Cheers for the help

what do u guys think about fitting on a HSK super dragger muffler? i think its a 2.5" in. there's one going cheap 2nd hand near i live, so i'm giong to check it out. also, somebody said something about removing the intake resenators, but i heard that they're there so u get smoother acceleration or something. also, what is the order of the parts in the exhaust system from the cat? cat, muff1,resenators etc. whats the hotdog thing? what if i replaced cat back without resenators? louder? i reckon low rumble when idling would be nice

what do u guys think about fitting on a HSK super dragger muffler? i think its a 2.5" in. there's one going cheap 2nd hand near i live, so i'm giong to check it out. also, somebody said something about removing the intake resenators, but i heard that they're there so u get smoother acceleration or something. also, what is the order of the parts in the exhaust system from the cat? cat, muff1,resenators etc. whats the hotdog thing? what if i replaced cat back without resenators? louder? i reckon low rumble when idling would be nice

Aren't those zorts made for 200sx and similar sized cars? I'm not sure about this but I dont think it will fit on the system properly as its not really a "universal muffler" and the actual muffler might stick out from the car without altering the piping and other parts? Anyone out there fitted one to a magna or similar before?