I've had the driver's side tie-rod replaced 18months ago, I don't drive like a prat, and the wheels were aligned mid last year. So why am I still getting bad toe-in wear on the front tyres. Btw, the wheel pulls left about 2inches from centre.

Anyone else going nuts with this drama?

a DIY toe in adjustment

use this method after you have done any replacement to your front suspension
a cv boot , drive shaft, tie rod end , front shocks,hub bearings
This home adjustment will make do until you get into a wheel alignment professional

put the car on as flat and level concrete as possible
make sure the steering wheel is straight ahead
at all times the steering wheel must not move from the straight ahead position
then by any means you want
a straight edge, broom handle,marks of chalk on the concrete

you measure
the middle distance between the front face of the front tyres
across the car tyre to tyre
then measure the middle distance of the back face of the front tyre
(ie the back and front of the front tyres middle of the tyres tread)

you then readjust the tie rods on both sides of the car by undoing the locking nut and using a vice grip or stilson twist the tie rod only in or out till
the front measurement must be shorter than the rear of the front tyre
ususally no more than 10 mm difference
then retighten the locking nuts of the tie rod ends

you also need to inspect the lower ball joints

and lower control arm bushes

Thanks for the write-up!

Sounds like an appointment with the hoist on tuesday. :cry:

is toe in wear on the inside of the front tyres? At least thats where i had bad problems with wear on my last tyres. Was running at 36psi. was told to go to 40psi and the problem stopped occurring. Allowed me to run the tyres alot longer before having to replace.

Toe in will cause wear on the outside shoulders of the tyre, toe-out will cause wear on the inside shoulder of the tyre.

If your tyres are wearing on both sides a lot compared to the middle, you need to bump up your tyre pressures. Most people, especially with larger wheels, dont put enough pressure in. Even the factory sticker gives a pressure for comfort, and is not good for handling, grip, tyre wear and rolling resistance / fuel consumption.

If you have standard tyres, an extra 6 psi will do well usually. If you have something like 18 inch wheels, you should be looking at 36psi at least.

Don't forget uneven tyre wear can also be from incorrect camber.

Ollie

Outside shoulders are wearing badly. I run 40lb in my 17s.

My last set did this, but no worries with the new ones, so it was probably just the alignment in my case. 38psi.

Outside shoulders are wearing badly. I run 40lb in my 17s.

This could be because you corner hard. It doesnt mean that the alignment is bad (compared to factory settings) however the factory never really expected people to corner hard in a magna. Especially if you have suspension mods, get a custom wheel alignment done. They can wack on some appropriate settings for what they think will suit the customer.

The suspension place I went to did this, he said he put a little bit of negative camber on his wifes car, and the tyres wore a bit on the inside, he put MORE neg camber on his car, yet the outside of his tyres wore out. Reason being on how hard he corners.

Ollie

Toe in will cause wear on the outside shoulders of the tyre, toe-out will cause wear on the inside shoulder of the tyre.
If your tyres are wearing on both sides a lot compared to the middle, you need to bump up your tyre pressures. Most people, especially with larger wheels, dont put enough pressure in. Even the factory sticker gives a pressure for comfort, and is not good for handling, grip, tyre wear and rolling resistance / fuel consumption.

If you have standard tyres, an extra 6 psi will do well usually. If you have something like 18 inch wheels, you should be looking at 36psi at least.

Don't forget uneven tyre wear can also be from incorrect camber.

Ollie
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I think you'll find theres nothing wrong with your toe. toe does not cause your car to pull. if its pulling left I would suspect that the left wheel has excessive negative camber. this usually causes accelerated wear on the inside tread of the left tyre. also, if your car is lowered, this causes negative camber on both sides causing the insides of the tyre to chew out.

not sure how you can correct this, i dont believe there is camber adjustment on these cars. in any case, you'll need to have it on a wheel aligner to measure it.

how much are people paying for there camber pins? thats whats needed for the front.

Ive always run around the 38-40psi through my wheels and got many kms out of them (upwards of 45,000) They are only 15inch but im a miserable prick.

Just to let you know that if you toe is out, that then makes any camber settings you have incorrect as well, due to the nature of the suspension geometry. Technically lowing the car should increase wear on the inside of the tyres, but in my case, with no usable adjustment (camber pins) when i lowered the Rada i still had to replace the tyres due to excess wear on the outside of the wheel (some 35000kms later)

How doe the adjustment in the rear work? Ive never really looked long and hard enoug to see what can be done under there