Cheers benjames :)

Ripped out the old clarions and whacked in some Boston Z6's over the w/e - basically this is me atm :D
Only hooked up to the jaycar 4 x 100 (fronts and rears) atm and they still need to be "tuned" pretty badly.

They are taking a whopping though, I'm tossing up about buying another amp just for these, or possibly using the 4x100 to power the woofers and tweeters, but I'm not sure how i go about that. And then buying a 2x100 for the rears.

Ok, the install is BASIC I know, but i just wanted them IN and WORKING!
I'm using my old speaker pods, and yes that is red fluff i cbf'd peeling off the back of them but now its all gone lol

When time permits, some awesome full fibreglass lower door pods will be made to house these sexay speakers...one day...
Surprisingly, even though i made these pods a few years back, i pretty much guessed what angle to make em on...and they sound fantastic.
Sound from the rear is pointed directly to your head from behind you, and these don't point DIRECTLY to your ears, but sort of just in front...makes for awesome listening, almost like a surround sound effect in the car.

Heres a pic of them as they are now.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/Image006.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/Image005.jpg

I am leaving the tweeter where it is. it is protecting the speaker and they sound pretty decent there too.

Seem to be liked elsewhere too
http://www.epinions.com/content_113433611908

Thank you Lucifer for hacking up my door pods to make them fit :)

Look good bro, wish we had them working when I was down there so I could compare between their original car and yours :)

Top notch Pauline :D

Thank you Lucifer for hacking up my door pods to make them fit :)

Look good bro, wish we had them working when I was down there so I could compare between their original car and yours :)

Top notch Pauline :D

LoLoLoLoLoL yeah cheers man. lucky we didnt try to though taken me about 5 hours so far of running speaker cable and losing allen keys etc.

Yeah just gave em a quick going over with $3 paint - looks fine for now - they are only temp.
Listning to heavy metal though a few days ago resulted in a massive headache.

']LoLoLoLoLoL yeah cheers man. lucky we didnt try to though taken me about 5 hours so far of running speaker cable and losing allen keys etc.

Yeah just gave em a quick going over with $3 paint - looks fine for now - they are only temp.
Listning to heavy metal though a few days ago resulted in a massive headache.
It would take me 2.5 hours :rant: :D

Get your **** up here and I'll show you what a 3 way component setup can do to your eardrums :2cool:

boston Z6 = nice

Look great, better in person...sound good too :P

Good doesn't even begin to describe how they sound actually..

Lookin' good mate.

Good to see the leather on the doors & chrome door handles! Always wondered what they'd look like against the leather.

It would take me 2.5 hours :rant: :D

Get your **** up here and I'll show you what a 3 way component setup can do to your eardrums :2cool:

I know i know i would love to hear a proper 3 way setup - i can imagine the midrange would be very intense indeed.
Let me know when is a good time for me to come over and ill organize the rest :D
Puck - For some strange reason the leather inserts are actually a bit smaller then the standard ones, so i had to cover up the holes with little x-mas tree clips. And i lurve the chrome handles....

Any recommendations on some amps to use to power these?

Very nice dude!

Hmm what to power them with...

Do you want a 2ch or 4ch for active?
How much do you want to spend?

Very nice dude!

Hmm what to power them with...

Do you want a 2ch or 4ch for active?
How much do you want to spend?

Of course I'm broke with these alone, So as little as possible...
Say $300-$400ish???!?!
I'm open to recommendations on why a 2ch or 4ch is better or worse. i don't really care, Either is fine

Nice speakers u got there. Leather inserts look good, where did u get them from, are they from an Xi or have they been re-trimmed? Same for the door handles, assume they are 3rd gens?

Ollie

Same for the door handles, assume they are 3rd gens?

I think they're Diamante handles, if I recall correctly.

']Of course I'm broke with these alone, So as little as possible...
Say $300-$400ish???!?!
I'm open to recommendations on why a 2ch or 4ch is better or worse. i don't really care, Either is fine

2ch will have to have a lot of power, something like a DD C2a, 2x 200WRMS.

4ch will allow you to run your fronts active. Good thing here is you can let each speaker have exclusive tunabiliy. I'm 95% sure your xovers let you run bi wire, bi amp etc. Unfortunately for your budget there is not much that is going to do a good job. Audison, Audio System, Focal, Hertz etc all have some very decent 4ch, just none in the price range. You may for to settle for Alpine lol

2ch will have to have a lot of power, something like a DD C2a, 2x 200WRMS.

4ch will allow you to run your fronts active. Good thing here is you can let each speaker have exclusive tunabiliy. I'm 95% sure your xovers let you run bi wire, bi amp etc. Unfortunately for your budget there is not much that is going to do a good job. Audison, Audio System, Focal, Hertz etc all have some very decent 4ch, just none in the price range. You may for to settle for Alpine lol

I know...i know....What would be your opinion on running another jaycar 4 x 100 to power it?
As in, Would the benefits be worth the money for another amp + running wiring etc? I mean hey if not no worries, im just happy to have some speakers i know will last a long time.

Umm no idea i got the interior out of KB's car, possibly Xi? trim? Mal i think knows what model the leather came out in...

2ch will have to have a lot of power, something like a DD C2a, 2x 200WRMS.

4ch will allow you to run your fronts active. Good thing here is you can let each speaker have exclusive tunabiliy. I'm 95% sure your xovers let you run bi wire, bi amp etc. Unfortunately for your budget there is not much that is going to do a good job. Audison, Audio System, Focal, Hertz etc all have some very decent 4ch, just none in the price range. You may for to settle for Alpine lol
You are correct, these speakers (more precisely the crossover) allow the use of bi-amp or active staging, which is absolutely pimp :D

TUFFTR... Listen to your set, then double the auditory experience and put them in rather sexy door pods for listening pleasure, then you have Benjames' install giggity :D

']I know...i know....What would be your opinion on running another jaycar 4 x 100 to power it?
As in, Would the benefits be worth the money for another amp + running wiring etc? I mean hey if not no worries, im just happy to have some speakers i know will last a long time.

Umm no idea i got the interior out of KB's car, possibly Xi? trim? Mal i think knows what model the leather came out in...

For the moment I would hook the 4x 100WRMS actively and get it tuned. The tweeters are not gunna take the power but the woofers certainly will ( hence why they have gains!! ). I would then save up or wait till a second hand Focal 4.75 or Treo 75.4 came about. They are awesome SQ amps for the $$$.

"Science" gave me a good idea.
Thoughts? its a cheap way, still with a cheap amp but would defiantly spice things up on a budget

Use one jaycar 4x100, Bridge it, Use it to run Z6 Woofers
Another jaycar 4x100, use 2 channels for tweeters, use 2 channels to run 6x9's
?

Meh, Tuffy, i must say i've like your previous installs far better [disregarding SQ of speakers/performance] probably the ugliest front speakers i've ever seen and looks like everything would be in the way when driving...
none the less, i like your effort to keep changing things :P

Meh, Tuffy, i must say i've like your previous installs far better [disregarding SQ of speakers/performance] probably the ugliest front speakers i've ever seen and looks like everything would be in the way when driving...
none the less, i like your effort to keep changing things :P

Ahhh This was just a slap together job :P
Trust me its better having them working and ugly then sitting on the garage bench :P

Funny though cause the crossovers just clear the seat by about 5mm...

']"Science" gave me a good idea.
Thoughts? its a cheap way, still with a cheap amp but would defiantly spice things up on a budget

Use one jaycar 4x100, Bridge it, Use it to run Z6 Woofers
Another jaycar 4x100, use 2 channels for tweeters, use 2 channels to run 6x9's
?

Not a bad idea but you would be better to get the 2x 150WRMS for the woofers and have the 4x 100WRMS power the tweeters and the *gulp* 6x9's. Those Boston woofers will not handle much more than 200WRMS. Remember, doubling the power only reaps 3db. Bridging channels increase's distortion.. :redface: I am a nerd...:badgrin:

Not a bad idea but you would be better to get the 2x 150WRMS for the woofers and have the 4x 100WRMS power the tweeters and the *gulp* 6x9's. Those Boston woofers will not handle much more than 200WRMS. Remember, doubling the power only reaps 3db. Bridging channels increase's distortion.. :redface: I am a nerd...:badgrin:

Nope point taken! I'll have a look into it
Although i ashamed of your 6x9 bashing! They are very clear speakers despite there unusual shape...Also voted best 6x9' speaker for overall bang for buck. @ $130 you cant go wrong.
I am open to some more options too.
The 2x150 option again, if you say the actual gain will be minimal is it still worth it?

Meh, Tuffy, i must say i've like your previous installs far better [disregarding SQ of speakers/performance] probably the ugliest front speakers i've ever seen and looks like everything would be in the way when driving...
none the less, i like your effort to keep changing things :P
Don't you have soundstream gear? :P

Don't you have soundstream gear? :P

lol those speakers look awesome!!

Well its up to you dude, if you could find a second hand or ex-demo Audison SRx2s I would get that for your mids. I picked mine up for $425 ex-demo. The extra power will help you for head room, but I'm pretty sure ( ill look later ) that the 2x 150WRMS is slighty better spec'd than the 4x 100WRMS.

You will loose a fair bit of power through your xovers to...

According to the Jaycar website, if you bridge the 4 channel amp it'll put out 2x 380w RMS @ 4 Ohms. Wouldn't that blow the **** out of the Boston woofers? Or is that just Jaycar being very optimistic?

To save others efforts later:
4x100 Jaycar (http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AA0426&CATID=&keywords=response&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=)
2x150 Jaycar (http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=AA0424&CATID=&keywords=response&SPECIAL=&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=)

response amps are usually UNDER rated with power figures so i doubt they're being optimistic
that said i have always been told that it's better to overpower your speakers than to underpower them

HMM...Boston Z6's and you want to power them with a 200 dollar amp? :P I'm going to bite you. As for the bridging idea, I think you should trash it, for the same reasons as Mr Charisma said. Increased distortion and dampening factors and a bigger strain on your power supply.

I If you really need to amp your rear channels..then follow Mr Charisma's suggestion. So yeah, get another 2 channel for tweeters. More amps = better. Honestly though, for what you're after, I don't think running an active setup will be that beneficial for you. Might as well go for a 3-way setup and alpine imprint headunit or something :P

Z6's are nice anyway.

What do you have for low frequencies anyhows?

Will this car go any faster than stock once it's got the new engine in? All this weight!!! :bowrofl:

Will this car go any faster than stock once it's got the new engine in? All this weight!!! :bowrofl:
Man I reckon each one of those crossovers+speakers adds at least a second to the quarter mile time of that car, they make the doors heavy as!

/spam

How are they running atm if you can run a seperate channel to the tweeter and woofer? Is the crossover splitting the power from the 4x100w amp they're running off at the moment then?

Boston Z6's, yukk (no offense needed), one of the worst tweeters for a natural sound ive heard in the flagship line of speaker manufactures.

That said, if you like them, cool :)

install looks sexy, but fibreglass the tweeters into the A pillars, +1 for better stage height

Boston Z6's, yukk (no offense needed), one of the worst tweeters for a natural sound ive heard in the flagship line of speaker manufactures.

That said, if you like them, cool :)

install looks sexy, but fibreglass the tweeters into the A pillars, +1 for better stage height

NNOOOOOOOO!!! A pillars + boston tweeters = lots of headaches! With such a harsh tweeter, definately leave them down there, even in the kicks. :D

Rumour has it that all the SQ winning cars actually have their main tweeters in the kicks, and only a few had ambient tweeters in the a pillars as well....

Man I reckon each one of those crossovers+speakers adds at least a second to the quarter mile time of that car, they make the doors heavy as!

/spam

How are they running atm if you can run a seperate channel to the tweeter and woofer? Is the crossover splitting the power from the 4x100w amp they're running off at the moment then?

The xovers can accept 1 power input and filter both the woofer + tweeter or you can put 2 power inputs into it, 1 for the woofer and 1 for the tweeter to give you greater control.

The current Z6's have a rating of 150WRMS... So far you have 2x 100WRMS if you want to power your 6x9's. So yeah a smallish decent amp for the tweeters will be plenty. Have you seen a power graph to understand why more power is better in terms of distortion?

Boston Z6's, yukk (no offense needed), one of the worst tweeters for a natural sound ive heard in the flagship line of speaker manufactures.

That said, if you like them, cool :)

install looks sexy, but fibreglass the tweeters into the A pillars, +1 for better stage height

Well before i purchased them i did read many reviews and all i got was A+ from many many websites. Hardly heard any bad reviews. So why would i purchase some mid range focals when i can just buy the best of the best now and not need to upgrade again? And yeah, I love them. Fantastic speakers so far.

Mr C. I'm not all that great in terms of technical stuff to do with audio i sort of rely on what others tell me to understand it better, so yeah, havent really seen any graphs

Also i aint fibreglassing these ANYWHERE they are fine where they are! they are in a metal surround thingy too so would be way hard to glass somewhere. they arnt very harsh either.

So you reckon a small amp to power the tweeters, and leave the 4x100 powering the woofer.

eek - yeah i know i was going to get flamed for the whole good speaker crap amp thing. but hey i can always upgrade the amp later from a basic one at least. Im just really wrapped to have them. No $99 clarions these are! They are worth more then the market value of the car...

For the moment, until you can get a better amp to power the mids, yeah. A smallish ( 60-100WRMS x2 ) amp will do nicely.:D

For the moment, until you can get a better amp to power the mids, yeah. A smallish ( 60-100WRMS x2 ) amp will do nicely.:D

Thanks for the info. :D
If you see something i might like...hit me a PM.
I'll def keep and eye out for a cheap jaycar 2x150 though or something similar.

Any recommendations on where to purchase some noise popper cancellation thingys?

']Thanks for the info. :D


Any recommendations on where to purchase some noise popper cancellation thingys?

There not needed in 99.9% of cases. Most noise can be traced, and eliminated from the source.

There not needed in 99.9% of cases. Most noise can be traced, and eliminated from the source.

These are for my 2 parametric EQ's. Running double earths and they still do it. And its not a small pop either. Its an almighty bang. So they remain unconnected now until i can get some of those things (or are they like adjustable amp delay things i need?)

']These are for my 2 parametric EQ's. Running double earths and they still do it. And its not a small pop either. Its an almighty bang. So they remain unconnected now until i can get some of those things (or are they like adjustable amp delay things i need?)

Any reasons you are running two parra Eqs, ill assume one for each side ?

What brands are they ? Most of the experts I speak to stay away from most noise cancellers. A delay to turn them on "may" help solve the problem, depends on excatly where the problem lies, ie, are the PEQs making noise when they turn on, or, are the amps making the noise and the peq is making it stand out more (less likely, but still possible)

Any reasons you are running two parra Eqs, ill assume one for each side ?

What brands are they ? Most of the experts I speak to stay away from most noise cancellers. A delay to turn them on "may" help solve the problem, depends on excatly where the problem lies, ie, are the PEQs making noise when they turn on, or, are the amps making the noise and the peq is making it stand out more (less likely, but still possible)

One for the fronts, and the other for the subs/rear
One is a clarion, and one is a soundstream. they turn on fine. but when i turn the car off, all i get is BANG through all speakers and subs. pretty scary really.
I dont think its my amp as it doesnt do it normally. Only when the EQ's are in.

']One for the fronts, and the other for the subs/rear
One is a clarion, and one is a soundstream. they turn on fine. but when i turn the car off, all i get is BANG through all speakers and subs. pretty scary really.
I dont think its my amp as it doesnt do it normally. Only when the EQ's are in.
You can get a pop-stopper for your RCA's... Autobarn or Jaycar sell 'em.

Don't you have soundstream gear? :P
rainbow fronts now... they're not all that pretty, but they're certainly not ugly :P I keep all my speakers under stock grills anyway ;)

rainbow fronts now... they're not all that pretty, but they're certainly not ugly :P I keep all my speakers under stock grills anyway ;)

Ah stock grills....whats the point in havin' em' if no-one can see them! besides it gives me something to do putting them in all these stupid fangdangle pods

']Ah stock grills....whats the point in havin' em' if no-one can see them! besides it gives me something to do putting them in all these stupid fangdangle pods

I prefer it that way, car looks stock except for the headunit. Engine bay and boot are a different story but hey, it's not like I park with them open...:cool:

Dude there is no way I'm getting in your car now... I'll kick the midrange part off!!


']Ah stock grills....whats the point in havin' em' if no-one can see them! besides it gives me something to do putting them in all these stupid fangdangle pods
Well, anybody who looks into your car will see them, especially where you live I wouldn't be surprised if they were stolen.

STOCK FTW!!

Dude there is no way I'm getting in your car now... I'll kick the midrange part off!!


Well, anybody who looks into your car will see them, especially where you live I wouldn't be surprised if they were stolen.

STOCK FTW!!

Not through my tint + sunshade put up even in the nighttime :cool:
if you can see into my black interior through black tint I'll give you $5 or half my apple pie at maccas lol

']Not through my tint + sunshade put up even in the nighttime :cool:
if you can see into my black interior through black tint I'll give you $5 or half my apple pie at maccas lol
i just had a look and guess what i saw a set of boston z6's


so $5 dollars please

Dude, take half his apple pie, its a wayyy better deal

Ollie

Dude, take half his apple pie, its a wayyy better deal

Ollie
sounds to me like you beat me to it

I prefer it that way, car looks stock except for the headunit. Engine bay and boot are a different story but hey, it's not like I park with them open...:cool:
Yeah I've got four speakers behind my stock grilles... I like it that way too lol

That said I have a pair of twin 6" pods sitting in the shed ;)

']Ah stock grills....whats the point in havin' em' if no-one can see them! besides it gives me something to do putting them in all these stupid fangdangle pods
Although most car theifs wouldn't have the slightest idea on how much the rainbows are worth, I still prefer my car to look stock inside, the reason is that it's the sexiest looking stock interior produced by mitsubishi, why ruin my sexy tan doors with poxy black speaker covers?
Remembering rainbow doesn't go for showy, the speaker covers are plain black mesh with a small logo.

Although most car theifs wouldn't have the slightest idea on how much the rainbows are worth, I still prefer my car to look stock inside, the reason is that it's the sexiest looking stock interior produced by mitsubishi, why ruin my sexy tan doors with poxy black speaker covers?
Remembering rainbow doesn't go for showy, the speaker covers are plain black mesh with a small logo.

Dude I'm sure most people will agree, the best sounding gear is not always the prettiest. At the end of the day, you have to weigh up how long you listen to your speakers to how long you look at them...

I love Rainbow Profi Kicks!!!

Although most car theifs wouldn't have the slightest idea on how much the rainbows are worth, I still prefer my car to look stock inside, the reason is that it's the sexiest looking stock interior produced by mitsubishi, why ruin my sexy tan doors with poxy black speaker covers?
Remembering rainbow doesn't go for showy, the speaker covers are plain black mesh with a small logo.

Good point. Much more classier then TR Door skins, well alot more refined for sure!
Well i'll rephrase, If you have BLAND door skins i like showy installs:P

I have about $400 to blow.
I've been doing a bit of thinking and Looks like I'll just get some KS Door pods, and whack the crossovers in the boot, mix up the boot install a bit.
Over fiberglassing, no time, no money

Anyway, For $400,
Audison SRx2s
Treo 75.4
Any other suggestions?
I'm thinking of using 2 channels off my jaycar to power the tweeters, and a 2 channel amp to power the woofers.
Pretty sure Lucy's stezza was getting about 200WRMS to the fronts and boy was that sweet!!
I'm happy for now with the sub's (JBL GTO 12" DVC's x 2 w/jaycar 1000WRMS Mono) but its the front where These speakers should shine.
So yeah throw us up some suggestions or even if you've seen these amps cheap anywhere :)

']I have about $400 to blow.
I've been doing a bit of thinking and Looks like I'll just get some KS Door pods, and whack the crossovers in the boot, mix up the boot install a bit.
Over fiberglassing, no time, no money

Anyway, For $400,
Audison SRx2s
Treo 75.4
Any other suggestions?
I'm thinking of using 2 channels off my jaycar to power the tweeters, and a 2 channel amp to power the woofers.
Pretty sure Lucy's stezza was getting about 200WRMS to the fronts and boy was that sweet!!
I'm happy for now with the sub's (JBL GTO 12" DVC's x 2 w/jaycar 1000WRMS Mono) but its the front where These speakers should shine.
So yeah throw us up some suggestions or even if you've seen these amps cheap anywhere :)
How about you get your car moving before you piss money away on speakers :bowrofl:

God damnit Paul FOCUS!!!!!!!!

Thanks for props though :redface:

Sif you wouldn't get another set of Bostons with that :P

Sif you wouldn't get another set of Bostons with that :P
Do you know how much Bostons are worth Rhys :P

Planning ahead man planning ahead :P

Do you know how much Bostons are worth Rhys :P
Yes, but I know how cheap they "can" be too :P

on MEA atm theres an Alpine PDX 150.2 for sale for $300ono. bargain right there

How about you get your car moving before you piss money away on speakers :bowrofl:

God damnit Paul FOCUS!!!!!!!!
100% agreed

100% agreed
Thank you for that valuable and insightful outlook
Cheers woob I'll suss it out.
Any other comments/suggestions that arnt stupid please do go ahead

JBL PX600.2 perhaps? I think their 180 or 190w RMS per channel. I know someone with one of these powering splits in a commodore and it goes pretty well imo. Might be a tad more than $400 though, would have to check it out.

Do the bostons run at 4 or 2 ohms?

JBL PX600.2 perhaps? I think their 180 or 190w RMS per channel. I know someone with one of these powering splits in a commodore and it goes pretty well imo. Might be a tad more than $400 though, would have to check it out.

Do the bostons run at 4 or 2 ohms?
3 ohms to be exact lol
This is all I could find specs wise
http://www.dealtime.co.uk/xPF-Boston-Acoustics-Z6

Had the time to do a little retune on my system too Paul, sounds a lot better now :)

']I have about $400 to blow.
I've been doing a bit of thinking and Looks like I'll just get some KS Door pods, and whack the crossovers in the boot, mix up the boot install a bit.
Over fiberglassing, no time, no money

Anyway, For $400,


$400.

Hrm...I got me one of these.....just re-doing my install. No, before the audiophiles break out, its not an audison/treo/focal amp......(sorry guys)

Soundstream TRX2.640

# 2 Channel Tarantula Amplifier
# RMS Power: 2 x 210 Watts @ 4 ohm
# RMS Power: 2 x 320 Watts @ 2 ohm
# RMS Power: 1 x 640 @ 4 ohm Bridged
# THD: <0.05%
# Frequency response: 10Hz - 35Khz
# S/N Ratio: >105dB
# Damping factor: >300
# Input Sensitivity: 200Mv - 8 Volts
# Crossover slope: 12dB
# Low crossover frequency: 50Hz - 150Hz
# High crossover frequency: 50Hz - 500Hz
# Variable 18dB bass boost
# Phase control: 0 - 180
# Remote Bass Control included
# PWM mosfet power supply
# Tri-guard amplifier protection Bi-Linear Selectable, infinite variable crossovers inputs & outputs (HP/FULL/LP)
# Platinum RCA and Power inputs
# Tri-Mode capability
# Hi-Gloss piano black finish
# End-Caps for professional installation
# Dimensions: 11"(W) x 2.6"(H) x 22.8"(L)

Thats a big amp...
How much did you pay for it?
That'd be right up my alley...
Most of those specs are moon speak to me though :confused:

$400 delivered.

www.bitaudio.com.au

Bought a few things off this guy, comes within 2-3 days, packaged to the hilt....warranty cards, the lot.

The only drawback of this amp, apart from the sheer size, is how power hungry it is. Typical class A/B amp though.

It all depends on what you want....personally, a 2nd hand alpine class D amp would be nice, can fit it under a seat, and still have boot space.....

$400 delivered.

www.bitaudio.com.au

Bought a few things off this guy, comes within 2-3 days, packaged to the hilt....warranty cards, the lot.

The only drawback of this amp, apart from the sheer size, is how power hungry it is. Typical class A/B amp though.

It all depends on what you want....personally, a 2nd hand alpine class D amp would be nice, can fit it under a seat, and still have boot space.....
Space isnt an issue, Just going in the spare wheel well where the spare used to be.
What do you mean specifically about "power hungry" as in dont use while car is off for more then 20 minutes or else get the jump starter out type of thing?

']Space isnt an issue, Just going in the spare wheel well where the spare used to be.
What do you mean specifically about "power hungry" as in dont use while car is off for more then 20 minutes or else get the jump starter out type of thing?

I'll find out in roughly 3 weeks lol

Power hungry as in 75 amps current draw running flat out. Though you'de never use exactly that, but, its a lot. Enough to make lights dim, etc etc....a CAP could partly solve this issue.

I'll find out in roughly 3 weeks lol

Power hungry as in 75 amps current draw running flat out. Though you'de never use exactly that, but, its a lot. Enough to make lights dim, etc etc....a CAP could partly solve this issue.
Bloody hell thats alot...
What was the alpine class D amp you were talking about?
the power of the soundstream is what I'm after though, more then enough.

i just fitted an audison srx2s 180wrms x 2 (cea rated) but will be a fair bit more than $400 but maybe you should save a bit more, there running a set of hertz hsk 165's

heres the specs http://www.audison.eu/xml/products/pdf/audison_support_technical_sheets/audison_SRx2s_tech_EN.pdf

Alpine PDX2.150

http://www99.shopping.com/xPO-Alpine-Alpine-PDX-2-150-Car-Amplifier

That, or, stick with Jaycar stuff - nothing wrong with them. They just dont look as shiny.

']These are for my 2 parametric EQ's. Running double earths and they still do it. And its not a small pop either. Its an almighty bang. So they remain unconnected now until i can get some of those things (or are they like adjustable amp delay things i need?)

Out of curiousity, what soundstream EQ are you running?

As a sidenote - running two earths usually wont solve the issue. Electricity will earth through the shortest wire. (Yes you can run multiple earths....however, WHY?) IF earthing is an issue, find a shorter route, use a nice, thick (as thick as the EQ can take) cable. Sand back the earth spot, take a small bolt (not a self tapper!) a nut, and a split washer.

Out of curiousity, what soundstream EQ are you running?

As a sidenote - running two earths usually wont solve the issue. Electricity will earth through the shortest wire. (Yes you can run multiple earths....however, WHY?) IF earthing is an issue, find a shorter route, use a nice, thick (as thick as the EQ can take) cable. Sand back the earth spot, take a small bolt (not a self tapper!) a nut, and a split washer.

I got over them. It didnt work, used a 5000uf cap (which was a tad too big) and they still made a huge popping sound. Thinking about it now I think i hooked the cap up to the wrong wire cause that means the amps would of still of been on...
But yeah I really can't be bothered wiring them in again, Took them out for now. Yeah stupid hey, I can't remember whol told me to run a double earth but wtf was i thinking.

Fair enough, guess I'll find out when I use my EQ sometime down the track if I run into the same problems....

Fair enough, guess I'll find out when I use my EQ sometime down the track if I run into the same problems....
Please let me know if you do. when they were working (which was all the time, just pissed me off they popped so loud when they turned off) they were fantastic, Id like to keep them hooked up but yeah...
Thanks for the recommendations
If anyone else is going to recommend one, Please not over $400...:D
Spanks :D

']Please let me know if you do. when they were working (which was all the time, just pissed me off they popped so loud when they turned off) they were fantastic, Id like to keep them hooked up but yeah...
Just curious, couldn't you wire them up so the amps turned off straight away when you switch the ignition off, but run the eq on a timer of sorts for a few seconds? Can't pop if the speakers are off.

Just curious, couldn't you wire them up so the amps turned off straight away when you switch the ignition off, but run the eq on a timer of sorts for a few seconds? Can't pop if the speakers are off.

Thats where the problem is.

The EQ turns off before the amp.

Sends an electric 'pulse' through, amps send this onto the speakers.

You run the EQ off a relay, triggered by the H/U remote. This turns the EQ off at the same time amps are turned off.

For now I'll use my ub3r cool Single DIN slide out drinks holder and coin tray....God knows how we need more cupholders in the 2nd gen.
Worse comes to worse Ill still hook the EQ's up just mount them somewhere else.
A smaller cap would of probably solved it though

']For now I'll use my ub3r cool Single DIN slide out drinks holder and coin tray....God knows how we need more cupholders in the 2nd gen.
Worse comes to worse Ill still hook the EQ's up just mount them somewhere else.
A smaller cap would of probably solved it though

A Cap wont solve it unfortunately, doesnt create big enough delay.

A Cap wont solve it unfortunately, doesnt create big enough delay.
a 5000uf one certainly did, kept my amps on for like another minute.
I probably hooked them into the wrong wires but yeah

Ive found a Soundstream TRA560.2 2 channel amp for sale for under $250.
RMS Power (4 ohms) 140 wrms x 2 chan.
RMS Power (2 ohms) 280 wrms x 2 chan.
Bridged RMS Power (4ohms) 560 wrms x 1 chan.
Min. Impedance Unbridged 2 ohms
Min. Impedance Bridged 4 ohms
THD @ Rated RMS Power 0.02%
Amp Preamp Outputs Yes - 1 Pair
Built-in Crossover Yes - HP / LP
High-Pass Crossover 45 Hz - 6.8 kHz
Low-Pass Crossover 45 Hz - 4.6 kHz
Signal-to-Noise Ratio 115 dB
Bass Boost 0 - 12 dB
Fan Cooled Yes
Fuse Rating 60A x 1

Would this be worth it in the sense of, Yeah, get that now, you'll love it, or should i keep looking around for something better?

TUFFTR - mate, there's always something better in car audio lol

Get what you can afford. I personally never had an issue with soundstream gear. Getting to be a big fan of them.

TUFFTR - mate, there's always something better in car audio lol

Get what you can afford. I personally never had an issue with soundstream gear. Getting to be a big fan of them.
Oh I know that! Just asking.....because if the general word is, Save up for one of the others mentioned and be done with it, i'll just do that.

Dunno if this out of your price range or not, but it'd power your Bostons nicely, just found it now.
Rockford Fosgate T15KW (http://www.caraudiowarehouse.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=133_47_49_58&products_id=292)
500wRMS/4

Dunno if this out of your price range or not, but it'd power your Bostons nicely, just found it now.
Rockford Fosgate T15KW (http://www.caraudiowarehouse.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=133_47_49_58&products_id=292)
500wRMS/4
My birthdays next month????
Come on man....:rant:
Ok then, with that amp I posted, does anyone have anything bad about it to say?

Im biased.

I quite like the look of these amps. Got the next model up.

At 3ohm, the amp will make somewhere around 210wrms........more than enough to feed the bostons.

Every other spec looks pretty damned good too. They seem to be rather good build quality too....

Only downside is its massive......

Anyones thoughts on this?
Soundstream TRX2.640

2-Channel Tarantula series Amplifier
RMS Power @ 4-ohm: 210W x 2
RMS Power @ 2-ohm: 320W x 2
RMS Power @ 4-ohm Mono: 640W x 1
THD: 0.05%
Class A/B Topology
S/N ratio >105
Damping factor > 300
Input sensitivity 200mV - 8V
Crossover Slopes 12dB
Low Pass Filter (Hz) 50-150
High Pass Filter (Hz) 50-500
Bass Boost (60Hz fixed) 0-18 dB
Phaze (degree) 0-180
Remote control - included
Dimensions: 11"(W) x 2.6"(H) x 22.8" (L)

Im considering just buying this one, Seems to have the power I need.

And even this one?

Soundstream Picasso PCX2.700
2-Channel Piccaso series Amplifier
RMS Power @ 4-ohm: 220W x 2
RMS Power @ 2-ohm: 350W x 2
RMS Power @ 4-ohm Mono: 700W x 1
THD: 0.10%
Class A/B Topology
Freq. Response (Hz) 10-35k
S/N ratio >95
Damping factor > 200
Input sensitivity 200mV - 8V
Crossover Slopes 12dB
Low Pass Filter (Hz) 50-150
High Pass Filter (Hz) 50-500
Bass Boost (60Hz fixed) 0-18 dB
Phaze (degree) 0-180
Remote control - included
Dimensions: 10"(W) x 2.5"(H) x 24.1 " (L)

Who is telling you to buy soundstream dude?
There's so much more on offer, i went in to the soundstream spider trap, and although they're alright amps, the entry stuff is pretty.. well.. entry. it's not until you get to their top line do you find something decent for your bostons.

Take a look at rainbow amps :)

Who is telling you to buy soundstream dude?
There's so much more on offer, i went in to the soundstream spider trap, and although they're alright amps, the entry stuff is pretty.. well.. entry. it's not until you get to their top line do you find something decent for your bostons.

Take a look at rainbow amps :)

Advice noted.
Trying to find something for $400 or less for these will be hard but I think attainable
nah no-one told me to go the spider, but looking at the amps they seem to be good bang for buck...keyword, seem.

Hmmm what about:
DD C1a RRP$339 with 100WRMS x2
DD C2a RRP$449 with 200WRMS x2
Vibe Slick A2 RRP$359 with 100WRMS x2
Audiosystem F2-190 RRP$499 with 100WRMS x2
DLS CA23 RRP$489 with 100WRMS x2

All of the above are at 4ohm of course. Good clean power is gunna be much better than outright brute power.

Hmmm what about:
DD C1a RRP$339 with 100WRMS x2
DD C2a RRP$449 with 200WRMS x2
Vibe Slick A2 RRP$359 with 100WRMS x2
Audiosystem F2-190 RRP$499 with 100WRMS x2
DLS CA23 RRP$489 with 100WRMS x2

All of the above are at 4ohm of course. Good clean power is gunna be much better than outright brute power.

I could probably stretch the budget for the DD c2a...200WRMS x2 is sort of the power I'm looking at..
I dunno, Without being in a position right now to go and try one of these amps to audition them its going to be hard, i'll probably just bite the bullet and buy one this week...
I'll let ya know what i get


Also, since I'll be running the fronts from 2 amps, Do i use the RCA output from my 4x100 and join that to the input of the new amp?

Who is telling you to buy soundstream dude?
There's so much more on offer, i went in to the soundstream spider trap, and although they're alright amps, the entry stuff is pretty.. well.. entry. it's not until you get to their top line do you find something decent for your bostons.

Take a look at rainbow amps :)

This i'll bite at.

The tarantula isnt really entry level firstly.

Secondly - if you can point out what on that spec sheet is bad for that price ($400 delivered), that makes an audiable difference, I'de love to know. Btw - if you say anything along the lines of - well the THD is .05% and not .02% I'll laugh - there's no possible way you can tell the difference....

This i'll bite at.

The tarantula isnt really entry level firstly.

Secondly - if you can point out what on that spec sheet is bad for that price ($400 delivered), that makes an audiable difference, I'de love to know. Btw - if you say anything along the lines of - well the THD is .05% and not .02% I'll laugh - there's no possible way you can tell the difference....
Bite all you like, i currently own a Tarantula series amp, so I know what they sound like :)
Their reference range is fantastic, the Tarantula ones are good but there's a lot out on the market place also. I was just surprised to see Tuffy talking all about soundstream all of the sudden and wanted to make sure he hadn't been brainwashed into it :)

']Without being in a position right now to go and try one of these amps to audition them its going to be hard, i'll probably just bite the bullet and buy one this week...
I'll let ya know what i get

This I believe will lead you into some trouble.

To do so properly requires a double blind test - which, im yet to see done properly in any car audio place. Secondly, if both amps are turned to double blind standards (within 0.1db of each other) the chances of you picking up a difference are rather slim. I'll search for the article - its somewhere....



']Also, since I'll be running the fronts from 2 amps, Do i use the RCA output from my 4x100 and join that to the input of the new amp?

Thats one way, another is to buy a pair of split RCA's.

Thats one way, another is to buy a pair of split RCA's.

Ah indeed indeed.
TBH I'm generally liking the beefed up spec sheet of the picasso 2.700, It Should allow me to run the amp at 80%ish while giving me all the power i need for my splits, thus not overpowering the amp.
thanks for the recommendations etc on here aswell Mr.C

Purchased the soundstream PCX2.700

I asked so many people and didn't really get the response I was after, got recommended alot of 100Wx2 amps etc
this should suffice.
woopee

Welllllllllllll it came today and OMFG
Well to other people this may not seen big but to me this is HUGE!!!!
I thought the box was just bigger to protect it but hell that was the size of the amp!

I should of put the measurements into perspective when I purchased it but yeah its 24" long

To give you a comparison of how big it is, i lined up some of my favorite issues of my favorite mag along side it :P
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/PCX.jpg


CANNOT WAIT To get this baby in and pumping!!!! :dancin:

Nice amp! Looks beefy as!

Where's the Gemma Atkinson one? Still Lucy Pinder and Keeley Hazel are hot as!

Nice amp! Looks beefy as!

Where's the Gemma Atkinson one? Still Lucy Pinder and Keeley Hazel are hot as!
Pinders my favorite so she got to be in the photo :D

big engine, big wing, big amp...Tuffy, me thinks you is compensating...

lol

Jokes man, hopefully that'll sound MINT...is there an actual boot install this time or thrown in like mine? lol

big engine, big wing, big amp...Tuffy, me thinks you is compensating...

lol

Jokes man, hopefully that'll sound MINT...is there an actual boot install this time or thrown in like mine? lol

Boot install has been in planning for many weeks.
Will be a proper boot install man, just gotta save up the $$ for materials.
Will be done properly this time.

thats a nice rack.....i mean amp :D
whats are the specs of this thing???

thats a nice rack.....i mean amp :D
whats are the specs of this thing???
Just up the page
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=915634&postcount=87

I don't get it, how are two Zoo magazines gonna power your bostons? :confused: