Can anyone tell me if the light behind the climate control TJ MY02 is a globe or an LED?
It seems to be getting dimmer, can anyone else who has a TJ with climate tell me if the climate display is the same brightness as the trip computer display above it?
Thanks

im pretty sure it shud be a globe

Its a globe, if it helps: http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57381

Might wanna try reseating the globe, or switching a couple around a seeing if you still have the same issue. Is it happening across the whole unit or just to the one globe?

Sorry for the late replies people computer hard drive issues all fixed now, It's the whole window which is dimmer, it is dimmer than the trip computer and at night with the lights switched on it is half as dim as the trip computer, I know there is a dimmer built in which activates when you turn on your lights while the trip computer dims slightly like it should the climate window is as I said so dim it looks silly, you can still see it but it looks crap.

Great write up Lugo, you're a champ, being LED globes maybe they gradually lose their intensity rather than just failing completely like a conventional globe, is your climate display window at night with your headlights on the same level of brightness as the trip computer? If not maybe they are just made that way.

Have you pulled it apart yet?

To make sure its not a simple globe issue, switch the two globes for the buttons with the two for the screen, if the screen is then brighter you know whats wrong, if not, your climate box might be faulty, or theres a wiring issue somewhere.

Cheers Lugo, I'll give that a go, I have not pulled it out or apart yet, but when I do I will consult your informative write up :)

I'm not sure if the screen in a TJ Advance is the same in a K/E,F,H but have you noticed with yours that the climate screen is dimmer at night (headlights on) than the trip computer screen? Probably a more suitable question for a TJ owner.

Of course, the climate unit is identical from model to model, during the day the screen should be at its full brightness, as is the trip comp (or in my case clock) screen, and the buttons should not be lighting up. At night, the trip comp and climate display dim, and the buttons illuminate.

Hopefully it'll be as simple as a faulty globe, does the screen light up evenly? I had this problem with mine, the right globe didn't work so the whole display appeared dimmer, and of course brighter on the left hand side. I just replaced the globe and hey presto, problem solved.

No it's dim all over, maybe both globes are on their way out, I'll replace them and see what happens. Thanks for the helpful advice.

No worries mate.

Are the buttons lighting up all the time or just the screen when the headlights/parkers are off? Might indicate a fault with the illumination wire connection. Just throwing out ideas.

The buttons light up as they should when the parkers or headlights are switched on, just the entire screen dims down too far when lights are switched on, when lights are off it is OK although seems slightly dimmer than the trip comp display above it.

Its doing what its supposed to do.

The climate control box has a dimmer wire attached to it much like a headunit does, and if you disconnect that the screen won't dim when the lights are on, but the buttons will not illuminate either. You'll have to decide whats more important, the screen being bright during the day because your parkers are on, or the use of the unit at night.

Why doesn't the trip computer display go dim with the lights turned on?
I know they are supposed to dim slightly with lights or parkers on but dim by 80% and only the climate display? WTF

I have brochures of both the TJ Magna and KJ Verada, there are pictures of the cars with the dash lights on and in both pictures the trip computer display and the climate display are the same intensity, I realise brochures can be touched up but mine does not look normal, I might pull it out and see if all the globes are working.

TRY THIS SIMPLE TEST!
Turn on your parker lights, now look at the climate display window and the trip computer display window above it, hold a pair of sunglasses over the trip computer display, now are the trip comp and climate display the same brightness? If yes your car is the same as mine.

Now move the sunglasses away from the trip computer, is the trip computer window a lot brighter than the climate display window? If yes your car is the same as mine.

Now turn lights off completely, are both trip and climate windows the same or similar intensity? If yes, your car is the same as mine and it's probably normal, but if not then there is something wrong with mine.

Are you trying to say only your climate control screen is dimming when you turn the lights on? I thought that was cleared up a while ago. lol

The trip comp should dim just as much as the climate control screen does. They're not designed to be used dimmed during the day, hence being on the headlights. If ones dimming and the other isn't, then theres a wire problem somewhere and only you will be able to find that, as its an exclusive issue with your car, not a model range fault.

The simple solution is don't use your headlights in broad daylight, you don't need them anyway.

Are you trying to say only your climate control screen is dimming when you turn the lights on? I thought that was cleared up a while ago. lol

The trip comp should dim just as much as the climate control screen does. They're not designed to be used dimmed during the day, hence being on the headlights. If ones dimming and the other isn't, then theres a wire problem somewhere and only you will be able to find that, as its an exclusive issue with your car, not a model range fault.

The simple solution is don't use your headlights in broad daylight, you don't need them anyway.

you should use your headlights during the day, espically if you are doing longer trips etc, allows you to be seen and noticed more with oncoming traffic, more of a safety thing then anything.

you should use your headlights during the day, espically if you are doing longer trips etc, allows you to be seen and noticed more with oncoming traffic, more of a safety thing then anything.
Don't know about you, but I can't remember the last time I failed to see a car in broad daylight on a clear day because they didn't have their lights on. If for safety we should have them on all the time, they wouldn't have the screens dimming would they making them a pain to use during the day. I agree its safer to an extent, but its unnecessary, next up well be painting cars in reflective "high visibility" paint...

That said, I've usually got the foggies on if its overcast or raining, when visibility is limited, but then its not bright in the car either, so theres no issue with seeing the climate screen or trip comp.

Then there must be a wiring fault, thanks guys I'll look into it, I just wanted to establish that what's going on in my car is not normal.

As far the headlight thing goes, it is common to see people driving at dawn or dusk with no lights on at all, this is very dangerous because they tend to blend in with the surroundings, especially bitumen grey coloured cars like mine (Pewter) Also in heavy rain in the middle of the day you still need lights on, if not headlights at least parking lights. I always have my headlights on when doing country trips, if it saves just one 100 kph head on collision it's worth it.
I'd rather a difficult to read climate display than a crash, the older Volvos used to have the parking lights hard wired to the ignition, but they don't anymore, I think all cars should have parkers on with the ignition, even if replacing globes is a pain in the ****. We can't make people smarter but we can make smarter cars.

Thanks for your responses people, I think I need to become aquainted with an auto electrician.

Hey LUGO I pulled it out and apart, TOP WRITE UP YOUR DIY GUIDE, it made the job quick and easy. The two globes both have black on the inside of the glass, it is more than likely that these particular 2 globes are the ones which are responsible for the problem, I am putting it back in tomorrow and will replace these 2 globes first, the fact that both globes are blackened (blown) explains why my screen was not unevenly lit.

Thanks Lugo, you're a champ.

Sounds like both the globes are blown, which means the only light your getting to the screen is from those 2 globes channeling light to the buttons, which is pretty much jack all. Replace the globes and you may well find your problem solved lol

Only thing is, you'll need to go to Mitsu for the globes, I've tried heaps of places for them, no one stocks the standard ones, let alone LED replacements which is what I'm after. Price wise I'm not sure what they're likely to cost, I replaced my blown globe with one out of my spare climate unit (its handy having 2 of half the parts in your car lol).

I checked with Mitsubishi, the globes are about $23 each but should last a long time, spare climate control, haven't got a spare manual conversion kit and a DOHC VCT mitsi import V6 engine have you with low boost turbo ? :)

I checked with Mitsubishi, the globes are about $23 each but should last a long time
WHAT! :shock:

I paid $25 for the climate control unit I've got in the car, $23 each is a bloody rip off. The globes are apparently (Can't confirm that though, haven't checked yet) the same as those in the transmission lights in the cluster, just go to the wreckers and grab a couple out of a cluster there.

Mitsubishi sometimes is just stupid with pricing :nuts:

I've got a spare TJ cluster, I just had a look unfortunately the gear position globes are different, they have a larger base with a 25mm extension to reach the display panel, the trip computer lights are either the same as the small oil and water warning lights or the instrument light globes but with blue "condoms" on them hence the blue screen.

The 2 globes in the climate display window are the tiny flat backed ones which require a screwdriver and quarter turn to remove, they may be the same as the ones behind the ventilation dials in the VT and VX commodores and holden sell them as a set (6 globes I think) for $30, I'll check and see if they are the same.

No Mitsubishi dealer in Adelaide had any of these climate globes in stock and would need to be ordered from Sydney, far out, imagine if headlight or tail light globes were this hard to get.

I removed my 2 climate display globes altogether but when I put it all back in the car there was no climate display at all lights on or off, these are obviously LCD screen backlight globes which must be dual filament and the night time filament has blown but not the day time filament, talk about Hi Tech, but what for?

I'll look into the Commodore ventilation globe compatibility, if they fit I'll let everyone know.

Just tried it, I have a spare Vt Commodore ventilation control with globes, damn the holden VT/VX small globes are different, it seems like the mitsubishi climate globes are unique hence the price.

P.S. Thanks everyone for your input and comments, and a special thanks to Lugo for his advice and wonderful DIY Write up :D