hey guys,

I am sick of being pulled over and warned all the tme, yes i kno i have been very lucky... anyways speaking to a copper last night and he was giving me a few tips to get the car legal again. ok so far i kno i have to get some permits for my tyres, then for my back lights either get red reflectors for them or tint my old ones and increase the wattage as well as keeping the reflectors visible. remove the blue bulbs above the number plate (this doesnt bother me as it is a bulb), and try and get a permit for my suspension, although i think the front suspension might be to stiff. most engine mods he said are ok, except the pod needs to be supported and not just "floating". once i get the cams installed he rekons to also get my exhaust tested and keep the db reading in the car, any ideas where to get it tested? any help will be appreciated...

thanks mike

All pretty easy to fix, get stock tail lights and tint the slightly, it will look better anyway. Remove globes. AFAIK there's no limit on how stiff your suspension can be, and your car doesn't look too low, especially w/o a kit. I think most pink slip places should have dB meter. Pod has to be secured and enclosed, again not too hard to fix.

most exhaust places have a dB Reader, or mechanics that do blue slips should have 1

definately get the stock tail lights and give them a tiny, will look a thousand times better and wont get you noticed half as much

I think in regards to the taillights and the reflector you just have to have reflectors on the back of the car they don't have to be on the lights,correct me if i'm wrong.

So get two reflectors an stick them on the bumper.

I think there is a limit to how stiff your suspension is allowed to be up here in Queensland - I'm not on my computer though so I don't have the pdf handy. I'm not sure if the same applies where you are, but I doubt it's something that can be tested on the side of the road. Plus your car has Pedders suspension - it'd be orientated for a road car so it's not going to be stupidly stiff. As long as it's above legal minimum (which it appears to be) I wouldn't worry about it at all.

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most engine mods he said are ok, except the pod needs to be supported and not just "floating". once i get the cams installed he rekons to also get my exhaust tested and keep the db reading in the car

In NSW you need to get an engineers cert to keep them off your back.. cop must be on drugs as any mods need to get a cert(permit). In nsw to engineer cams and/or ECU u need to visit RTA for an emissions test. thats the only thing that not Engineered on my car as RTA will take it of fthe road. stand behind it for 5 secs and you get high.:P got no hope of passing emissions test..:P

The only tail light mods is if you do a convert to TJ bootlid which I have, at least they give some decent tail light options. To be hones even the stock TL tail lights looks slick ass on a black car.

those doggy TE-TH clear tail lights have been disapproved for a long time, to me is near worthless even in WA!

Red... the rule in QLD is that u can't modify the bumpstops and can't reduce or increase suspension travel more than 1/3, ie. if u have 6" of travel, after suspension mods u need to still have 4". like you said, not something that can be tested on the road.

That's what I was after. Cheers.

you have to take you hat off to cops like that (even just wear one for the occaision) That he took the time to explain why things were how they were and not just tar you with the same brush, and just write defect over everything and let you find out how and why.

All the things though sound like an easy fix, no dramas, but the cop must have been having a good year, its rare they dont frown upon any enigne modification. I hope you thanked him for his input.

Good luck

hey guys,

regarding the tail lights how hard is it to remove the normal red reflectors from the standard tail lights and put them on my clear ones, i kno some dont like them, but i do...

ok so i understand i can get my permit for my tyres, rear lights, suspension, and exhaust all at the RDA or what ever its called.

Yeh what happened was i got pulled over on grt northern highway, they took everything out of my car put it on the side of the road, checked everything, was telling me what was wrong with the car, the other cop car that was there had another vehicle in front and was charging the guy with dangerous driving and yellow stickering his car, the guy got angry and they called for the other officers to help out, end result was i got away with it, annoyed for how much tme it took, but greatful. then i went to my mates place, there happened to be a cop there and i got him to explain everything to me, which was very nice of him, and he told me most things and how to legalize them.

thanks for your help mike

edit: was there anything else i should get a permit for????

hey mate
take alook at this site:
http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/yourvehicle/1412.asp
should have what your looking for about what needs approval and whatnot

hey guys,

regarding the tail lights how hard is it to remove the normal red reflectors from the standard tail lights and put them on my clear ones, i kno some dont like them, but i do...



an idea for you go and see a sticker/sign maker who make the vinal refective stickers like on security/police/fire truck and ambulances and see if you can get a couple of peices of reflective vinal stickers and stick that to your clear lights where the refector sits and the cops have nothing to complain about as thats things light up heaps as you would notice on the road!!!

just another option and cheap.

an idea for you go and see a sticker/sign maker who make the vinal refective stickers like on security/police/fire truck and ambulances and see if you can get a couple of peices of reflective vinal stickers and stick that to your clear lights where the refector sits and the cops have nothing to complain about as thats things light up heaps as you would notice on the road!!!

just another option and cheap.


its just a 3M product. reflective tape or something. you could maybe get some from one of those workwear/safety type places too.
the only thing is it would look a bit dodgy.
you are better off sticking with stock lights.

well the car went in today and failed as the suspension was too low. man it was a horrible noise scrapping along the rails. anyways the car has been lifted :cry: and the tires were ok, although the rear left was bald on the inside, so all four needed replacing in 2000 kays so im getting the whole lot done on friday. monday is pits again, o hopefully ill get the permits this time. whilst i was there asked him about engine mods, and he said you need a permit for any mods you do to the engine including intake filters, anyways once i fill out the forms, and hand them back, how long does it take to get approval? the other thing is i have already done some engine mods, will they chekc the engine before it is approved or do they just check it once the parts are installed? please get back to me asap, thanks once again

mike

what he doesnt know wont hurt him and hes not going to pull your engine apart to find out... just keep it on the low down.

how low was your car?

Not being a smartass about cops, but, alot of the time they themselves dont know what they are talking about, and have no idea about half of the actual laws relating in moding a car.

Best way to keep them off your back, is to get an engineers cert for pretty much everything you do :)

the car had sports ryder stage 2 suspension, which made the body at the front just over 100mm but the engine, exhaust and what eva else is under the car was about 90mm of the ground, looked awsome, now it looks like a 4wd again :cry: . anyways i think it is crap how they test it, because they make u drive up on "rails" basically which sit 100mm of the ground and my god it was a bad sound when i drove over it. so yes a very hard way of learning a lesson.

mike

Not being a smartass about cops, but, alot of the time they themselves dont know what they are talking about, and have no idea about half of the actual laws relating in moding a car.

Best way to keep them off your back, is to get an engineers cert for pretty much everything you do :)

Thats spot on.. The last defect i got the cops thought mine was turbo charged when they saw the intake. they then asked me to start it and when asked me again i replied it isnt turbo chargered they told me it is a criminal offence to lie to police.. I spend 10 mins trying to convince them it wasnt.. they wanted to know why it sounded so agressive and the engine was trying to jump out of the engine bay.. i told them i canged the cams and they shut up..

The wrote unengineered cams on defect..:)

how did you get the defect of? did you just have to go to the pits and get a permit or did you have to get an engineering cert, if so did you have to remove everything?

sorry for the stupid questions

mike

how did you get the defect of? did you just have to go to the pits and get a permit or did you have to get an engineering cert, if so did you have to remove everything?

sorry for the stupid questions

mike
to get a defect cleared usually the pits or an rta approved defect clearance center, its a shame that your in wa cos i know a bloke in wyong that does full certs for 300-380 bucks.

so basically if i get more engine mods or get yellow stickered for the ones i got, all i have to do is go to the pits and get it cleared eg: emissions test???????? wouldnt this be the cheaper way of doing it as getting an engineering cert can cost like 400 dollars.

mike

so basically if i get more engine mods or get yellow stickered for the ones i got, all i have to do is go to the pits and get it cleared eg: emissions test???????? wouldnt this be the cheaper way of doing it as getting an engineering cert can cost like 400 dollars.

mike

personally id just get an engineering cert then you know you are covered.

what did you get yellow stickered for?
did you just get it recently?

yeh last week, i was told i have 10 days to get a permit for my lowered springs and mags. I went on tuesday and they told me my mags and tyres were ok, although rears needed replacing, which is being done on friday, and the suspension was way to low. i dont kno if anyone has been to midland pits, but you have to drive up on some rails which are 100mm high, man it was ugly, alot of scraping and i could feel the car jumping around a bit. anyways put the old springs bak on :cry: whilst i was there asked about engine mods, they didnt look what i had, but they told me you need a engineering cert for anything you do to the engine, which only can be done at welshpool or something and will cost 400+. they also sed you have to get it before you do the modifications, that is why i am asking if it is possible to get the certs with the mods already installed.

mike

ok for anyone thats interested. i got my permits for my suspension, even with such height on the car its only 105mm of the ground :(. i also got a permit for my extractors whilst i was there, which i was happy about :). although whilst there the tyres failed because the rolling diametre was out by 4mm and the rpm was 20 higher than normal. this is **** in my opinion, and he goes your speedo will be out and your brakes will also be effected. ok yes my speedo will be out by 2-4km an hour, although my brakes i thought would of been better, because of the bigger tyres = more tread, i dunno. anyways that is my story.

mike

because of the bigger tyres = more tread


this is true, but if you increase the rolling diameter of a wheel, you are increasing the leveridge that is applied to the brakes. Imagine one of the spokes on your wheel as a lever, the longer the lever, the easier the work is. Therefore you need to apply more force at the centre of the wheel to stop the rotation.

haha.. the guys at the pits used to say "what'd you get yellowed for now?" they'd look over the car for a total of 5 mins, take the yellow off and say seeya

well they looked at the FPR, tapped it with there finger, wipped it with there finger, then said you want a permit for your extractors as well? lol i dont think they new what it was

mike

to get a defect cleared usually the pits or an rta approved defect clearance center, its a shame that your in wa cos i know a bloke in wyong that does full certs for 300-380 bucks.


is that per mod or for the whole vehicle? might have to hook me up soonish cause the only ones i know that do engineering are in cardiff and thereabouts and r tough as.